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Author Topic: Slyke, “Abstinence from Conjugal Relations Before Reception of Body of ☧” (2016)  (Read 2627 times)

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St. Gregory of Nyssa, for example, was married and highly praised virginity and its beauty. Does that make him "obsessed with sex and all topics touching on it," too?
No, because St. Gregory of Nyssa thought and spoke about other topics as well. There is nothing wrong with praising virginity and purity. But when your only topic of interest is sex and other topics closely related to it? Geremia just started a new thread on contraception. There's that favorite topic again. I dare you to check out his post history. It is not difficult to do.


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No, because St. Gregory of Nyssa thought and spoke about other topics as well. There is nothing wrong with praising virginity and purity. But when your only topic of interest is sex and other topics closely related to it? Geremia just started a new thread on contraception. There's that favorite topic again. I dare you to check out his post history. It is not difficult to do.
Other than the contraception thread, which is something every Catholic should be in full agreement with him about, the only two other threads he's made about sex in his last 2 pages of threads(didn't bother going back further after going through 20 odd threads and many months and seeing no evidence of your claims) were one about a saint's vow of virginity and this one. You're clearly the one obsessed with sex if you see Geremia as somehow personally attacking you because he made a thread about temporary abstinence. 


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I visit here but never started my own thread. If anyone wishes to post this story as a Warning to Catholic Men, about Catholic 'Princesses' please do so.

Im Middle Aged. Married 19 Years. Im blessed with 3 Beautiful & very much loved Children.
I was raised Novus Ordo, not particularly strict, but  in a  solid family, and after meeting a 'nice' girl at age 30 and ready to settle down, I was asked to attend the Latin Mass. I did, and havent looked back.
SPPX, SPPV, Independent, Greek Orthodox, and Diocese Affiliated Masses. Ive attended them all.

By all accounts, my wife seemed traditional, nice Ethnic family (Southern Mediterranean).  We dated and got to know one another well.  She was family oriented, quiet, not prone to wild outbursts or overly moody, attractive-though a bit short to my liking, but kind and a pleaser, esp. where her family was concerned.  She was almost 34 when we met  (Red Flag).

I was a former D 1 Athlete, nice physique, Muscular, and attractive enough to date NFL Cheerleaders and Beauty Pageant contestants, Homecoming Queens etc.  And I did.  Not bragging, just fact.  More than anything, I wanted and demanded a wholesome girl. By accounts, I found one in her. Our Second date was at her i- laws farm and we deer hunted, I bagged a nice 8 point.  Shes a dream right?

We kept the relationship pure for 1.5 years.
No physical lust at all.  It was very hard and trying.  We Restricted to kissing etc etc
I Soon learned that she had formerly lived with her former fiance at 22 (Reg Flag #2!).  And was for the most part single most of her 20s, moving to various large cities in the healthcare field. 

Prior to marrying, we sat down and I gave her the serious interview questions......THE Talk so to speak. 
Not judgmental, but I needed to know if we were right for one another.  I knew that we all make mistakes, and was accepting of reasonable mistakes, say a few relationships that didnt work out, that included Sex in those relationships.  Shes 34 after all, and reasonably attractive, modest, and not flamoyant. 

My questions were 'How Many Men Have You Slept With'?   I was told begrudgingly...... 4.
OK, not great, but if she can count them on 1 hand, I guess I can make an exception.  I too had made mistakes, right?
How Many men have you hooked up With?  Casual Flings....etc? 
'Well, She said.  Ive Kissed alot of guys.   But never have hooked up with guys.  I was in a sorority etc  (Another Red Flag)'   Avoidance on her part was kicking in and that was basically her response. 

Fast forward 15 years later. 
In the heat of a bad argument, she drank about a bottle of wine.  I told her I didnt believe her about her past.  And she Confessed.  She had 2 other sɛҳuąƖ encounters, a close 3rd.  So shes basically slept with 7 guys prior to our marriage.
And about 30 guys she 'hooked up' with and most of those resulted in some sort of lustful activity.   This is a deeply religious woman by the way, Rosary every night, Never misses A Holy Day, lots of books on Saints, No meat Fridays kind of Gal.   College Educated to boot (Another Red Flag!!)

She had an STD, it was the bad one, which shall be unnamed.  (RED FLAG!!)
She disclosed this to me prior to our marriage. I forgave and overlooked.
She is a devoted Mother, but a Horrible Wife.  Nacisisstic, Self Absorbed, Does Nothing to Please Me, Desires to be a Stepford Wife, ie Shoe & Purse collection, have Mimosas and cocktails with her well to do friends (One is Recently divorced, married a heart surgeon.  Many of her College friends have had abortions. They are still friends.  I asked my wife if she had, and was told no, But she was 2 weeks late with her period, after a brief 'hookup' with a guy she knew and liked, after her fiance broke up with her.

My issues are many.
Our Catholic Priest (Independent) Never asked us if we were concealing anything from one another....
I told myself prior to THE TALK, if it was more than 3-4 partners in serious relationship encounters, She was OUT. 
She passed that test only because she lied and committed FRAUD.  This is grounds for an annulment Ive learned.  Im sure other things have been kept from me as well, but I think that I have been given most of the bad news in her drunken stupor (Truth serum).

Why would a decent (but far from perfect) man not want to marry a promiscuous woman or a SL*T?
Well lets see.   .....
She doesnt value herself or respect herself.  Low Value  #1
She Doesnt make good, sound decisions  #2
She doesnt bond well with her husband.    * Sex releases Bonding chemicals & Endorphins especially and moreso in women. The more partners, the less attachment. GOD intended it this way to create Unity perhaps.
Studies now prove this.   Marriage is much more stable with virgin women,  Divorce is less than 10%.  Move up to 3-5 partners for women and its a 33% chance of divorce. Move over 10 and its close to 50-60%.  I have the studies btw.

Basically, I am reduced to the janitor in charge of mopping up this womans wreck of a life, meaningless affairs & sɛҳuąƖ encounters, little bond between us, and seemingly no pleasing on her part towards me.  
And I think that I well understand now the whys of it.  

I write this as a warning to other young men.   I would never EVER do what I did. 
It is a Living Hell and has been one, from pretty much Day 1.  I sensed on our Honeymoon, this was a fluke.  A Gotcha trap.. I felt no connection with her, and havent much since.   She got pregnant on our honeymoon which kept me from even considering leaving her, and had 2 more children, who are wonderful achieving, loving kids. 
We play it off well in front of company, but Ive thought of and spoken of leaving countless times, it is only the children keeping me here.  What a Life.   I had the pick of so many decent women and ended up with this. 

Marriage Matters. Ones History Matters. Be demanding!
If ones past didnt matter, then a credit report wouldnt be used by banks.  A Job resume wouldnt be considered by employers.
Ive now wasted 20 years, lots of money and have a loveless marriage.  She rarely cooks (And not well-I do most of it), Cleans-Ants now on my nice new floors from crumbs, Any work on the house outside of Painting, and Sex is infrequent at best.
Its a bloody mess.  Pray for me. Pray for young girls to not be corrupted and an End to Feminism.

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I am sorry your marriage is unhappy. I am unable to marry so I get lonely and often wish I had a wife. I know many marriages are unhappy. In fact I hear more about unhappy marriages than happy ones. But the fantasy is appealing. I am glad you have three children that you love.
R.I.P.
Please pray for the repose of my soul.