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Should a woman defend herself?
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2013, 08:12:30 PM »
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    Let me get this straight Sigismund, some teenage boy pinches a woman's behind and it's a justification for brass knuckles?


    Absolutely


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    That's absurd.  

    What if a woman groped me and I broke her jaw with a punch?  Would that be justified?

    Seriously - you are engaging in some female pedestalization here.

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    « Reply #16 on: May 28, 2013, 08:16:39 PM »
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    You are equating these things to rape?

    A little old woman isn't going to be able to do a damned thing to stop these people (short of using some sort of weapons), so if she isn't secure on public transportation, she's just in a bad predicament with poor options.


    A man is touching a woman's private area- on a bus or subway and you telling me he isn't doing it to be s**** excited?


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    « Reply #17 on: May 28, 2013, 08:19:50 PM »
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    Let me get this straight Sigismund, some teenage boy pinches a woman's behind and it's a justification for brass knuckles?


    Absolutely


    ~Tiffany


    That's absurd.  

    What if a woman groped me and I broke her jaw with a punch?  Would that be justified?

    Seriously - you are engaging in some female pedestalization here.


    Yes it would be.

    We are talking about strangers here, not an acquaintance who did something inappropriate or not welcomed and then stopped.

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    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #18 on: May 28, 2013, 08:20:15 PM »
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  • The degree of injury to the woman has nothing to do with his motivations.

    These things (within certain limits) are traditionally a cause of levity, rightly or wrongly.

    Not of homicidal retribution.  That is weird, it comes from the feminism.

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    « Reply #19 on: May 28, 2013, 08:21:16 PM »
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    Yes it would be.

    We are talking about strangers here, not an acquaintance who did something inappropriate or not welcomed and then stopped.


    That's crazy, and any man who injured a woman like that for touching him would be locked up.


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    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #20 on: May 28, 2013, 08:23:48 PM »
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    What do CI readers think a woman should do in such circuмstances?
    Case #1
    An intoxicated man makes a grab for her breasts on a crowded public shopping district street in broad daylight.
    Case #2
    A professionally dressed man gropes a woman while riding a crowded public transportation vehicle.
    Case #3
    A young man grabs the derierre of a woman three times his age and makes a crude remark for the benefit of his two pals.  Again, occurs in public, in a convenience store, with approximately a dozen other customers, male and female present.

    In all three cases, the woman is dressed modestly in feminine clothing that would pass the "Padre Pio Test."  Case one, the woman yelled and pushed the drunk away.  Case two, she screamed and stomped with her heel on top of his foot.  Case three, she yelled, and when all three fled, she reported it to the store manager who laughed in her face.  In cases one and two, she told a police officer who shrugged it off as 'nothing.'  By the time of case three, she knew the police were useless.  In no case did a man come to her defense, although men were present and knew what had happened. A woman offered to pursue the three youths in her car, but then what if they'd been located?

    What should the woman who is single-in-the-world and past marriageable/enter a convent age do?  Please give realistic suggestions, nothing ridiculous like wear a burka, go live in a cave, hire a full-time body-guard, pull out a pistol and shoot him the head...Anyonnow some effective but subtle martial arts maneuvers?



    The responses were appropriate.
    There are plentyofself-defence seminars out there. With a little looking one can find one taught and attended by women so you are not rolling around on a mat with strange man. Our martial arts studio gives such classes.

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    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #21 on: May 28, 2013, 08:28:32 PM »
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  • A woman who attempts to inflict severe injury on some creep who is bugging her could end up in serious trouble.  I would not advise it.

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    « Reply #22 on: May 28, 2013, 08:30:33 PM »
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    The degree of injury to the woman has nothing to do with his motivations.

    These things (within certain limits) are traditionally a cause of levity, rightly or wrongly.

    Not of homicidal retribution.  That is weird, it comes from the feminism.



    I'm with you that the feminism cry too much as abuse and other things they are over the top with.

     Seriously though this is a strange person who comes up and starts touching private areas! It's not the neighbor she grew up with for 15 years that tried to kiss her and instead of being gracious she cries pervert because he isn't in the right crowd.



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    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #23 on: May 28, 2013, 08:32:17 PM »
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  • A woman is injured and it's he said she said.  Who is going to jail?

    Any man who struck a woman for touching him would be regarded as a fool at best.

    Women believe they are untouchable, this is actually a serious social problem.

    There are some unpleasant things that have to be brushed aside as part of life.  Not made a pretext for uncontrolled violence.

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    « Reply #24 on: May 28, 2013, 08:36:25 PM »
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    Minor offenses you probably just have to accept, until you can avoid people who do such things.

    Attempting to inflict injury on someone over a minor thing is not proportional self-defense, and might well be self-defeating or lead to something worse.


    If a man starts touching your sixteen year old daughter, you don't have a right to inflict injury on him?  I'd probably end up in the ICU but I would do my best.

     Do you know how disgusting it is? They do this things for ******* excitement. I thought lethal force was justified for rape, murder, or kidnapping.

    ~Tiffany



    Why take any chances?
    It would be okay to beat-up the offender-up and it wouldn't be a sin.
    If you don't believe that, go consult any SSPX priest formed prior to 2003.

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    « Reply #25 on: May 28, 2013, 08:36:43 PM »
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  • Being groped as a woman just isn't the same as a woman grabbing  a man.
    I was once restrainedl and fondled by a lifeguard in a pool. He was much larger, stronger and older than I was. It was extremely frightening even with other people nearby.
    That is just not the same as the slutty girl who works the cash register grabbing my son's behind while he is working the grill. Inappropriate, disgusting, sinful, awkward etc....yes it is but it is not frightening or threatening.

    The level of vulnerability is not comparable.


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    « Reply #26 on: May 28, 2013, 08:38:23 PM »
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    Yes it would be.

    We are talking about strangers here, not an acquaintance who did something inappropriate or not welcomed and then stopped.


    That's crazy, and any man who injured a woman like that for touching him would be locked up.


    Yes he would be, he could be beaten by a woman and he would most likely be arrested, but I think a punch is appropriate (as far as what type of force is moral)  for a stranger that intentionally touches  private areas.


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    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #27 on: May 28, 2013, 08:39:42 PM »
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    Being groped as a woman just isn't the same as a woman grabbing  a man.
    I was once restrainedl and fondled by a lifeguard in a pool. He was much larger, stronger and older than I was. It was extremely frightening even with other people nearby.
    That is just not the same as the slutty girl who works the cash register grabbing my son's behind while he is working the grill. Inappropriate, disgusting, sinful, awkward etc....yes it is but it is not frightening or threatening.

    The level of vulnerability is not comparable.


    In other words, women are specially sancrosanct.

    Including slutty women.  They get a pass, men get the hammer dropped on them.

    And women lie too.  There's nothing to stop a woman from making a false claim.

    Young women should not be permitted to go out without escort.

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    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #28 on: May 28, 2013, 08:40:12 PM »
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  • If she "defends" herself, even with strong words, todays uncouth men can quickly react with violence, and of course, no one would intervene on her behalf.  :sad:

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    Should a woman defend herself?
    « Reply #29 on: May 28, 2013, 08:42:53 PM »
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  • A woman takes fright (they do on any pretext imaginable, for attention half the time) and it's time to start locking people up.

    Women have to be kept under control because they cannot be responsible for their actions.  Past civilizations understood this.

    Ours does not