Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 ... 9

Author Topic: Should a woman defend herself?  (Read 7348 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Änσnymσus

  • Guest
Should a woman defend herself?
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2013, 08:49:49 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • What kind of swimsuit were you wearing at the pool?
    Logged

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #31 on: May 28, 2013, 08:50:20 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Sacrosanct?

    No.

    Just biologically smaller and weaker.

    My son out weighs the girl at work by at least 50lbs. What should he do? Threaten her,, scare her,hit her? She finally figured out that he didn't think it cute, fun or anything else and stopped. He tutors her in physcis now.

    He is a 'privileged white male', he can't afford to ever get it any trouble, ever, for anything.

    Logged

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #32 on: May 28, 2013, 08:52:41 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Why don't you just admit the truth that you don't consider what happened to your son to be anything more than a trivial matter, and neither does the son.

    But if the shoe is on the other foot, even if the story of the girl is an outright fabrication, then it's a gravely serious matter.

    It's about women thinking of themselves as majestic creatures that cannot accept indignities of any kind without making an example of the offender.

    In fact, the young woman can make an advance, and the man is blamed for it.

    Young women shouldn't hang out at pools without guardians.

    Logged

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #33 on: May 28, 2013, 08:53:58 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Guest
    What kind of swimsuit were you wearing at the pool?



    Why would that matter? Although I am sure it was a one piece as I can't ever remember owninga bikini in my life.

    It was 25 years ago.  I don't even remember whatI was wearing. I just remember being absolutely terrified.

    Logged

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #34 on: May 28, 2013, 08:55:33 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Guest
    Why would that matter? Although I am sure it was a one piece as I can't ever remember owninga bikini in my life.

    It was 25 years ago.  I don't even remember whatI was wearing. I just remember being absolutely terrified.


    You should have been terrified to be dressed like that.
    Logged

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #35 on: May 28, 2013, 08:58:43 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Guest
    Why don't you just admit the truth that you don't consider what happened to your son and injury, and neither does the son.





    You are vile.

    You don't know my son. You have no idea what kind of man he is but I do and am proud of his self control and decency.That girl wasn't raised well, but we did our best with our boy and he behaved as a gentlemen.

    Logged

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #36 on: May 28, 2013, 09:05:42 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Guest
    You are vile.


    If a woman did something that was more than a trivial injury would a man elect to tutor her in the future?

    Men don't consider it a terrible affront when women make such physical advances on them.  Although they are put in a position of much greater risk to their reputations than women who endure a little pinch here or there.  

    Don't get me wrong, I don't think women should have to endure that.  Let's just cut the crap about how "scary" it is.

    You were in a one piece suit flaunting your body and a lifeguard grabbed hold of you.  Well, next time use better judgement.  He wasn't going to hurt you in public, and you knew it.

    Quote
    You don't know my son. You have no idea what kind of man he is but I do and am proud of his self control and decency.That girl wasn't raised well, but we did our best with our boy and he behaved as a gentlemen.


    All I said is that he considered the matter trivial.  

    And for that you lash out.

    Which shows the fundamental problem:

    Women can't bear being corrected, can't bear indignities from those they consider beneath them.

    They lash out with nasty insults, or attacks on reputations, or appeals to the available official bullies.

    It's why they have to be kept under control for a civil society to function.
    Logged

    Offline Sigismund

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5386
    • Reputation: +3123/-51
    • Gender: Male
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #37 on: May 28, 2013, 09:05:54 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Guest
    Let me get this straight Sigismund, some teenage boy pinches a woman's behind and it's a justification for brass knuckles?

    It's very unfortunate, I don't know what to tell the lady, except to avoid such people whenever possible.


    I assumed the brass knuckles post was a joke.  I was certainly responding to it with that presuppositon.

    Not, all humor aside, what you describe might be a reason for a slapped hand, not physical injury.  A woman so offended my do what is needed to end the offense.  No more and no less.  
    Logged
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

    Offline Sigismund

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5386
    • Reputation: +3123/-51
    • Gender: Male
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #38 on: May 28, 2013, 09:08:10 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Tiffany
    Quote from: Guest
    Let me get this straight Sigismund, some teenage boy pinches a woman's behind and it's a justification for brass knuckles?


    Absolutely


    ~Tiffany


    Tiffany is peaking for herself here, not for me.  A proportionate response is fine.  

    However, if you behave like such s slug that you would assault a woman in this way, and you do get punched, my sympathy is limited.
    Logged
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #39 on: May 28, 2013, 09:15:20 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • I am a female and have been in all these scenarios.  Some of them happened in the presence of my husband so don't assume that it only happens to single women.

    The only thing you can do is avoid these places.  They are ocassions of sin obviously.  Can you avoid the bus or take a route that is less crowded?

    I used to live in San Fran so I know what you mean about crowded buses--it's body to body during rush hour.  I witnessed a purse snatching and NOBODY not even the men said a word about it.  I was the single voice yelling "Hey, he grabbed her purse!"  

    Sorry I'm not much help but you do have my empathy.
    Logged

    Offline Sigismund

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5386
    • Reputation: +3123/-51
    • Gender: Male
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #40 on: May 28, 2013, 09:16:29 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Guest
    Quote from: Guest
    What kind of swimsuit were you wearing at the pool?



    Why would that matter? Although I am sure it was a one piece as I can't ever remember owninga bikini in my life.

    It was 25 years ago.  I don't even remember whatI was wearing. I just remember being absolutely terrified.



    I don't care how she was dressed.  Even if she was dressed immodestly (and I am not suggesting at all that she was) that is no excuse for this man's behavior.  

    Defending not only the virtue but the physical safety of women is something Catholic men should be eager and glad to do.  How is this even debatable?
    Logged
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #41 on: May 28, 2013, 09:16:32 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Guest
    Quote from: Guest
    Why would that matter? Although I am sure it was a one piece as I can't ever remember owninga bikini in my life.

    It was 25 years ago.  I don't even remember whatI was wearing. I just remember being absolutely terrified.


    You should have been terrified to be dressed like that.


    There is this dodgy argument where people make the victim out to be the perpetrator. It must come from the Jews, because they use it all the time. If a man can't behave himself at the public baths then he shouldn't be visiting or working there in the first place. Sure, a woman might be leading others to sin by her clothing (or lack thereof), but for a man to behave indecently and aggressively towards a woman is grave, regardless how she is dressed.
    Logged

    Offline Sigismund

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5386
    • Reputation: +3123/-51
    • Gender: Male
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #42 on: May 28, 2013, 09:18:06 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Guest
    Quote from: Guest
    Why would that matter? Although I am sure it was a one piece as I can't ever remember owninga bikini in my life.

    It was 25 years ago.  I don't even remember whatI was wearing. I just remember being absolutely terrified.


    You should have been terrified to be dressed like that.


    What a breathtakingly silly comment.
    Logged
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #43 on: May 28, 2013, 09:22:01 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • I take it you don't believe in Catholic standards of modesty?

    She wasn't wearing an old-fashioned dress, she was at a mixed pool.

    It's pretty cut and dry.  What would the saints say about the way she was dressed?
    Logged

    Offline Tiffany

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 3112
    • Reputation: +1640/-33
    • Gender: Female
    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #44 on: May 28, 2013, 09:24:17 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Why is this man groping a woman on the bus, who most likely has no way to defend herself, and not the local ladies at the weight lifting gym or the cafe where the women law enforcement officers like to meet for lunch? He is preying on the fact that she is helpless. He has no respect for her and he does not fear consequences.

    I don't understand why injuring a stranger who starts intentionally touching your private areas is over the top force. I'm not asking if it's a good idea or not in this culture.

    Logged
    Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 ... 9
    « previous next »