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Traditional Catholic Faith => Anσnymσus Posts Allowed => Topic started by: Änσnymσus on September 15, 2020, 08:41:30 AM
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SSPX Sanford Hijacks October Rosary March
The SSPX priory in Sanford Florida has by a sleight of hand completely changed the purpose of the annual October Rosary March for the Consecration of Russia, the purpose for which has taken place all over the USA for decades, and has changed it to a Prolife march. That’s it, end of the annual October Rosary March for the Consecration of Russia which has taken place in Sanford for 20 years.
Here is the bulletin link: http://www.sspxflorida.com/sites/sspx/files/media/usa-p-orlando/pdf/sanford_bulletin_september_13th_2020.pdf (http://www.sspxflorida.com/sites/sspx/files/media/usa-p-orlando/pdf/sanford_bulletin_september_13th_2020.pdf)
Here is what it says in the calendar:
October 4th: Rosary/ Pro Life March at the Veteran’s Memorial at noon
This is how the Vatican II church changed everything.
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Did Fr. Scott Settimo and Fr. Sean Gerrity come from the SSPX seminary or did the come from outside the SSPX?
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1) Is this new pro-life March an exclusively STM event, or is it tied to a diocesan agenda?
2) Sanford has 8 priests??? How many faithful???
3) Fr. Gerrity was formed in Winona; not sure about Settimo.
PS: Is the foul mouthed toilet plunger guest priest from Central America still there?
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According to this thread, Fr. Settimo is a Novus Ordo priest living at and offering Mass at the SSPX Sanford Priory:
https://www.cathinfo.com/anonymous-posts-allowed/indult-mass-at-sanford-florida-sspx-chapel/msg668664/#msg668664
Before that, he was at the SSPX priory in Phoenix.
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According to this thread, Fr. Settimo is a Novus Ordo priest living at and offering Mass at the SSPX Sanford Priory:
https://www.cathinfo.com/anonymous-posts-allowed/indult-mass-at-sanford-florida-sspx-chapel/msg668664/#msg668664
Before that, he was at the SSPX priory in Phoenix.
And he wasn't conditionally ordained? So if the faithful go to receive Holy Communion at Sanford, they might be faced with doubtful Sacraments (if they hold the NO Rite of Ordination to be doubtful).
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And he wasn't conditionally ordained? So if the faithful go to receive Holy Communion at Sanford, they might be faced with doubtful Sacraments (if they hold the NO Rite of Ordination to be doubtful).
No idea whether he was conditionally ordained or not.
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The October marches originated with Fr. Gruner, and other Fatima groups. Did the SSPX as a USA corporate policy do any marches for Fatima or was it just the SSPX faithful individually at each chapel undertake it themselves?
I've been told that the French SSPX do not do the Leonine Prayers and have not since like 1962, when Paul VI suppressed the prayers. France has always had a big communist problem (that is why they were overrun so quickly by the Germans in WWII, it was a divided country). It looks like the SSPX does not really believe in Fatima and the conversion of Russia.
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Derailing the October Fatima Public Rosary* is significant.
Wasn't this same SSPX Priory a key participant in hijacking the Quito Ecuador Feast Day procession of Our Lady of Good Success ?
Fr. Purdy and Jade Liboro working on behalf of the SSPX, spearheaded that campaign.
* Actually, Our Lady requested a public Rosary procession.
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* Actually, Our Lady requested a public Rosary procession.
That makes it even worse, makes the SSPX cowards for changing the faithful’s noble intentions away from what Our Lady requested.
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Well, it IS interesting that they would cancel or morph the consecration of Russia procession into a pro-life march. I mean, it’s not like they couldn’t have done both on different dates, but instead chose to suppress the one altogether by replacing it with one intended for another purpose.
That’s what makes it curious to me.
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I've been told that the French SSPX do not do the Leonine Prayers and have not since like 1962, when Paul VI suppressed the prayers.
This makes no sense to me, as the SSPX did not even exist in 1962.
It looks like the SSPX does not really believe in Fatima and the conversion of Russia.
They certainly used to. I know I've heard Bp. Fellay say things that indicate he doesn't believe it, at least not in the way most Catholics do. As for what all of the XSPX believes about it these days, it's probably a mixed bag among their priests, and perhaps it is one of the topics they're not supposed to talk publicly about anymore. ???
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I have heard more from SSPX priests about Our Lady of Good Success than Fatima. Though I have never heard one of them say he did not believe in Fatima, though I remember Bp. Tissier in an interview refusing to speak about Fatima, dismissing it as a "private revelation." But I think the focus on Good Success in my experience was because we had Fr. Purdy for a couple of years and Fr. Sulzen and theyu both go to Quito for pilgrimages and Purdy is the SSPX point man of that operation. Fatima has not come up nearly as much from our SSPX priests as it does in Catholic forums online where Fatima is more important than the beheading of St. John the Baptist.
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Now it all makes sense why the Sanford prior, a Frenchmen, replaced the Leonine Prayers with a weather blessing prayer. Before there was a priory, the Sanford chapel faithful always did the Leonine Prayers, and also did the Weather Blessing after all the Low Masses. After the prior arrived, one day he just decided to give priority to the weather blessing during the hurricane season and the Leonine Prayers were no longer said, unless, sometimes there was a second low mass and even then the Weather Blessing was sometimes said twice and no Leonine prayers were said. The hurricane season lasts from June1 to November 30th. The Leonine prayers are said the rest of the year.
It looks to me like that’s another indicator that the French do not really believe in the consecration of Russia, for if they did, they would at the very least give priority to the Leonine Prayers. What they really should have done is what the faithful always did during the hurricane season, they did both.
After all, what is more important a weather prayer or a prayer for the conversion of Russia (Defeat of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr)?
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Let me see:
- The annual October Rosary March for the Consecration of Russia co-opted into a Pro-Life march
- A Novus Ordo priest mixed in with SSPX priests, exposing the faithful to doubtful Sacraments
- Hijacking the Quito Ecuador Feast Day procession of Our Lady of Good Success
- The Leonine prayers replaced by a weather blessing
Sounds like any parish in the USA in 1965 after being taken over by a “hip modern young prior”.
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In October, we would follow the guidelines of TFP who would supply us with a banner.
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In October, we would follow the guidelines of TFP who would supply us with a banner.
It was never a prolife Rosary. Pro life was included along with banner stating God’s marriage is man plus woman.
Also, my former Pastor did the Leonine prayers and a weather prayer.
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And he wasn't conditionally ordained? So if the faithful go to receive Holy Communion at Sanford, they might be faced with doubtful Sacraments (if they hold the NO Rite of Ordination to be doubtful).
If an older priest ordained in the New Rite by a bishop consecrated in the Catholic Rite, would that not be acceptable?
I would hope that is the case. I may not be as wise as them, but the New Rite consecration seems ambiguous. It was after all a portion of an Oriental Rite, wholly valid in context, but ripped out of context by Mgsr Bugnini VC. In the case of priests less is more. Poorly formed (many in the sixties even with the old Rite were that and are now raging Modernists) priests do extraordinary damage.
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From a "Bird's Eye View", New order clergy will speak and act Pro-life BUT that is their only smoke screen to look good and to be accepted. The New Order is not pro-life though. It is just a "dressing up of the store window" syndrome.
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I’ve been told that the SSPX Seminary under Fr. Leroux has been teaching the seminarians that Fatima is just a private revelation. That is what all Novus Ordo non-believers say, “just a private revelation”.
Saying it is just a private revelation is code for saying it is not of any importance, that one can take it or leave it, like Akita, or Divine Mercy “revelations” to Sr. Faustina, or Medjugorje, doubtful revelations.
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I’ve been told that the SSPX Seminary under Fr. Leroux has been teaching the seminarians that Fatima is just a private revelation. That is what all Novus Ordo non-believers say, “just a private revelation”.
Saying it is just a private revelation is code for saying it is not of any importance, that one can take it or leave it, like Akita, or Divine Mercy “revelations” to Sr. Faustina, or Medjugorje, doubtful revelations.
Um, this is true. Fatima is just a private revelation. One can take it or leave it. Saying it is a private revelation is not the same as saying it is a false revelation, like the other "apparitions" you mentioned. Those are outright false. But Fatima is not a public revelation, as those ceased with the death of St. John the Apostle. No revelations from heaven after that point are obligatory for Catholics to accept.
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Um, this is true. Fatima is just a private revelation. One can take it or leave it. Saying it is a private revelation is not the same as saying it is a false revelation, like the other "apparitions" you mentioned. Those are outright false. But Fatima is not a public revelation, as those ceased with the death of St. John the Apostle. No revelations from heaven after that point are obligatory for Catholics to accept.
What you say is technically true, however, the SSPX should not downplay Fatima or any true revelation by using the adjective "just".
Fatima is not "just" a private relation but an extremely important private and prophetic revelation. If Our Lady told me during WWI that a worse war will break out during a the time of Pius XI (yet the Pope is Benedict XIV), and then several years later a Pope named Pius XI shows up and sure enough another World War comes, then something in me will say "I think I better listen and do what She tells us".