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Offline Gray2023

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Saying sorry discussion
« on: June 10, 2025, 06:50:16 AM »
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  • Good idea 2Vermont.

    I am going to try again, but slightly different.

    Here is maybe a helpful Novus Ordo article to start the conversation.

    https://catholicreview.org/this-lent-say-sorry-and-mean-it/

    What I want to discuss is the Catholic ideas on it?  When should one apologize?  How do you teach people to apologize?  Should we apologize more? Should we apologize less?

    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    « Reply #1 on: Today at 05:57:11 AM »
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  • Men, because they are figures of authority, should apologize less. A similar principle applies even more to the clergy.
    It is to maintain a certain dignity. Just as a child should apologize more, so should women apologize more.
    The occasions where a woman might apologize less would be where she is a mother. Same principle as above.

    Of course there is a delicate balance.

    But feminism has crept into the minds of everyone including trads, and the perennial problem with sin in all of us, seeks to divert responsibility and equivocate.
    Marriages are affected by this today.


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    Re: Saying sorry discussion
    « Reply #2 on: Today at 06:03:12 AM »
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  • In my own experience, I probably apologize two to three times more because I am at fault two times three times more (thank you, hormones).  I love apologizing, actually, because it’s very gratifying and demonstrates a willingness to do better.  My husband apologizes quite often too, and I must say, it penetrates deeply and it makes it oh so easy to forgive him.
    Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

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    Re: Saying sorry discussion
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  • I have been blessed to have a strong man for a husband who is capable of apologizing without thinking it somehow hinders his authority or diminishes his "dignity".  I respect him more for being able to humbly admit when he might be wrong.  He knows when he should apologize and when he does not need to do so.  As Catholics, we should all reflect on our behaviors and willingly apologize, when necessary.

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  • I have been blessed to have a strong man for a husband who is capable of apologizing without thinking it somehow hinders his authority or diminishes his "dignity".  I respect him more for being able to humbly admit when he might be wrong.  He knows when he should apologize and when he does not need to do so.  As Catholics, we should all reflect on our behaviors and willingly apologize, when necessary.

    Here we go. I was waiting for the entitle rattiness to emerge from somewhere.

    You're proving like many of the women on this forum exactly why women should not speak publicly.

    It is NOT YOUR PLACE to determine when your husband should and should not apologize. So BACK DOWN.

    You know full well that I never said that husbands should never apologize. But it struck a nerve clearly that there might be some areas where you dont have control. Your response sound much like that of a woman who is used to having control over a weak husband, and the very mention of marriages which are not as perverted as yours strikes you to your heart. But thats just a theory.

    You could prove me wrong by backing down and being humble and apologizing yourself right now.


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  • Here we go. I was waiting for the entitle rattiness to emerge from somewhere.

    You're proving like many of the women on this forum exactly why women should not speak publicly.

    It is NOT YOUR PLACE to determine when your husband should and should not apologize. So BACK DOWN.

    You know full well that I never said that husbands should never apologize. But it struck a nerve clearly that there might be some areas where you dont have control. Your response sound much like that of a woman who is used to having control over a weak husband, and the very mention of marriages which are not as perverted as yours strikes you to your heart. But thats just a theory.

    You could prove me wrong by backing down and being humble and apologizing yourself right now.
    I never said I determine when he should or should not apologize.  I clearly said HE knows when he should apologize, and that I respect him for doing so. Ready to humble yourself and apologize for misrepresenting what I said?  

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  • I never said I determine when he should or should not apologize.  I clearly said HE knows when he should apologize, and that I respect him for doing so. Ready to humble yourself and apologize for misrepresenting what I said? 

    There are lots of times when a husband might decide it would be counter productive to apologize.
    You brush that aside. And it doesnt matter anyway because you are a woman and not able to judge when that might be.
    Get off the internet and do us all a favor.

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  • I never said I determine when he should or should not apologize.  I clearly said HE knows when he should apologize, and that I respect him for doing so. Ready to humble yourself and apologize for misrepresenting what I said? 
    I guess not. 


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  • I guess not.

    Sisterhood activated.

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  • Here we go. I was waiting for the entitle rattiness to emerge from somewhere.

    You're proving like many of the women on this forum exactly why women should not speak publicly.

    It is NOT YOUR PLACE to determine when your husband should and should not apologize. So BACK DOWN.

    You know full well that I never said that husbands should never apologize. But it struck a nerve clearly that there might be some areas where you dont have control. Your response sound much like that of a woman who is used to having control over a weak husband, and the very mention of marriages which are not as perverted as yours strikes you to your heart. But thats just a theory.

    You could prove me wrong by backing down and being humble and apologizing yourself right now.
    I am returning to this post because I now see why you reacted the way you did.  My earlier post was not saying you said that husbands should never apologize.  But I was disagreeing with your use of the word "dignity".  I think that when those in authority DO apologize it creates MORE respect from those who are under the authority. I actually do not have an issue with the idea that those in authority apologize less often than those who are not.  That does make sense.  Fair enough?  Maybe if you re-read my earlier post, it might sound differently to you now. I still think you misrepresented it by saying I determine when or when not my husband should apologize.  

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  • I am returning to this post because I now see why you reacted the way you did.  My earlier post was not saying you said that husbands should never apologize.  But I was disagreeing with your use of the word "dignity".  I think that when those in authority DO apologize it creates MORE respect from those who are under the authority. I actually do not have an issue with the idea that those in authority apologize less often than those who are not.  That does make sense.  Fair enough?  Maybe if you re-read my earlier post, it might sound differently to you now. I still think you misrepresented it by saying I determine when or when not my husband should apologize. 
    Don’t waste your time justifying yourself to the troll, Croix.


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  • I am returning to this post because I now see why you reacted the way you did.  My earlier post was not saying you said that husbands should never apologize.  But I was disagreeing with your use of the word "dignity".  I think that when those in authority DO apologize it creates MORE respect from those who are under the authority. I actually do not have an issue with the idea that those in authority apologize less often than those who are not.  That does make sense.  Fair enough?  Maybe if you re-read my earlier post, it might sound differently to you now. I still think you misrepresented it by saying I determine when or when not my husband should apologize. 

    It is a double edged sword.
    Sometimes apologizing can give the appearance of weakness when those in authority need to show they are strong. Its not an absolute. Its just in nature.
    If any of us are honest, it would be weird for our fathers or our king to go around apologizing all the time.
    There's something inherently weak about it. So there is a line to be straddled.

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  • Don’t waste your time justifying yourself to the troll, Croix.

    No. Those who cause trouble by bringing feminism onto a traditional catholic forum are the trolls.

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  • It's not automatically a sin to hurt a woman's pride.  She might be hormonally insane and thinks she has a kitchen pass for acting any kinda way.  Being post-menopause has been the best thing that ever happened to my thinking.  I apologize probably 5 times as much as the men in my life.  Women commit sins of the tongue almost daily, excusing it "helping" or "guiding".  Since when do the stupid and blind lead the blind?  How many women have destroyed their marriages because "he ain't kissing me right" or a guy forgot a birthday?  

    I feel sorry for the men who are forced by their wives to read these threads to prove what a rotten husband he is.  Take care lest God remove this "stumbling block" from your life.  There are record numbers of thirsty and desperate women out there looking for a good man.  Better come down from your ivory tower before you lose your meal ticket and dish washer.

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  • Men apologize when they are factually wrong.  Women apologize when they hurt someone's feelings, regardless of facts.

    Men want an apology in order to correct a factual error.  Or to correct a lack of respect.
    Women want an apology when they feel hurt, which can only be known by each individual women, depending on the day and hour.

    Men and women apologize for completely different reasons.  There is no solution to these psychological differences.