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Re: Saint Martin de Porres, pray for us.
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2020, 03:32:39 PM »
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  • https://www.daily-prayers.org/novenas/saint-martin-de-porres/
    A nice article. Sadly, some (maybe only a few, I hope) trads here are racists, and as such they will be upset that a Black could become a saint. St. Martin de Porres was, above all, humble. He had great humility. That's something that trads could learn from, but sadly, probably won't happen. 

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    « Reply #3 on: April 15, 2020, 04:21:37 PM »
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  • A nice article. Sadly, some (maybe only a few, I hope) trads here are racists, and as such they will be upset that a Black could become a saint. St. Martin de Porres was, above all, humble. He had great humility. That's something that trads could learn from, but sadly, probably won't happen.
    There are several saints in the Eastern Catholic churches
    Although St. Moses the Ethiopian aka St. Moses the Black is a popular saint, St. Mary of Egypt may be considered to be a black saint.
    St. Moses was a former highwayman. He had a gang of thieves who murdered and stole the possessions of travelers. He and his band raided a monastery thinking to steal their food and treasures, but they offered him hospitality. He converted and became a monk, and then was elected abbot. When his monks informed him that a band of thieves was approaching the monastery, and urged him to hide, he refused, told his monks to find a way to safety, and then willingly accepted death in repentance for the horrible crimes he had committed in his own youth.
    There are many other Black saints. The Ethiopian eunuch baptized by St. Philip is one of many saints.

    https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/black-saints-ethiopian-eunuch

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    Re: Saint Martin de Porres, pray for us.
    « Reply #4 on: April 15, 2020, 04:34:11 PM »
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  • A nice article. Sadly, some (maybe only a few, I hope) trads here are racists, and as such they will be upset that a Black could become a saint. St. Martin de Porres was, above all, humble. He had great humility. That's something that trads could learn from, but sadly, probably won't happen.

    "Racism" is a concept invented by Jєωιѕн Marxists.

    Why should Catholics accept a moral category created by Christ's enemies? Why do you?


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    Re: Saint Martin de Porres, pray for us.
    « Reply #5 on: April 15, 2020, 05:25:04 PM »
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  • As much as I loathe the "Libs are the real racists" rhetoric so near and dear to "conservative" Boomers' hearts (further evidence of how deeply ingrained internalization of this Jєωιѕн Marxist moral category is among them), I must admit that there appears to be a kernel of truth to this phenomenon, inasmuch as those white-guilt-afflicted souls who bleat the loudest against "racism" appear to harbor a pity bordering on contempt for black people. 

    Dispassionately inform them of objective facts, like the gap in average measurable intelligence between the races, the disproportionate involvement Americans of sub-Saharan African descent have in the commission of violent crimes, etc. and they suddenly leap to the fore, volunteering some anecdote about some very smart / pious / virtuous black person that they know personally, or blurt out an entirely gratuitous and superfluous reminder that God loves black people too, and that the lowly negro is even in possession of an immortal soul and capable of becoming a canonized saint just like us real human beings, er white folk!

    Nobody suggested otherwise, my scrupulous friends. Perhaps the Boomer doth protest too much.

    I can only assume that their uncritical acceptance of "racism" as a real evil - a real, binding moral category, despite its having been invented in the 20th Century by Marxist Jews - has led to a prolonged condition of cognitive dissonance. Incapable of countenancing the possibility that the races are actually different and not wholly equal to each other in all conceivable categories, yet unable to entirely banish glaring facts to the contrary which are objectively, plainly true, they seems to project the mental distress caused by the contradictory cognitive states onto the poor blacks themselves: rushing in bounden duty to their defense, as though the mean old "racist" pointing out uncomfortable truths were some malevolent ogre, brutalizing a race seen by them as little more than helpless, retarded children. 

    White man's burden, I guess?

    For what it's worth to those fond of anecdotes - my own pious Maltese grandfather had an especial love and devotion to St. Martin de Porres. He also had a close friend who was an immigrant from Trinidad (perhaps having developed the devotion from this friendship - I don't know). And yet... his one biggest complaint about life in America was having to live and work with large numbers of blacks. He described his black coworkers as "foot shuffling deadwoods," decrying their behavior as lazy and shiftless. He found them grossly unintelligent, uncouth, quick to violence, and often reiterated that he'd rather live among Turks than blacks (a strong statement indeed coming from a Maltese). He never once felt the need to qualify these statements with any mealy-mouthed platitudes about "not all of them are bad," or "some of my best friends are black." In fact, he made many of these complaints directly to the Trinidadian friend! Did the latter excoriate my grandfather for his "racism?" Not at all! On the contrary, he tended to agree with him! 

    No, it fell to my grandfather's college-educated, holier-than-thou Boomer children to level that charge at him - along with that of being an "αnтι-ѕємιтє."

    Funny - I don't recall any of them having any black friends. Odd that the only ones in the family who did were the "racists" like my grandfather and me. Funny that.

    St. Martin de Porres, ora pro nobis.





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    Re: Saint Martin de Porres, pray for us.
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    Re: Saint Martin de Porres, pray for us.
    « Reply #7 on: April 15, 2020, 05:36:54 PM »
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  • I am the original OP.  This thread is about Saints.  

    Timing and context are everything though, aren't they, Ms. "Jesus was a Jew?"

    Refer to post #3 above. Blame the anti-racist crusader for derailing your thread, if indeed that wasn't you yourself (as you seem to be fond of the "Post Anonymously" option).


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    Re: Saint Martin de Porres, pray for us.
    « Reply #8 on: April 16, 2020, 12:53:15 AM »
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  • Let's not forget St Benedict il Moro:

    There is a saint called Benedict the Black. He was born a slave near Messina, Italy. He was freed by his master and became a solitary, eventually settling with other hermis at  Monte Pellegrino. He was made superior of the community, but when he was about thirty-eight, Pope Pius IV disbanded communities of solitaries and he became a Franciscan lay brother and the cook at St. Mary's convent near Palermo. He was appointed, against his will, superior of the convent when it opted for the reform, though he could neither read nor write. After serving as superior, he became  novice master but asked to be relieved of this post and return to his former position of cook. His holiness, reputation for miracles, and his fame as a confessor brought hordes of visitors to see the obscure and humble cook. He died at the convent, was canonized in 1807, and is the patron of Blacks in the United States. The surname "the Moor" is a misnomer originating from the Italian il moro (the black). His Feast day is April 4th.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Saint Martin de Porres, pray for us.
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  • Timing and context are everything though, aren't they, Ms. "Jesus was a Jew?"

    Refer to post #3 above. Blame the anti-racist crusader for derailing your thread, if indeed that wasn't you yourself (as you seem to be fond of the "Post Anonymously" option).
    Only liberals use the term “Ms.”  it’s MRS. for me.  

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    Re: Saint Martin de Porres, pray for us.
    « Reply #10 on: April 16, 2020, 09:59:46 AM »
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  • Again. This thread is about saints.  

    “All the evil in the world is because of lukewarm Catholics” St Pius X. 

    This is how we ended with wacky white “Catholics” like Peℓσѕι and Biden.  They took the silver to further exploit and profit from all people.   The hierarchy of the Catholic Church (mostly white and in a state of sodomy) has worked and is working with the communist democrat  party to brainwash and create neighborhoods  of poverty and violence.  Look at the rules for radicals.  Saul Alinsky was a deranged hateful white man.  


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    Re: Saint Martin de Porres, pray for us.
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  • Let's not forget St Benedict il Moro:

    There is a saint called Benedict the Black. He was born a slave near Messina, Italy. He was freed by his master and became a solitary, eventually settling with other hermis at  Monte Pellegrino. He was made superior of the community, but when he was about thirty-eight, Pope Pius IV disbanded communities of solitaries and he became a Franciscan lay brother and the cook at St. Mary's convent near Palermo. He was appointed, against his will, superior of the convent when it opted for the reform, though he could neither read nor write. After serving as superior, he became  novice master but asked to be relieved of this post and return to his former position of cook. His holiness, reputation for miracles, and his fame as a confessor brought hordes of visitors to see the obscure and humble cook. He died at the convent, was canonized in 1807, and is the patron of Blacks in the United States. The surname "the Moor" is a misnomer originating from the Italian il moro (the black). His Feast day is April 4th.
    Thank you, Nadir. 
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  • St. Josephine Bakhita
    For many years, Josephine Bakhita was a slave but her spirit was always free and eventually that spirit prevailed.
    Born in the Darfur region of southern Sudan, Josephine was kidnapped at the age of 7, sold into slavery and given the name Bakhita, which means fortunate. She was resold several times, finally in 1883 to Callisto Legnani, Italian consul in Khartoum, Sudan. Two years later, he took Josephine to Italy and gave her to his friend Augusto Michieli. Bakhita became babysitter to Mimmina Michieli, whom she accompanied to Venice’s Institute of the Catechumens, run by the Canossian Sisters. While Mimmina was being instructed, Josephine felt drawn to the Catholic Church. She was baptized and confirmed in 1890, taking the name Josephine. When the Michielis returned from Africa and wanted to take Mimmina and Josephine back with them, the future saint refused to go. During the ensuing court case, the Canossian Sisters and the patriarch of Venice intervened on Josephine’s behalf. The judge concluded that since slavery was illegal in Italy, she had actually been free since 1885. Josephine entered the Institute of St. Magdalene of Canossa in 1893 and made her profession three years later. She soon became well loved by the children attending the sisters’ school and the local citizens. She once said, “Be good, love the Lord, pray for those who do not know Him. What a great grace it is to know God!” The first steps toward her beatification began in 1959. She was beatified in 1992 and canonized eight years later.



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    Re: Saint Martin de Porres, pray for us.
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  • Only liberals use the term “Ms.”  it’s MRS. for me.  
    Silly me.

    Something in my subconscious must've associated that feminist less-than-honorific with the less-than-honorable usage of Our Lord's Blessed Name to play the Jew Card.