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Re: Should apostate relatives be disowned?
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2017, 07:09:22 PM »
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  • Be as St. Monica as she was with St. Augustine, her son.  You keep it to prayer and prayer can be consoling, guiding, instructing.  I asked Our Lady if she would give me a dream, like St. Bosco.  A dream to help me to see where our daughter was coming from when she "was" on drugs.  I got a dream, and it made me cry, but I thanked My Lady, for she did help me to see where she was.  We pray for everyone, as like Christ, forgive them, they do not know what they are doing.

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    Re: Should apostate relatives be disowned?
    « Reply #16 on: April 06, 2018, 02:35:25 PM »
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  • St. Francis of Assisi basically disowned his own biological father, saying that the bishop was his true father.


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    Re: Should apostate relatives be disowned?
    « Reply #17 on: April 06, 2018, 03:57:10 PM »
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  • St. Francis of Assisi basically disowned his own biological father, saying that the bishop was his true father.
    “Hitherto I have called Pietro Bernardone father; but now I am the servant of God.”

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    Re: Should apostate relatives be disowned?
    « Reply #18 on: April 06, 2018, 04:42:05 PM »
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  • From Lord of the World by Fr. Robert Hugh Benson

    Father Francis, who had been sitting in a lax kind of huddle, seemed to know his thoughts, and sat up suddenly.

    "You are tired of me," he said. "I will go."

    "I am not tired of you, my dear father," said Percy simply. "I am only terribly sorry. You see I know that it is all true."

    The other looked at him heavily.

    "And I know that it is not," he said. "It is very beautiful; I wish I could believe it. I don't think I shall be ever happy again—but—but there it is."

    Percy sighed. He had told him so often that the heart is as divine a gift as the mind, and that to neglect it in the search for God is to seek ruin, but this priest had scarcely seen the application to himself. He had answered with the old psychological arguments that the suggestions of education accounted for everything.

    "I suppose you will cast me off," said the other.

    "It is you who are leaving me," said Percy. "I cannot follow, if you mean that."

    "But—but cannot we be friends?"

    A sudden heat touched the elder priest's heart.

    "Friends?" he said. "Is sentimentality all you mean by friendship? What kind of friends can we be?"

    The other's face became suddenly heavy.

    "I thought so."

    "John!" cried Percy. "You see that, do you not? How can we pretend anything when you do not believe in God? For I do you the honour of thinking that you do not."

    Francis sprang up.

    "Well—-" he snapped. "I could not have believed—I am going."

    He wheeled towards the door.

    "John!" said Percy again. "Are you going like this? Can you not shake hands?"

    The other wheeled again, with heavy anger in his face.

    "Why, you said you could not be friends with me!"

    Percy's mouth opened. Then he understood, and smiled. "Oh! that is all you mean by friendship, is it?—I beg your pardon. Oh! we can be polite to one another, if you like."

    He still stood holding out his hand. Father Francis looked at it a moment, his lips shook: then once more he turned, and went out without a word.


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    Re: Should apostate relatives be disowned?
    « Reply #19 on: April 07, 2018, 07:06:39 AM »
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  • All my immediate relatives who were raised Traditional Catholic to some degree....

    "Traditional Catholic" is a relative term. Case in point are the numerous women on this forum.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    Re: Should apostate relatives be disowned?
    « Reply #20 on: April 07, 2018, 07:11:23 AM »
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  • should they be disowned if they convert to Judaism or marry a Jew?

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    Re: Should apostate relatives be disowned?
    « Reply #21 on: April 07, 2018, 09:20:21 AM »
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  • It's sad.  If you are asking this question, then you have already written then it if your hearts.   You are more list then they are. 

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    Re: Should apostate relatives be disowned?
    « Reply #22 on: April 10, 2018, 10:46:31 PM »
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  • Charity requires us to pray for family members who have gone astray from the Catholic Faith. 

    There is no requirement to associate with those who have left the Faith though. If anything, to do so would be like ignoring the giant elephant in the room. 

    The only exception would be that in getting together the discussion would be solely centered on the apostate recovering their Faith. 


     

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