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Traditional Catholic Faith => Anσnymσus Posts Allowed => Topic started by: Aragon on April 02, 2012, 07:11:36 AM
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The medical mission obviously was needed because over 1000 people made use of it. Furthermore it doesn't matter that no one converted - that wasn't the primary aim of the medical mission. But, at any rate, if you actually look at their site there are pictures of priests hearing confessions and teaching catechism to the people who come to the mission.
I'm not sure what she means by convert, too. The vast majority of Fillipinos are Roman Catholics.
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Atleast a certain District Superior is no longer in Ireland. The SSPX had St Thomas Aquinas School school in Dublin.It's long gone.Fr Couture was a disaster to be honest
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There is a small homeschool network among families in Ireland but older children go to St Michael's in England.Some families send their children to local secondary school. I support homeschooling but it's a pity there is no school like St Michael's in Ireland.
Fr Angles was also a very negative District Superior. The current District Superior Fr Morgan is a good priest. Very much a social teachings, Catholic action type of cleric.
It was most strange a few years ago when finance and property was made available to Fr Angles, he said it wasn't time to expand the apostolate in Ireland. Strange. Sadly, the Society have lost Mass centre's in Ireland and not ever increased since they arrived in Ireland.
A positive though is many of the Irish chapels are very distributist and a jewel in the crown for the SSPX. Chapels in rural areas are best and a good model to follow.
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It would be wrong to suggest there is no "success story" but serious mistakes were made. A positive for Ireland is Irish priests have finally being stationed here. Ireland was sort of a "Craggy Island" for the Society. A positive in districts are of course vocations, priests and religious sisters, good marriages, a valid mass, family and many children.
An Irish girl regularly goes to these medical missions in The Philippines
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In any event, what on earth is wrong with a medical mission? Has the OP ever heard of the Corporal Works of Mercy?
You don't understand the nature of missions if you think that preaching the Catechism is the sole means (or even the best) to bring people to Christ.
I don't believe the OP is objecting to carrying out the corporal works of Mercy but the post on the Maurice Pinay blog is good. This piece is pertinent.He/she who posted is on to something here.
I find that Bp. Fellay who has long kept the Asian district superior in place for far too long closes his eyes to many many abuses within the SSPX or he has set up the system that way & unchecked. He has wasted so much time caught up in Rome's net instead of focusing on his REAL JOB: being a shepherd to the souls entrusted to him. Recently he has visited the Philippines and last year his assistant visited Asia. They visit but overlook the pathetic situation of MOST of the Mass centers & do NOTHING to make the missions successful apostolates
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It would be wrong to suggest there is no "success story" but serious mistakes were made. A positive for Ireland is Irish priests have finally being stationed here. Ireland was sort of a "Craggy Island" for the Society. A positive in districts are of course vocations, priests and religious sisters, good marriages, a valid mass, family and many children.
An Irish girl regularly goes to these medical missions in The Philippines
Any idea how many people go to the main SSPX churches in Ireland? Also are there many young adults/families there? One problem with the local SSPX chapel in my city is that the majority of the attendees are retired. Of course there's nothing wrong with the elderly, and they do so much good for the chapel, but it's nice to have young people thrown in too.
My understanding is that the SSPX congregation in London is rather small compared to France or America but has a very active group of young Catholics. Is it similar in Ireland?
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Atleast a certain District Superior is no longer in Ireland. The SSPX had St Thomas Aquinas School school in Dublin.It's long gone.Fr Couture was a disaster to be honest
And he has been a 15 year old ( and counting) disaster in Asia as well! But where to post him? We had heard that he cleaned out the coffers and the pockets of the faithful installing stained glass windows at the church near Dublin. Totally un-necessary considering the fledgling state of the mission there. Well he has now installed an expensive, but not that good looking, altar in Singapore.
He has beaten to pulp a phrase perhaps common in Ireland, which he still visits!:
God loves a cheerful giver.
Sure!
Have money (other people's) will travel
or as they say in Asia:
Whose father what goes!
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It's fair I add the disclaimer when replying. I already had a scenario with Clare from Ignis Ardens who somehow thought I was under the obedience of Fr Morgan. It's different if one is under obedience ie a cleric or third order member.
I personally believe Fr Couture was a disaster for Ireland.
The point really is criticism is valid and legitimate. The SSPX are not beyond criticism and have made terrible mistakes.Many clerics have also been remarkably arrogant.
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It would be wrong to suggest there is no "success story" but serious mistakes were made. A positive for Ireland is Irish priests have finally being stationed here. Ireland was sort of a "Craggy Island" for the Society. A positive in districts are of course vocations, priests and religious sisters, good marriages, a valid mass, family and many children.
An Irish girl regularly goes to these medical missions in The Philippines
Any idea how many people go to the main SSPX churches in Ireland? Also are there many young adults/families there? One problem with the local SSPX chapel in my city is that the majority of the attendees are retired. Of course there's nothing wrong with the elderly, and they do so much good for the chapel, but it's nice to have young people thrown in too.
My understanding is that the SSPX congregation in London is rather small compared to France or America but has a very active group of young Catholics. Is it similar in Ireland?
Is there an active League Kingship Christ chapter for Catholic men or possibility of a youth group with emphasis on the social teachings/Catholic Action?
In Ireland there is a good mix of young and old. The SSPX in London is very active. Many of their faithful recently picketed an abortuary. They have several groups including one for Catholic ladies.
In Ireland the majority are social teaching/distributist types. A 'back to the land advocate' would love Ireland.Ruralism is our future.Catholic Action is strong in Ireland.Resisting, fighting types.Religion goes hand in hand with politics. None of this pray and be good quietist types. Your faith without works and action is dead.
Even in London, families are leaving to return to the land, and live in a rural area.
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I add the Cath Info disclaimer. There is a danger of misunderstanding on internet fora. I don't financially support the SSPX since the Krahgate events. I sent an email and explained to the District Superior why in principle, I don't give his organisation any money.The District Superior is a decent cleric and hopefully he understands. I explained any ways. I did add the Cath Info disclaimer lest you think I am suggesting people not financially contribute. I don't nor can I in conscience do so. I have my principles.
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Even in London, families are leaving to return to the land, and live in a rural area.
London is in a bad way. A multi-racial,multi cultural place where locals are a minority in some parts. I would be sorry to see London go but reality is eventually the SSPX will have to sell their London chapel. It's in an area with blacks and asians. Locals avoid it. I personally believe a day is coming soon when the SSPX will have to sell up or either get louder in calling for the repatriation of the immigrants. London isn't 'home'. They are 'English' when it comes to the NHS and benefits but that is about it.
What is happening in England would be called genocide if happening in other countries. It's dire. It's deliberate. The only way to get London back is by street by street. A rights for whites movement. It's crazy over there. I was on a bus a few months ago there, and it was very disturbing. It's tragic.
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Even in London, families are leaving to return to the land, and live in a rural area.
London is in a bad way. A multi-racial,multi cultural place where locals are a minority in some parts. I would be sorry to see London go but reality is eventually the SSPX will have to sell their London chapel. It's in an area with blacks and asians. Locals avoid it. I personally believe a day is coming soon when the SSPX will have to sell up or either get louder in calling for the repatriation of the immigrants. London isn't 'home'. They are 'English' when it comes to the NHS and benefits but that is about it.
What is happening in England would be called genocide if happening in other countries. It's dire. It's deliberate. The only way to get London back is by street by street. A rights for whites movement. It's crazy over there. I was on a bus a few months ago there, and it was very disturbing. It's tragic.
I see the comment has I had one 'dislike'. I don't mind. London is still dire and disliking a comment doesn't resolve the problems of the multi-racial society that is not in interests of local people or the invaders.
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Even in London, families are leaving to return to the land, and live in a rural area.
London is in a bad way. A multi-racial,multi cultural place where locals are a minority in some parts. I would be sorry to see London go but reality is eventually the SSPX will have to sell their London chapel. It's in an area with blacks and asians. Locals avoid it. I personally believe a day is coming soon when the SSPX will have to sell up or either get louder in calling for the repatriation of the immigrants. London isn't 'home'. They are 'English' when it comes to the NHS and benefits but that is about it.
What is happening in England would be called genocide if happening in other countries. It's dire. It's deliberate. The only way to get London back is by street by street. A rights for whites movement. It's crazy over there. I was on a bus a few months ago there, and it was very disturbing. It's tragic.
I see the comment has I had one 'dislike'. I don't mind. London is still dire and disliking a comment doesn't resolve the problems of the multi-racial society that is not in interests of local people or the invaders.
I gladly support the Irish in London returning home.
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I gladly support the Irish in London returning home.
That would involve breaking up a lot of families!
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Even in London, families are leaving to return to the land, and live in a rural area.
London is in a bad way. A multi-racial,multi cultural place where locals are a minority in some parts. I would be sorry to see London go but reality is eventually the SSPX will have to sell their London chapel. It's in an area with blacks and asians. Locals avoid it. I personally believe a day is coming soon when the SSPX will have to sell up or either get louder in calling for the repatriation of the immigrants. London isn't 'home'. They are 'English' when it comes to the NHS and benefits but that is about it.
What is happening in England would be called genocide if happening in other countries. It's dire. It's deliberate. The only way to get London back is by street by street. A rights for whites movement. It's crazy over there. I was on a bus a few months ago there, and it was very disturbing. It's tragic.
Dont forget to include in that "loud call for repatriation" the Asian and African SSPX priests and religious who may be based in Britain.
But seriously. You seem to have little awareness of World history and population movements over the centuries. Even at Pentecost there were all sorts of people in Jerusalem. And haven't you Irish parked yourselves in every corner of the world over the years?
But seriously. You seem to have little awareness of World history and population movements over the centuries.
This is your opinion. There is every reality the SSPX chapel in London will be sold. It's already attended by blacks.Far too many. They are hardly local or English as English people are white. Black people can never be English except when it comes to the health service and benefits. The English being a white race is common sense.No wonder white people are leaving the city.They are being colonised and driven out. Some go by choice though. Other white people live in total fear in parts of London. Locals are a minority in some parts so a rights for whites campaign is no exaggeration. The politicians who have failed the working man of England don't live in these areas. Even Billy Bragg doesn't. A great supporter of multi culti Britain doesn't live among the blacks.
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And haven't you Irish parked yourselves in every corner of the world over the years?
I did address this point earlier and would call for the Irish diaspora to return home. Financial help will assist the humane repatriation of the blacks, west indies and others from Britain. Their families would return home also. Repatriation would be voluntary but it might need to be compulsory. It would be on a case by case basis but the indigenous folk of Britain have a right to their homeland. These are the English,Scots, Welsh, Irish and Ulster people.
In Ireland for example Brazilians have been high on the list for voluntary repatriation back to their place of origin.
True diversity means people in their own country.Common sense.
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Dont forget to include in that "loud call for repatriation" the Asian and African SSPX priests and religious who may be based in Britain.
No sincere Asian or African would regard Britain as 'home' and should only be delighted to be back in the home place. There is no place like home. Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin. The well known Irish proverb.
Also "A country without a language, a country without a soul"
I also fail to see the need for Asian or African clerics in Britain.
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There is every reality the SSPX chapel in London will be sold. It's already attended by blacks.Far too many.
This is a sickening attitude for a Catholic to hold.
Other white people live in total fear in parts of London.
I doubt they're afraid of the black people who attend Society chapels.
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There is every reality the SSPX chapel in London will be sold. It's already attended by blacks.Far too many.
No sincere Asian or African would regard Britain as 'home' ...
A Catholic should feel at home within the Mystical Body of Christ.
Obsession with people's racial identity is a case of desiring to see one's own image in others, while utterly disregarding the Image of Christ in them. Self-worship, really.
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There is every reality the SSPX chapel in London will be sold. It's already attended by blacks.Far too many.
This is a sickening attitude for a Catholic to hold.
Other white people live in total fear in parts of London.
I doubt they're afraid of the black people who attend Society chapels.
It might appear "sickening" but I assume you know which context I am keeping in mind. I think it's great the chapel gets visitors from other countries but England is not home to these immigrants. They will have to ask themselves at some point is it not time to head home. The chapels in their own Districts need them. Emigrating to a foreign country is an easy way out and what the multi- culti supporters want. The uprooting of people and destruction of the Nations. It's one thing to visit England for a holiday but to uproot and live there is an easy option.
In Ireland, the government lament mass emigration of the Irish but in reality support it. It's not very patriotic of these immigrants to remain in England. They should return to their fatherland and fight for it.
As for the chapel in London closing, many people I have spoken to agree with me. It would be tragic if it did close but the immigrant population in the area are causing problems.
I realise the SSPX are a priestly society but at the same time can't prop up the multi racial society. A rotten system is crumbling anyways and a new social order of the 100 flags awaits us.We are living in a very revolutionary age now.
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A Catholic should feel at home within the Mystical Body of Christ.
I didn't dispute this and never suggested the blacks or asians should feel unwelcome.We have everything in common with our fellow Catholics. We do have the right to our homeland though. I was speaking to a woman who is in the Socialist Workers Party recently. Them crowd don't believe in a Nation at all. She challenged me when I was giving out leaflets against abortion.They aren't for Ireland for the Irish.
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I must conclude the discussion as what more can you say. Points are often misinterpreted any ways. I won't be replying to subsequent posts as it goes over old ground. Rather boring.
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There is every reality the SSPX chapel in London will be sold. It's already attended by blacks.Far too many.
No sincere Asian or African would regard Britain as 'home' ...
A Catholic should feel at home within the Mystical Body of Christ.
Obsession with people's racial identity is a case of desiring to see one's own image in others, while utterly disregarding the Image of Christ in them. Self-worship, really.
Sorry you don't stand for your people. Never should an English person apologise for being white and English. The multi culti types are laughing at likes of you, Clare. You must be living in an ivory tower if you don't realise what the blacks think of whites.
Even in the Emma West video, a black women has the cheek to tell her to get off the tram. I disagree with the swearing but who are the blacks to tell the English what to do in their own country. Repatriate them. Send them home.
Clare is in fantasy world
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There is every reality the SSPX chapel in London will be sold. It's already attended by blacks.Far too many.
No sincere Asian or African would regard Britain as 'home' ...
A Catholic should feel at home within the Mystical Body of Christ.
Obsession with people's racial identity is a case of desiring to see one's own image in others, while utterly disregarding the Image of Christ in them. Self-worship, really.
Sorry you don't stand for your people. Never should an English person apologise for being white and English. The multi culti types are laughing at likes of you, Clare. You must be living in an ivory tower if you don't realise what the blacks think of whites.
Even in the Emma West video, a black women has the cheek to tell her to get off the tram. I disagree with the swearing but who are the blacks to tell the English what to do in their own country. Repatriate them. Send them home.
Clare is in fantasy world
You're being absolutely ridiculous. I have fair hair, blue eyes, and white skin, my ancestry is completely anglo-saxon, but I can't understand where you're coming from. What's wrong with black people going to the SSPX chapel? That's great! What's wrong with Asian and African priests working in Britain? The SSPX is a missionary order which means the priests are moved all over the world.
I would rather have my country full of black and Asian Catholics than white secularists.
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Sorry you don't stand for your people.
My people?
Therefore, whilst we have time, let us work good to all men, but especially to those who are of the household of the faith. ~St Paul to the Galatians (6:10).
Never should an English person apologise for being white and English.
I wasn't.
You must be living in an ivory tower if you don't realise what the blacks think of whites.
Who cares what "they" think? We've just had Lent. A period for examining our own consciences, not other people's.
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There is every reality the SSPX chapel in London will be sold. It's already attended by blacks.Far too many.
No sincere Asian or African would regard Britain as 'home' ...
A Catholic should feel at home within the Mystical Body of Christ.
Obsession with people's racial identity is a case of desiring to see one's own image in others, while utterly disregarding the Image of Christ in them. Self-worship, really.
Sorry you don't stand for your people. Never should an English person apologise for being white and English. The multi culti types are laughing at likes of you, Clare. You must be living in an ivory tower if you don't realise what the blacks think of whites.
Even in the Emma West video, a black women has the cheek to tell her to get off the tram. I disagree with the swearing but who are the blacks to tell the English what to do in their own country. Repatriate them. Send them home.
Clare is in fantasy world
You're being absolutely ridiculous. I have fair hair, blue eyes, and white skin, my ancestry is completely anglo-saxon, but I can't understand where you're coming from. What's wrong with black people going to the SSPX chapel? That's great! What's wrong with Asian and African priests working in Britain? The SSPX is a missionary order which means the priests are moved all over the world.
I would rather have my country full of black and Asian Catholics than white secularists.
You have misinterpreted many of my comments. It's not necessary for the thread to go off topic so feel free to send me a PM to discuss further.
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You must be living in an ivory tower if you don't realise what the blacks think of whites.
Who cares what "they" think? We've just had Lent. A period for examining our own consciences, not other people's.
Exactly. Lent. Think about it.