Author Topic: SSPX ASIA DISTRICT (Read 3211 times)

Aragon · « **on:** April 02, 2012, 07:11:36 AM »

The medical mission obviously was needed because over 1000 people made use of it. Furthermore it doesn't matter that no one converted - that wasn't the primary aim of the medical mission. But, at any rate, if you actually look at their site there are pictures of priests hearing confessions and teaching catechism to the people who come to the mission.

I'm not sure what she means by convert, too. The vast majority of Fillipinos are Roman Catholics.

John Grace · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2012, 10:46:23 AM »

Atleast a certain District Superior is no longer in Ireland. The SSPX had St Thomas Aquinas School school in Dublin.It's long gone.Fr Couture was a disaster to be honest

John Grace · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2012, 10:58:49 AM »

There is a small homeschool network among families in Ireland but older children go to St Michael's in England.Some families send their children to local secondary school. I support homeschooling but it's a pity there is no school like St Michael's in Ireland.

Fr Angles was also a very negative District Superior. The current District Superior Fr Morgan is a good priest. Very much a social teachings, Catholic action type of cleric.

It was most strange a few years ago when finance and property was made available to Fr Angles, he said it wasn't time to expand the apostolate in Ireland. Strange. Sadly, the Society have lost Mass centre's in Ireland and not ever increased since they arrived in Ireland.

A positive though is many of the Irish chapels are very distributist and a Jєωel in the crown for the SSPX. Chapels in rural areas are best and a good model to follow.

John Grace · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2012, 11:16:05 AM »

It would be wrong to suggest there is no "success story" but serious mistakes were made. A positive for Ireland is Irish priests have finally being stationed here. Ireland was sort of a "Craggy Island" for the Society. A positive in districts are of course vocations, priests and religious sisters, good marriages, a valid mass, family and many children.

An Irish girl regularly goes to these medical missions in The Philippines

John Grace · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2012, 11:26:37 AM »

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In any event, what on earth is wrong with a medical mission? Has the OP ever heard of the Corporal Works of Mercy?

You don't understand the nature of missions if you think that preaching the Catechism is the sole means (or even the best) to bring people to Christ.

I don't believe the OP is objecting to carrying out the corporal works of Mercy but the post on the Maurice Pinay blog is good. This piece is pertinent.He/she who posted is on to something here.

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I find that Bp. Fellay who has long kept the Asian district superior in place for far too long closes his eyes to many many abuses within the SSPX or he has set up the system that way & unchecked. He has wasted so much time caught up in Rome's net instead of focusing on his REAL JOB: being a shepherd to the souls entrusted to him. Recently he has visited the Philippines and last year his assistant visited Asia. They visit but overlook the pathetic situation of MOST of the Mass centers & do NOTHING to make the missions successful apostolates

Aragon · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2012, 06:56:52 AM »

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It would be wrong to suggest there is no "success story" but serious mistakes were made. A positive for Ireland is Irish priests have finally being stationed here. Ireland was sort of a "Craggy Island" for the Society. A positive in districts are of course vocations, priests and religious sisters, good marriages, a valid mass, family and many children.

An Irish girl regularly goes to these medical missions in The Philippines

Any idea how many people go to the main SSPX churches in Ireland? Also are there many young adults/families there? One problem with the local SSPX chapel in my city is that the majority of the attendees are retired. Of course there's nothing wrong with the elderly, and they do so much good for the chapel, but it's nice to have young people thrown in too.

My understanding is that the SSPX congregation in London is rather small compared to France or America but has a very active group of young Catholics. Is it similar in Ireland?

John Grace · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2012, 02:43:53 PM »

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Atleast a certain District Superior is no longer in Ireland. The SSPX had St Thomas Aquinas School school in Dublin.It's long gone.Fr Couture was a disaster to be honest

And he has been a 15 year old ( and counting) disaster in Asia as well! But where to post him? We had heard that he cleaned out the coffers and the pockets of the faithful installing stained glass windows at the church near Dublin. Totally un-necessary considering the fledgling state of the mission there. Well he has now installed an expensive, but not that good looking, altar in Singapore.

He has beaten to pulp a phrase perhaps common in Ireland, which he still visits!:
God loves a cheerful giver.

Sure!

Have money (other people's) will travel

or as they say in Asia:

Whose father what goes!

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It's fair I add the disclaimer when replying. I already had a scenario with Clare from Ignis Ardens who somehow thought I was under the obedience of Fr Morgan. It's different if one is under obedience ie a cleric or third order member.

I personally believe Fr Couture was a disaster for Ireland.

The point really is criticism is valid and legitimate. The SSPX are not beyond criticism and have made terrible mistakes.Many clerics have also been remarkably arrogant.

John Grace · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2012, 03:02:57 PM »

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It would be wrong to suggest there is no "success story" but serious mistakes were made. A positive for Ireland is Irish priests have finally being stationed here. Ireland was sort of a "Craggy Island" for the Society. A positive in districts are of course vocations, priests and religious sisters, good marriages, a valid mass, family and many children.

An Irish girl regularly goes to these medical missions in The Philippines

Any idea how many people go to the main SSPX churches in Ireland? Also are there many young adults/families there? One problem with the local SSPX chapel in my city is that the majority of the attendees are retired. Of course there's nothing wrong with the elderly, and they do so much good for the chapel, but it's nice to have young people thrown in too.

My understanding is that the SSPX congregation in London is rather small compared to France or America but has a very active group of young Catholics. Is it similar in Ireland?

Is there an active League Kingship Christ chapter for Catholic men or possibility of a youth group with emphasis on the social teachings/Catholic Action?

In Ireland there is a good mix of young and old. The SSPX in London is very active. Many of their faithful recently picketed an abortuary. They have several groups including one for Catholic ladies.

In Ireland the majority are social teaching/distributist types. A 'back to the land advocate' would love Ireland.Ruralism is our future.Catholic Action is strong in Ireland.Resisting, fighting types.Religion goes hand in hand with politics. None of this pray and be good quietist types. Your faith without works and action is dead.

Even in London, families are leaving to return to the land, and live in a rural area.

John Grace · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2012, 03:25:45 PM »

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I add the Cath Info disclaimer. There is a danger of misunderstanding on internet fora. I don't financially support the SSPX since the Krahgate events. I sent an email and explained to the District Superior why in principle, I don't give his organisation any money.The District Superior is a decent cleric and hopefully he understands. I explained any ways. I did add the Cath Info disclaimer lest you think I am suggesting people not financially contribute. I don't nor can I in conscience do so. I have my principles.

John Grace · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2012, 03:36:47 PM »

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Even in London, families are leaving to return to the land, and live in a rural area.

London is in a bad way. A multi-racial,multi cultural place where locals are a minority in some parts. I would be sorry to see London go but reality is eventually the SSPX will have to sell their London chapel. It's in an area with blacks and asians. Locals avoid it. I personally believe a day is coming soon when the SSPX will have to sell up or either get louder in calling for the repatriation of the immigrants. London isn't 'home'. They are 'English' when it comes to the NHS and benefits but that is about it.
What is happening in England would be called genocide if happening in other countries. It's dire. It's deliberate. The only way to get London back is by street by street. A rights for whites movement. It's crazy over there. I was on a bus a few months ago there, and it was very disturbing. It's tragic.

John Grace · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2012, 03:55:50 PM »

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Even in London, families are leaving to return to the land, and live in a rural area.

London is in a bad way. A multi-racial,multi cultural place where locals are a minority in some parts. I would be sorry to see London go but reality is eventually the SSPX will have to sell their London chapel. It's in an area with blacks and asians. Locals avoid it. I personally believe a day is coming soon when the SSPX will have to sell up or either get louder in calling for the repatriation of the immigrants. London isn't 'home'. They are 'English' when it comes to the NHS and benefits but that is about it.
What is happening in England would be called genocide if happening in other countries. It's dire. It's deliberate. The only way to get London back is by street by street. A rights for whites movement. It's crazy over there. I was on a bus a few months ago there, and it was very disturbing. It's tragic.

I see the comment has I had one 'dislike'. I don't mind. London is still dire and disliking a comment doesn't resolve the problems of the multi-racial society that is not in interests of local people or the invaders.

John Grace · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2012, 04:16:17 PM »

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Even in London, families are leaving to return to the land, and live in a rural area.

London is in a bad way. A multi-racial,multi cultural place where locals are a minority in some parts. I would be sorry to see London go but reality is eventually the SSPX will have to sell their London chapel. It's in an area with blacks and asians. Locals avoid it. I personally believe a day is coming soon when the SSPX will have to sell up or either get louder in calling for the repatriation of the immigrants. London isn't 'home'. They are 'English' when it comes to the NHS and benefits but that is about it.
What is happening in England would be called genocide if happening in other countries. It's dire. It's deliberate. The only way to get London back is by street by street. A rights for whites movement. It's crazy over there. I was on a bus a few months ago there, and it was very disturbing. It's tragic.

I see the comment has I had one 'dislike'. I don't mind. London is still dire and disliking a comment doesn't resolve the problems of the multi-racial society that is not in interests of local people or the invaders.

I gladly support the Irish in London returning home.

clare · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2012, 04:44:57 PM »

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I gladly support the Irish in London returning home.

That would involve breaking up a lot of families!

John Grace · « **Reply #13 on:** April 07, 2012, 05:46:21 PM »

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Even in London, families are leaving to return to the land, and live in a rural area.

London is in a bad way. A multi-racial,multi cultural place where locals are a minority in some parts. I would be sorry to see London go but reality is eventually the SSPX will have to sell their London chapel. It's in an area with blacks and asians. Locals avoid it. I personally believe a day is coming soon when the SSPX will have to sell up or either get louder in calling for the repatriation of the immigrants. London isn't 'home'. They are 'English' when it comes to the NHS and benefits but that is about it.
What is happening in England would be called genocide if happening in other countries. It's dire. It's deliberate. The only way to get London back is by street by street. A rights for whites movement. It's crazy over there. I was on a bus a few months ago there, and it was very disturbing. It's tragic.

Dont forget to include in that "loud call for repatriation" the Asian and African SSPX priests and religious who may be based in Britain.

But seriously. You seem to have little awareness of World history and population movements over the centuries. Even at Pentecost there were all sorts of people in Jerusalem. And haven't you Irish parked yourselves in every corner of the world over the years?

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But seriously. You seem to have little awareness of World history and population movements over the centuries.

This is your opinion. There is every reality the SSPX chapel in London will be sold. It's already attended by blacks.Far too many. They are hardly local or English as English people are white. Black people can never be English except when it comes to the health service and benefits. The English being a white race is common sense.No wonder white people are leaving the city.They are being colonised and driven out. Some go by choice though. Other white people live in total fear in parts of London. Locals are a minority in some parts so a rights for whites campaign is no exaggeration. The politicians who have failed the working man of England don't live in these areas. Even Billy Bragg doesn't. A great supporter of multi culti Britain doesn't live among the blacks.

John Grace · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2012, 05:59:21 PM »

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And haven't you Irish parked yourselves in every corner of the world over the years?

I did address this point earlier and would call for the Irish diaspora to return home. Financial help will assist the humane repatriation of the blacks, west indies and others from Britain. Their families would return home also. Repatriation would be voluntary but it might need to be compulsory. It would be on a case by case basis but the indigenous folk of Britain have a right to their homeland. These are the English,Scots, Welsh, Irish and Ulster people.

In Ireland for example Brazilians have been high on the list for voluntary repatriation back to their place of origin.

True diversity means people in their own country.Common sense.