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Sadness in Heaven?
« on: December 14, 2013, 01:44:08 PM »
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  • Do you think it will be possible for a soul in Heaven to experience sadness?  For instance, if one's spouse or child is in hell?


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    Sadness in Heaven?
    « Reply #1 on: December 14, 2013, 01:51:44 PM »
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  • No. There is no sadness in Heaven.


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    Sadness in Heaven?
    « Reply #2 on: December 14, 2013, 05:13:58 PM »
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  • All mourning and weeping will no longer exist in Heaven.

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    Sadness in Heaven?
    « Reply #3 on: December 14, 2013, 06:45:48 PM »
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  • You will rejoice at God's justice being done upon them.

    "I come not to send peace but the sword..."

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    Sadness in Heaven?
    « Reply #4 on: December 14, 2013, 11:23:30 PM »
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  • It is a bit of a mystery how one could not be sad about the fate of the damned in Heaven, but our faith tells us that part of God's mercy is that we won't be.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    Sadness in Heaven?
    « Reply #5 on: December 15, 2013, 03:22:36 AM »
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  • "The wicked are all condemned to eternal punishment, and are punished for their own wickedness. Yet they will burn to some purpose, namely that the just may all both see in God the joys they receive, and perceive in them the torments they have escaped: for which reason they will acknowledge themselves for ever the debtors of Divine grace the more that they will see how the evils which they overcame by its assistance are punished eternally."

    Pope St. Gregory the Great

    'The reason why everlasting punishment appears hard and unjust to human ideas is because in this infirmity of our mortal state we have no adequate grasp of what exceeding high and pure wisdom which would enable us to form an idea of the enormity of man's first transgression. The higher man's enjoyment of God, the greater his impiety in forsaking God: destroying in himself a good gift that might have lasted for ever.'

    St. Augustine

    'The Blessed Virgin, one's guardian angel, all the saints, love a man, however wicked, as long as he lives on earth.

    But once he is condemned by God, then God's friends agree in God's judgment and condemnation. For all eternity they will not have a kind thought for this wretched soul. Rather they will be satisfied to see him in the flames as a victim of God's justice. ("The just shall rejoice when he shall see the revenge" - Ps. 57:11.)

    They will abhor him. A mother will look from paradise upon her own condemned son in hell without being moved, as though she had never known him. ("Better for him had he never been born" - Mk. 14:21).'

    St. Anthony Mary Claret

    'Mercy or compassion may be in a person in two ways: first by way of passion, secondly by way of choice.

    In the blessed there will be no passion in the lower powers except as a result of the reason's choice.

    Hence compassion or mercy will not be in them, except by the choice of reason . . . so long as sinners are in this world they are in such a state that without prejudice to the Divine justice they can be taken away from a state of unhappiness and sin to a state of happiness. Consequently it is possible to have compassion on them both by the choice of the will -- in which sense God, the angels and the blessed are said to pity them by desiring their salvation -- and by passion, in which way they are pitied by the good men who are in the state of wayfarers.

    But in the future state it will be impossible for them to be taken away from their unhappiness: and consequently it will not be possible to pity their sufferings according to right reason. Therefore the blessed in glory will have no pity on the damned.'

    St. Thomas Aquinas

    'That the saints may enjoy their beatitude and the grace of God more richly, a perfect sight of the punishment of the damned is granted them.'

    St. Thomas Aquinas
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    Sadness in Heaven?
    « Reply #6 on: December 15, 2013, 05:29:11 PM »
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  • It is somewhat distressing to me that if I saw my child in hell, that I would not be moved with pity, but I suppose God's justice is perfect...

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    Sadness in Heaven?
    « Reply #7 on: December 18, 2013, 05:00:47 PM »
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  • As is His mercy.  We can trust God to work it out.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir