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Änσnymσus

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Re: Should I Try To Convert My Home-aloner Sede Friend?
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2021, 03:15:46 PM »
Getting him away from the Dimond cult is probably the best thing to start with.
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Re: Should I Try To Convert My Home-aloner Sede Friend?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2021, 04:30:00 PM »
I had the same problem with a lady friend.  Time on her hands, read everything from the Diamonds and I became an instant heretic who she refuses to talk with anymore.

I just meant a lady and her son, converts and then she gave me thoughts of confusion and the Holy Ghost prompted me to mention the Diamonds, and low and behold she says, how did you know?!  Ha!
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Re: Should I Try To Convert My Home-aloner Sede Friend?
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2021, 04:35:34 PM »
I'm not sure "convert" is the right word here --- he is a Catholic, you are a Catholic, he just has some strange ideas about the nature of the Church in the present day, obviously fueled by the Dimonds. 

In all of this, I don't think any of us are "written out of the Church", we just come to different conclusions, whether reluctant Summorum pontificuм adherents, SSPX, sedevacantists, home-aloners, Dimond adherents, or even if we've run off and followed "Pope Michael", or in the other direction, I would submit, those entirely doctrinally orthodox "conservative Novus Ordo" who think it is their bounden duty, binding under pain of mortal sin, to defend the Novus Ordo, Vatican II, and Francis and his bishops, to the moon and back.  None of these people want to "go against the Church", they just have different ideas as to what that means and entails.

I would say just to point out his errors to him, make allowance for his disabilities, invoke the Holy Ghost, and let it go.
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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: Should I Try To Convert My Home-aloner Sede Friend?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2021, 09:55:08 PM »
Quote from: SimpleMan on May 13, 2021, 04:35:34 PM
I'm not sure "convert" is the right word here --- he is a Catholic, you are a Catholic, he just has some strange ideas about the nature of the Church in the present day, obviously fueled by the Dimonds.  

In all of this, I don't think any of us are "written out of the Church", we just come to different conclusions, whether reluctant Summorum pontificuм adherents, SSPX, sedevacantists, home-aloners, Dimond adherents, or even if we've run off and followed "Pope Michael", or in the other direction, I would submit, those entirely doctrinally orthodox "conservative Novus Ordo" who think it is their bounden duty, binding under pain of mortal sin, to defend the Novus Ordo, Vatican II, and Francis and his bishops, to the moon and back.  None of these people want to "go against the Church", they just have different ideas as to what that means and entails.

I would say just to point out his errors to him, make allowance for his disabilities, invoke the Holy Ghost, and let it go.
I assumed "Convert" was being used casually, as in convert to a different way of thinking, not necessarily a formal belief that he's not in the Church (IDK one way or the other)
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Re: Should I Try To Convert My Home-aloner Sede Friend?
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2021, 03:31:04 AM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 13, 2021, 02:46:48 PM
It is hard because my friend is blind and cannot walk and has diabetes and his kidneys don't work, so he is confined to a chair. I try to help by talking to him often and being a friend and I bring him food sometimes. But he is in such bad shape that it is hard for him to have any kind of work to keep his mind occupied.
It sounds like you are doing what you can for him, and this will help him to have a more positive outlook, one would hope.
Is he down in spirit? Can you possibly bring a priest to visit with you?
Is it possible for him to access recorded books? e.g. https://bookaudio.online/authors  (secular) or you might also find Catholic books.
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