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  • I was in a Church not long ago and the Real Presence was kind of there. .. well, you'd think it is either there or it isn't and  that's what I always thought, but the Presence was faint at that Church. That was creepy.

    But when you consider all the modernism that's going on. I don't have access to a traditional Church, to speak of. I mean when I say Traditional, I mean Latin Mass and ad orientum and etc...  

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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #1 on: July 31, 2017, 06:46:00 PM »
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  • This makes no sense.  Our Lord is either present or He is not.  His strength is Strength Itself with no levels of gradation.  Nothing personal, but you sound like a typical Novus Ordoite or a Protestant who mistakes feelings for faith.  It is not possible to determine God's Presence by how you "sense" Him.  My best guess, going on the only fact you provide, a novus ordo church, is that He is NOT present at all.  I base my logic upon fact and dogma.  
    Get for yourself the a Baltimore Catechism with the Scriptures, explanations, and exercises.  Do a self-guided course or find a tutor, maybe starting on this site.  Pray the Traditional Rosary every day.  If you don't have one or know it, get one and learn it.  Study your faith.  Stay home on Sunday and have a Holy Hour with a pre-VII missal.   
    Try to get in contact with a Traditional priest and Traditional Catholics.  If that is not possible, rely upon Our Lord and Our Lady.  
    There may well be others in your n.o. church who are searching, interested in Tradition.  Try to find them and team up.  Again, if you find yourself alone, accept it as God's Will.  He never abandons a soul who wants Him.  Trying to figure out if He is present or how strong He is, is a sidetrack to a dead end.  


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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #2 on: July 31, 2017, 06:56:32 PM »
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  • No.  The Real Presence wasn't there at all.  Anything you felt was in you, 

    Are you sure there is no traditional Mass available to you?  Have you checked the Lux Vera website?

    In the United States:  http://www.ecclesia.luxvera.org/Directory-USA.html

    Outside the United States:  http://www.ecclesia.luxvera.org/Directory-World.html

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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #3 on: August 01, 2017, 06:50:48 PM »
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  • This makes no sense.  Our Lord is either present or He is not.  His strength is Strength Itself with no levels of gradation.  Nothing personal, but you sound like a typical Novus Ordoite or a Protestant who mistakes feelings for faith. 
    you contradict yourself

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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #4 on: August 01, 2017, 06:51:09 PM »
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  • you either know he's there or you don't 


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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #5 on: August 01, 2017, 06:53:58 PM »
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  • We are not supposed to go by our "feelings", but rather by the teachings of the Church. 

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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #6 on: August 01, 2017, 06:58:14 PM »
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  • Allowing one's self to be led to believe something by one's 'feelings' is a Protestant error. Judging things by  putting our human emotions or intuitions in the foreground can lead to serious error. 

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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #7 on: August 02, 2017, 11:50:26 AM »
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  • Allowing one's self to be led to believe something by one's 'feelings' is a Protestant error. Judging things by  putting our human emotions or intuitions in the foreground can lead to serious error.
    who said anything about going by feelings?
    but if you can't "feel" Christ's Presence, maybe it is b/c  He is not there. The fake-secret-society-Catholic-hating "priests" remove Jesus from the tabernacles b/c they are trying to destroy the Church (they're just there to do what their hateful, lawless society tells them to do)
    if you can't feel JESUS's Presence, at least after sitting quietly for a few minutes, that means He is not there
    He is too powerful for us NOT to feel His Presence (which should go without saying)


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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #8 on: August 12, 2017, 01:38:28 PM »
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  • who said anything about going by feelings?
    but if you can't "feel" Christ's Presence, maybe it is b/c  He is not there. The fake-secret-society-Catholic-hating "priests" remove Jesus from the tabernacles b/c they are trying to destroy the Church (they're just there to do what their hateful, lawless society tells them to do)
    if you can't feel JESUS's Presence, at least after sitting quietly for a few minutes, that means He is not there.
    He is too powerful for us NOT to feel His Presence (which should go without saying)
    Where did you pick up that idea? It sounds Evangelical (in the Protestant sense). Many great saints suffered from aridity and didn't "feel" the presence of God. Just because you don't "feel" Jesus' presence doesn't mean it's not there, it just means that you don't perceive it, at least at that moment. That's where faith comes in. I get the "feeling that you are either young, poorly Catechized, a convert still attached to erroneous ideas, or a mixture of these.

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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #9 on: August 13, 2017, 09:59:40 AM »
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  • We know that Christ is present because the Priest is ordained, and the host was consecrated at Mass, not by feelings so much, even if you think you can sense something a little bit, we still know because of the reasons above.  God bless.

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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #10 on: August 13, 2017, 10:40:20 AM »
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  • who said anything about going by feelings?
    but if you can't "feel" Christ's Presence, maybe it is b/c  He is not there. The fake-secret-society-Catholic-hating "priests" remove Jesus from the tabernacles b/c they are trying to destroy the Church (they're just there to do what their hateful, lawless society tells them to do)
    if you can't feel JESUS's Presence, at least after sitting quietly for a few minutes, that means He is not there.
    He is too powerful for us NOT to feel His Presence (which should go without saying)
    Sensible devotion, if relied upon, is very dangerous for your devotion becomes contingent upon said sense. If the sense is absent as incentive, then the devotion goes with it because "there's nothing there" or "nobody's listening so why bother?" Outsides of some special grace, the only human persons that I regrettably know of who can detect consecrated/holy thing are hard core, dedicated theistic Satanists by whatever name and they do so by reflexive loathing/hatred/fear etc. Which comes in "handy" for their damnable pursuits. You don't  want to be that guy.


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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #11 on: August 13, 2017, 11:50:03 PM »
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  • I heard a story from a Priest some time ago.  This happened someplace in Asia.   A man went into a novus ordo church
    to pray.  He claimed that he heard a voice saying." I am not here, I am not here".   There was no other person inside
    the church.

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    Re: scary thing going on in the Church (Real Presence not strong)
    « Reply #12 on: August 14, 2017, 04:22:16 AM »
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  • I was in a Church not long ago and the Real Presence was kind of there. .. well, you'd think it is either there or it isn't and  that's what I always thought, but the Presence was faint at that Church. That was creepy.

    But when you consider all the modernism that's going on. I don't have access to a traditional Church, to speak of. I mean when I say Traditional, I mean Latin Mass and ad orientum and etc...  
    It could be that God is calling you to a greater holiness. When you don't feel the persence of Jesus in a Catholic church then it could be that Jesus is calling on you to believe with pure faith. That is I believe even though I don't feel it. The real presense is still there even though you don't feel it because the Catholic Faith is based on reality rather than just "Feelings."  

     

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