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Offline Meg

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Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2021, 12:01:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: MyrnaM on July 28, 2021, 11:59:41 AM
    That is a force?  Perhaps because you know it to be true and you believe it to be true.  
    Think about the Will of God, not your will.

    See....that's just it. You believe that Sedeism is God's will.

    Can you think outside of the sede box for even a moment? I think not.
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #46 on: July 28, 2021, 12:02:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 28, 2021, 11:58:41 AM
    Sedes are just plain nuts, and they want everyone else to be just as nuts as them. Though of course they (you) believe that no one should be allowed to believe anything else except sedeism.
    The more you post I see your fingerprints on the OP.  
    Yes, we are crazy for the Truth, because the truth will set you free!
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #47 on: July 28, 2021, 12:03:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 28, 2021, 12:01:34 PM
    See....that's just it. You believe that Sedeism is God's will.

    Can you think outside of the sede box for even a moment? I think not.
    Sedeism that it happened is not the Will of God, but He allowed it to happen,  so now face it, the Chair of Peter is empty of a True Pope.  Pure and Simple!
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #48 on: July 28, 2021, 12:04:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: MyrnaM on July 28, 2021, 12:02:10 PM
    The more you post I see your fingerprints on the OP.  
    Yes, we are crazy for the Truth, because the truth will set you free!

    I did not write the OP. But it's okay if nutty sedes think it was me. I know that you cannot help it.

    Sedeism is like a disease, just like Modernism is.

    Bp. Faure once said that the Resistance is attacked on two sides - on the left are those who are the Ralliers who want a deal with Rome, and on the right - those who attack the
    Resistance are the Sedevacantists. And they are allowed to fully attack here. Why is that? This forum obviously does not support the Resistance, except in name only. And even then....
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #49 on: July 28, 2021, 12:07:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 28, 2021, 12:04:38 PM
    I did not write the OP. But it's okay if nutty sedes think it was me. I know that you cannot help it.
    You mean there are two you?   Ouch!  
    Mary keep you, off to Mass now, visit Cathinfo later!
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #50 on: July 28, 2021, 12:41:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 28, 2021, 11:58:41 AM
    Sedes are just plain nuts, and they want everyone else to be just as nuts as them. Though of course they (you) believe that no one should be allowed to believe anything else except sedeism.
    Weird. Anecdotal but I don't see anyone nuts at my chapel. You seem to be getting your impressions from a very narrow group or persons. Maybe you need to get offline and go to a chapel. The "Just log off" meme applies here, especially if you are just hatewatching and hatereading Sede content. 

    Quote from: DigitalLogos on July 28, 2021, 11:52:59 AM
    I didn't know you had the gift to discern souls. How exactly are we forcing anyone to our view? By arguing against contradictory R&R theology?
    Meg, projecting your beliefs onto us isn't going to help your case, now I'm wondering if you think you could identify a Sedevacantist out of a lineup or crowd. Your behavior is strange, DL is right here: Our view is internally coherent but if you look on Twitter, here or elsewhere you see vehement sewage spewed at our characters for doing nothing else than trying to hold to the faith. It's not coming from Protestants, Muslims or whatever either, it's always RnRs and NOs.
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #51 on: July 28, 2021, 12:42:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 28, 2021, 11:55:54 AM
    By assuming that you have the only correct view.

    And you don't contradict +ABL's views. You haven't actually managed to do that. But you think yourself superior anyway. As sedes usually do.
    Ultimately, with an issue like this, there will likely be only one correct view. You assume you have the only correct view so that makes you just as "bad" as us.

    The problem with R&R is they have to make themselves the pope. If the "pope" teachings something, they believe they have the authority to determine if it's true or not. That is now how the church works.
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #52 on: July 28, 2021, 01:10:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 28, 2021, 11:58:41 AM
    Sedes are just plain nuts….

    What’s actually nuts is refusing to see the stark reality spitting in our faces day after day. One cannot be the head of a body of which he is not a member. And if there’s anyone who manifestly hates the Catholic Church with all the white hot hatred of a thousand burning suns, it’s Jorge Bergoglio. Sedes simply acknowledge reality. Nothing nuts about that; rather, quite sane. 
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #53 on: July 28, 2021, 01:14:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bataar on July 28, 2021, 12:42:29 PM
    The problem with R&R is they have to make themselves the pope. If the "pope" teachings something, they believe they have the authority to determine if it's true or not. That is now how the church works.
    It's really not as complicated as all that.

    The Highest Principle in the Church is "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man." (Fr. Hesse)

    R&R, adhering to this principle, leave it at that.  
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #54 on: July 28, 2021, 01:21:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 28, 2021, 12:04:38 PM
    Sedeism is like a disease, just like Modernism is....
    :laugh2:

    So, believing there is, in fact, a "sede" is a disease?  And Modernism is a disease, not the synthesis of all heresies?

    I am amused that the most ornery, cantankerous, pseudo-intellectual broad in the joint is casting aspersions and saying those unfortunate enough to disagree with her arguably utterly-Gallican take on things are nuts!  Classic!  :laugh1:

    Traddieland may regularly and spectacularly fail to impress, but it is a never-ending source of oft-twisted entertainment.

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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #55 on: July 28, 2021, 01:25:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: AspiringToHeaven on July 28, 2021, 01:10:17 PM
    What’s actually nuts is refusing to see the stark reality spitting in our faces day after day. One cannot be the head of a body of which he is not a member. And if there’s anyone who manifestly hates the Catholic Church with all the white hot hatred of a thousand burning suns, it’s Jorge Bergoglio. Sedes simply acknowledge reality. Nothing nuts about that; rather, quite sane.
    Reality actually is that if the Church teaches that the pope has all the attributes that sedes believe he has, which She doesn't, but if She does, then the sedes [and all trads] are altogether wrong and the NOers all got it correct.

    Instead of realizing that many of the teachings sedes rely on to embrace the sede belief are false, sedes decide the pope is false. It really is as basic as that.
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #56 on: July 28, 2021, 01:43:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on July 28, 2021, 01:25:37 PM
    Reality actually is that if the Church teaches that the pope has all the attributes that sedes believe he has, which She doesn't, but if She does, then the sedes [and all trads] are altogether wrong and the NOers all got it correct.

    Instead of realizing that many of the teachings sedes rely on to embrace the sede belief are false, sedes decide the pope is false. It really is as basic as that.

    It’s really as basic as this:

    If the Novus Ordo organization, now headed by Francis, is the actual Catholic Church, then the Church has defected. But we’ve been divinely assured that the Church cannot defect. Hence the Novus Ordo organization cannot possibly be the actual Catholic Church.

    There’s nothing nuts or hateful about logic. It’s simply about reality; in this case, a most uncomfortable aspect of reality. But comfort is not a criterion of truth.

    More and more R&R and Resistance people are embracing sede simply because of the inexorable logic of the situation, an epic con perpetrated anew and intensified with each passing day by Bergoglio and his fellow wolves masquerading as shepherds. It’s no accident that we were so strongly divinely warned against wolves masquerading as shepherds. 
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #57 on: July 28, 2021, 02:04:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: AspiringToHeaven on July 28, 2021, 01:43:51 PM
    It’s really as basic as this:

    If the Novus Ordo organization, now headed by Francis, is the actual Catholic Church, then the Church has defected. But we’ve been divinely assured that the Church cannot defect. Hence the Novus Ordo organization cannot possibly be the actual Catholic Church.
    Whatever it's called, it's not the Catholic Church.


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    More and more R&R and Resistance people are embracing sede simply because of the inexorable logic of the situation, an epic con perpetrated anew and intensified with each passing day by Bergoglio and his fellow wolves masquerading as shepherds. It’s no accident that we were so strongly divinely warned against wolves masquerading as shepherds.
    Very true, were were warned to beware of them, that's for sure. But the R&R are not going sede on account of logic, if that were the case they'd likely go NO or leave all religion. I say that because if, as sedes believe, that it is dogma that the pope is always infallibly safe to follow, then (Catholic) logic dictates only one thing, namely, that we all go the way of the NO.
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    Re: Sedevacantist Strutting
    « Reply #58 on: July 28, 2021, 02:12:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on July 27, 2021, 07:14:56 PM
    I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.
    :laugh2:
    I would be worried about you if you did.
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