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Scapulars and surgery
« on: August 01, 2015, 03:00:35 PM »
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  • I am wondering what to do while undergoing surgery.  I want to keep my scapular on, but am afraid the surgeon will forbid it.  How have others handled the situation?


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    « Reply #1 on: August 01, 2015, 03:05:05 PM »
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  • Tell them if they do not allow you to wear a scapular you won't go to them for the surgery. Since this would cost them thousands of dollars, I bet they would let you wear a scapular if you insisted.


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    « Reply #2 on: August 01, 2015, 03:34:17 PM »
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  • Just had surgery last week.  No they will not let you wear it around your neck HOWEVER you are told to wear socks so I tucked mine in my sock.

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    « Reply #3 on: August 01, 2015, 04:29:13 PM »
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  • When I had heart bypass surgery, I wrapped my scapular around my wrist for the whole time I was in the hospital - they never took it off, not even for the surgery.

    That being said, I also had a priest and received the Sacrament of Extreme Unction the day I went into the hospital. If your surgery is a serious one, please, get yourself a priest before the surgery- if you want, PM me and let me know, I *will* get you one.  

     
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #4 on: August 01, 2015, 09:42:30 PM »
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  • Do you think this concern about wearing the scapular is scrupulous?


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    « Reply #5 on: August 01, 2015, 09:44:24 PM »
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    Do you think this concern about wearing the scapular is scrupulous?

    Well the promise is that those dying wearing the scapular will not suffer hellfire, so it seems like a good idea to wear the scapular when you are most likely to die.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 01, 2015, 11:17:09 PM »
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  • Trust me, the doctor probably wants you to go to Hell anyways so they will force you to remove a sacramental.


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    « Reply #7 on: August 02, 2015, 12:21:47 AM »
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  • I underwent major surgery last year and another exploratory examination earlier this year, and on both occasions I was allowed by the surgeon, anesthetist and nurses to wear my scapular.

    They don't have problems when they know it is made of cloth, however if it is laminated, then they will not allow it.

    Be firm....and don't waver.


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    « Reply #8 on: August 02, 2015, 12:32:03 AM »
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  • From my nursing training, when you check into a hospital for a procedure you agree to abide by their rules.  If you are told you can wear absolutely nothing, this is to maintain a sterile field and to be sure that they can perform emergency procedures on you without anything getting in the way.  

    You should ask your surgeon if you can wear the Scapular.  He/she might agree--but perhaps only to rest your mind.  Once you are under anesthesia, it might be removed and placed back on you before you awaken.  Same with socks.  They need to be able to see your toes to make sure your blood flow (oxygen) is going to all four extremities.  Socks are to help prevent you from slipping on the hospital floor.

    I had a procedure where I was extremely fearful because the doctor had made a sɛҳuąƖ pass at me when I was alone with him in the operating room the morning of the surgery.  I could not cancel the procedure, as it was vitally important that I have it and I had been prepped for it.  I wore the Scapular.  Even with all the people in the operating suite, I was still afraid because he was there.  I prayed for help as they put me on the table.  The last thing I heard before falling asleep was the anesthesiologist asking me, "Is that a Brown Scapular you're wearing?"  I replied, "Yes, it is."  Then I was unconscious.  My last thought was that Our Lady was with me, protecting me.

    WEAR THAT SCAPULAR!!  And wear one with fabric only--without any metal--you'll have a better chance of being allowed to keep it on.

    And remember, with your Will, you WANT to wear the Scapular.  Our Lady knows that.  What the docs do--She won't let them get in the way of Her promise.  It's not something you can control, so you cannot be held responsible.

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    « Reply #9 on: August 02, 2015, 10:27:44 PM »
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  • I agree with Stubborn if it's a procedure with general anesthesia ask if it can be worn around your wrist. You should have a consult with the anesthesiologist or CRNA before the surgery, tell them.

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    « Reply #10 on: August 02, 2015, 11:00:23 PM »
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    From my nursing training, when you check into a hospital for a procedure you agree to abide by their rules.  If you are told you can wear absolutely nothing, this is to maintain a sterile field and to be sure that they can perform emergency procedures on you without anything getting in the way.  

    You should ask your surgeon if you can wear the Scapular.  He/she might agree--but perhaps only to rest your mind.  Once you are under anesthesia, it might be removed and placed back on you before you awaken.  Same with socks.  They need to be able to see your toes to make sure your blood flow (oxygen) is going to all four extremities.  Socks are to help prevent you from slipping on the hospital floor.

    I had a procedure where I was extremely fearful because the doctor had made a sɛҳuąƖ pass at me when I was alone with him in the operating room the morning of the surgery.  I could not cancel the procedure, as it was vitally important that I have it and I had been prepped for it.  I wore the Scapular.  Even with all the people in the operating suite, I was still afraid because he was there.  I prayed for help as they put me on the table.  The last thing I heard before falling asleep was the anesthesiologist asking me, "Is that a Brown Scapular you're wearing?"  I replied, "Yes, it is."  Then I was unconscious.  My last thought was that Our Lady was with me, protecting me.

    WEAR THAT SCAPULAR!!  And wear one with fabric only--without any metal--you'll have a better chance of being allowed to keep it on.

    And remember, with your Will, you WANT to wear the Scapular.  Our Lady knows that.  What the docs do--She won't let them get in the way of Her promise.  It's not something you can control, so you cannot be held responsible.


    Since doctors perform abortions and nurses prep patients for abortion, it is safe to say that the majority of medical professionals want their patients to go to Hell.

    However, they want them to pay their medical bills first.