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Re: SSPX Fake Priests
« Reply #225 on: August 07, 2025, 12:54:29 PM »
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  • Wasn’t Fr. Zigrang conditionally ordained or approved by Archbishop LeFebvre?  Either way, I’d not hesitate to approach him. In the late 1980’s and early 1990’s, there were still a number of active priests ordained in the pre-V2 rite, in which case, conditional ordination was not necessary. Today, there are very few such priests still living and active. Maybe Fr. Carley?

    Seraphina, Lad already had Zigrang (name and photo) on the Fake Priests website. So, I assume he had sufficient information to do that. 

    Here is a note about him from the Catholiccandle.org website:

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    So-called “Father” Stephen Zigrang
    Catholic Candle lacks specific information about so-called “Father” Zigrang. However, Catholic
    Candle correspondents have told us that he is a conciliar “ordinand” from the Houston/Galvaston
    diocese. In January 2007, he was at the SSPX “House of Studies”. In May 2014, he was asked if
    he was conditionally ordained since he came to tradition, and he simply answered “no”.

    But if you could contact him and clear up the confusion, that would be great.

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    Re: SSPX Fake Priests
    « Reply #226 on: August 07, 2025, 08:08:44 PM »
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  • Seraphina, Lad already had Zigrang (name and photo) on the Fake Priests website. So, I assume he had sufficient information to do that.

    Here is a note about him from the Catholiccandle.org website:

    But if you could contact him and clear up the confusion, that would be great.
    Sorry, I must have been thinking of somebody else. The priest I had in mind could not have been in the House of Studies in 2007. He isn’t from the US and the age is entirely wrong. Even the n.o. doesn’t “ordain” grammar school boys!  


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    Re: SSPX Fake Priests
    « Reply #227 on: August 08, 2025, 07:39:19 AM »
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  • Yes, so those on the list were put together by a combination of Catholic Candle postings (adding pictures in some cases) as well as various reports and tips that have been posted here or else sent to me by private message.

    While it's possible that the statuses of some have been reported incorrectly or else their situation had been remediated after some "investigation", the SSPX have put these priests and themselves due to their insistence that the NO Rites are valid combined with the fact that they keep the ordination statuses of various "priests" a closely-guarded secret that evidently the faithful do not "need to know", since, as Fr. Paul Robinson priest-splained to us, we are to simply trust their judgment.

    I'd like nothing more than to hear that such-and-such a priest has been conditionally ordained and for the list to ultimately go empty.  In fact, the goal of this site is precisely to render itself defunct and obsolete.

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    Lefebvre ordained Cottard in the new rite?
    « Reply #228 on: August 09, 2025, 10:36:44 PM »
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  • Open letter to Father Benoît de Jorna […] It is so true that Archbishop Lefebvre himself conferred ordination in Fontgombault - under the constraint of the master of ceremonies of the abbey - Father Jean-Yves Cottard, according to the new rite.
    Is this true?

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    Re: Lefebvre ordained Cottard in the new rite?
    « Reply #229 on: August 09, 2025, 11:27:14 PM »
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  • Is this true?
    This refers to a French video because it has a TimeStamp...I'll look Sunday...

    https://www.leforumcatholique.org/message.php?num=899184

    Goog le translate  may contain errors.

    "...I was referring to the claim made by the monks of the Cistercian Abbey of Hauterive, reported by Abbot Fabrice Loiseau (see HERE at 27:56), that Archbishop Lefebvre had concelebrated the NOM with the community in the early 1970s.

    The ordination celebrated at Fontgombault Abbey by Archbishop Lefebvre using the new ordination rite was that of Abbot Cottard.

    These facts are not insignificant when one considers the prelate's subsequent statements on the liturgical question.

    If Archbishop L. denied or forgot these facts (as was the case with his signature to Dignitatis Humanae—according to Archbishop Tissier—), it would be the word of one against that of dozens of monks..."


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    The following sentence should be after the 2023 quote: "...He only then proceeded to give the supplements lacking to the ceremony..."


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    Re: Lefebvre ordained Cottard in the new rite?
    « Reply #230 on: Yesterday at 08:40:37 PM »
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  • This refers to a French video because it has a TimeStamp...I'll look Sunday...

    https://www.leforumcatholique.org/message.php?num=899184



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    I just now posted, in "Members Only Board", a short translation of the interview on YouTube that deals with + Lefebvre. Title: Fr. Fabrice Loiseau.