I for one am sick and tired of the ongoing debate about Malachi Martin and would be glad the subject of him was never brought up again. Either one believes he was the greatest and did wonderful work exposing all the evils in the Church or you believe he was a total charlatan. Neither side is ever going to capitulate to the other so what's the point? People are going to believe what they want and most of the time nothing is going to persuade them to change their opinion.
His hatred of the Gospel and blasphemies against Christ are unsurpassed even by the rabbis.
Quote from: GuestI for one am sick and tired of the ongoing debate about Malachi Martin and would be glad the subject of him was never brought up again. Either one believes he was the greatest and did wonderful work exposing all the evils in the Church or you believe he was a total charlatan. Neither side is ever going to capitulate to the other so what's the point? People are going to believe what they want and most of the time nothing is going to persuade them to change their opinion.
That's not what's going on. Since his death, he has continued to have an increasing influence on Catholics, making them aware of the Crisis in the Church and drawing them into or back into the traditional practice of the faith.
A number of people don't like this. Trads who disagreed or were jealous, liberals who hated his ability to deconstruct their arguements and gunslingers who were out to build a reputation on taking him down.
I do not believe he was "the greatest" just like I don't believe Frs. Feeney or Coughlin were "the greatest" or even Archbishop LeFebvre.
But people want to know about him and the detractors try their best to defame him and those of us who find him worthwhile and beneficial will continue to defend him.
Whatever your motives in wanting him banned as a topic, you are automatically promoting the position of the liberals and the jealous trads and denying the people who might benefit from his works, those good things he offered in the service of the Church.
People can read their catechism, the writings of the Saints, &c., to find the holy Faith.
Why not just pray for the late Fr. Martin, whose soul has been judged by Our Lord and that judgment has not been revealed to us: so let's all just let the departed be, and focus on the Faith.
These ridiculous fights are just making it more easy to many to turn away in disgust.
Was fr. Malachi Martin a villain and did he write "The Pilgrim"? If so, what would be the status of his soul at death? That book is a serious spiritual sabotage and attack on the Catholic soul.
As for "The Pilgrim" let us not forget the despicable accusations in that book directed at the heart and soul of the faith for the singular and diabolical purpose of demoralizing the Catholic faithful so that, in our dazed and weakened state, our enemies could have their way with us. Maybe his whole "I want to tell you the truth about Vatican II" was to keep the traditionalists deceived by following a deceiver.
Quote from: GuestHis hatred of the Gospel and blasphemies against Christ are unsurpassed even by the rabbis.
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...and the nonsense continues.
Quote from: GuestWas fr. Malachi Martin a villain and did he write "The Pilgrim"? If so, what would be the status of his soul at death? That book is a serious spiritual sabotage and attack on the Catholic soul.
The book ends with the hope that Paul VI would be able to rally the world around the Church and draw all its people to God with the Petrine Primacy being the focal point of unity.
You must not have read it or read it through. And you couldn't have read the jacket either.
Quote from: GuestQuote from: GuestWas fr. Malachi Martin a villain and did he write "The Pilgrim"? If so, what would be the status of his soul at death? That book is a serious spiritual sabotage and attack on the Catholic soul.
The book ends with the hope that Paul VI would be able to rally the world around the Church and draw all its people to God with the Petrine Primacy being the focal point of unity.
You must not have read it or read it through. And you couldn't have read the jacket either.
If the book wants Paul VI to be the final victor, then it's an evil book.
If you were Catholic, you'd understand what I just wrote.
Quote from: GuestQuote from: GuestQuote from: GuestWas fr. Malachi Martin a villain and did he write "The Pilgrim"? If so, what would be the status of his soul at death? That book is a serious spiritual sabotage and attack on the Catholic soul.
The book ends with the hope that Paul VI would be able to rally the world around the Church and draw all its people to God with the Petrine Primacy being the focal point of unity.
You must not have read it or read it through. And you couldn't have read the jacket either.
If the book wants Paul VI to be the final victor, then it's an evil book.
If you were Catholic, you'd understand what I just wrote.
Sorry if the post above comes across as insulting.
Think about it for a minute.
Fr. Martin writes a book with the hero being a man who changed (dumbed down and possibly invalidated) all seven sacraments. Replaced the Holy Mass with a rip off of the Lutheran service. Removes all Catholic opposition to communism and tells the U.N. that they are the "ultimate" source of hope for the world.
So, once that happens, everyone in the world is going to embrade the new catholicism? So what if they did? The world wouldn't be embracing Christ, it would be embracing the counterfeit church.
Are you implicitly or explicitly saying that Paul VI is superior to the Church Our Lord founded? Did Our Lord get it so wrong that Paul VI had to do a rewrite?
If the book wants Paul VI to be the final victor, then it's an evil book.
If you were Catholic, you'd understand what I just wrote.
Is "The Pilgrim" available at Amazon or has it become out of print and really expensive to procure?
Is "The Pilgrim" available at Amazon or has it become out of print and really expensive to procure?