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RIP Sister Anastasia
« on: January 23, 2022, 11:17:31 AM »
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  • Sister Anastasia, carmelite hermit, died last night, after many years of suffering, including lack of food and proper shelter.  

    Please pray for her soul, that God give her eternal reward in heaven.


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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #1 on: January 23, 2022, 11:21:23 AM »
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  • Where was this?


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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #2 on: January 23, 2022, 11:40:18 AM »
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  • Where was this?
    OLHC, Fr. Perez's and Fr. Starbuck's chapel in Garden Grove, CA.

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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #3 on: January 23, 2022, 12:33:43 PM »
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  • :pray:

    Please share some details about who she was and her circuмstances.

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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #4 on: January 23, 2022, 12:34:23 PM »
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  • OLHC, Fr. Perez's and Fr. Starbuck's chapel in Garden Grove, CA.

    So OLHC didn't provide her with food and shelter?


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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #5 on: January 23, 2022, 12:34:36 PM »
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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #6 on: January 23, 2022, 12:57:15 PM »
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  • So OLHC didn't provide her with food and shelter?
    correct.

    but she attended mass there for several years.  she sometimes spent the night inside the chapel, but many times slept on a bench outside the chapel.

    she often went without food for several days.

    Some say she wasn't a nun, but Fr. Strtenovic witnessed her final vows.

    She was the most kind and generous nun I have ever met.  A true carmelite.

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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #7 on: January 23, 2022, 01:07:16 PM »
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  • Something doesn't sound right here.

    I very much doubt this independent chapel starved out a Carmelite hermit.

    Did she just show up one day and expect to be clothed and fed?  Did the cchapel ever accept to take on that responsibility?  Why wasn't she in some traditional Carmelite convent or hermitage?  What is the history and background between the chapel and this alleged hermit?




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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #8 on: January 23, 2022, 02:09:01 PM »
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  • Sister Anastasia, carmelite hermit, died last night, after many years of suffering, including lack of food and proper shelter. 

    Please pray for her soul, that God give her eternal reward in heaven.
    Aww, may she rest in peace. Okay, something is making me go hmmmm... a few concerns here-hermits intentionally live a reclusive life, so she wouldn't be wanting palace necessities. However, because she was a nun, that puts her into a unique category. And because she was elderly, that puts her into another unique category again.

    She would fall into the category of widows and orphans by default. There is a much heavier obligation to assist such persons by the rest of us, and most especially, those in her immediate realm (ie. any living family members, or the Priest/s nearest her, the parishioners, state, etc.)

    IF nobody was assisting this poor woman? That is absolutely APPALLING. Because there is a heavier responsibility towards widows and orphans, there is also heavier punishment for failure to fulfill this. 

    IF this is true, (that she died in squalor or without basic sustenance?), that is a crime in many places. It would also likely fall into Elder Abuse. That is another legal issue. If CA is a "Duty to Report" State? Those that are/were responsible for her had a legal duty to report to authorities that this woman needed assistance. She would be considered a "vulnerable person" (like a minor child).

    SO...IF there is anyone where she lived that is not following their LEGAL responsibilities (never mind the moral and ethical ones)? They could be in big trouble. It would be the same "Duty to Report" by teachers, etc. if there was any suspected child abuse going on in the case of a minor student. The teacher would be bound to report it to authorities.

    So IF there are teachers down there not doing their jobs, and Priests not being properly vetted to work with minors, and nobody is properly looking after the widows and orphans there? Etc.

    Evil. Pure Evil. I would not put kids near 1000 miles of such a place, nor would I attend Mass there, and nor would I affiliate with any such parishioners or staff that are so apparently negligent and incompetent in so many areas, not the least of which is basic common sense. It sounds like there are many people lacking brains and intelligence in that place and are highly unqualified to be in any positions of authority over children, the elderly, etc.

    That place needs to be burned down or demolished or something. There is something VERY wrong. WHERE IS THE EMPATHY?? I wouldn't trust ANYONE from that place to walk my dog. (If they couldn't handle looking after a dog, there is no way I would trust them with a child, (nor another vulnerable person) that's the principle involved. If someone treats animals like garbage, they aren't going to treat children or people any better). 

    Sociopath/Psychopath test #1. "Do they have empathy for others?" No? Red flag. If you see a child treating animals like garbage, you probably have at least a sociopath (if not a psychopath) on your hands. If you see an adult treating animals like garbage? RUN! 

    God help the homeless and destitute in that state (CA) IF this is how ordinary Catholics act there in looking after their own kind. Crazy! Corporal Works of Mercy is Elementary School Catechism! We actually have to DO THEM!

    May God have mercy on us all. May this poor nun rest in peace. Thank-you, God for all the blessings and graces I have received. I am sorry Sister Anastasia that you were failed by so many people.


    :'( :pray:
    P.S. And if you have never worked with the homeless, addicts, mentally ill or destitute (or some combination of these) to help in the flesh? Then you need to pray extra hard for not helping them. Sitting around and boasting of being Traditional Catholics is only a label. Anyone can call themselves anything. Disturbing. Very disturbing to read this.


    Thank-you to whomever posted this. You obviously have a good heart. God bless you.


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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #9 on: January 23, 2022, 02:16:40 PM »
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  • OLHC, Fr. Perez's and Fr. Starbuck's chapel in Garden Grove, CA.
    The last month or so Sister Anastasia was at the indult Mass at the San Juan Capistrano Mission.

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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #10 on: January 23, 2022, 02:58:14 PM »
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  • I sense that we’re missing some important aspects of this story.


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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #11 on: January 23, 2022, 04:32:39 PM »
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  • 1. Fr. S couldn't have witnessed her final vows as a Carmelite hermit since he isn't a Carmelite.  How can someone who isn't a member of an order welcome someone into that order?  Makes no sense.  I'm surprised that Fr. didn't know this!!!
    2. Why would a hermit need a car?
    3. OLHC has a house for the nuns.  Why wasn't she there?  I believe that there's another nun there being housed & fed.
    4. Sr. A's real name is Debbie - can't remember her last name - would have to look it up.  Might be Ross?
    5. If I remember correctly, she's from Camarillo or some place north of LA.  She's divorced & has 2 sons.  Is her ex still living?  Her sons should have been contacted.
    6.  She has a long history of coming & going to OLHC.  She tried SSPX but didn't last long as she had to work - so I heard.  Came back to OLHC & then tried a convent in Chicago - would have to look up the name.  It has a mother house in Europe & one in Chicago. Left, came back to OLHC & went to Quito, left & returned to OLHC. Didn't Fr. S visit her there in Quito?  I think there was another convent in the mix but I'd have to dig it up.  At one point she had her own get-up as a nun - quite the sight!
    7. At one point she stayed with a woman in Fountain Valley.
    8. So, yes, there's more to this story.  Hard to remember all the details.
    9. All this was common knowledge FOR YEARS.

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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #12 on: January 23, 2022, 05:23:12 PM »
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  • 1. Fr. S couldn't have witnessed her final vows as a Carmelite hermit since he isn't a Carmelite.  How can someone who isn't a member of an order welcome someone into that order?  Makes no sense.  I'm surprised that Fr. didn't know this!!!
    2. Why would a hermit need a car?
    3. OLHC has a house for the nuns.  Why wasn't she there?  I believe that there's another nun there being housed & fed.
    4. Sr. A's real name is Debbie - can't remember her last name - would have to look it up.  Might be Ross?
    5. If I remember correctly, she's from Camarillo or some place north of LA.  She's divorced & has 2 sons.  Is her ex still living?  Her sons should have been contacted.
    6.  She has a long history of coming & going to OLHC.  She tried SSPX but didn't last long as she had to work - so I heard.  Came back to OLHC & then tried a convent in Chicago - would have to look up the name.  It has a mother house in Europe & one in Chicago. Left, came back to OLHC & went to Quito, left & returned to OLHC. Didn't Fr. S visit her there in Quito?  I think there was another convent in the mix but I'd have to dig it up.  At one point she had her own get-up as a nun - quite the sight!
    7. At one point she stayed with a woman in Fountain Valley.
    8. So, yes, there's more to this story.  Hard to remember all the details.
    9. All this was common knowledge FOR YEARS.

    That's quite the story.  God willing she recieved valid sacraments by the end and is off to her reward right now.  May she RIP.

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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #13 on: January 23, 2022, 07:27:07 PM »
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  • Are you implying that I made all this up to entertain?  Perhaps you weren't - so yes, it's quite the story. PS - she's not a Sister.  To call her a Sister is to make a mockery of real Sisters.

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    Re: RIP Sister Anastasia
    « Reply #14 on: January 23, 2022, 09:21:56 PM »
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  • Aww, may she rest in peace. Okay, something is making me go hmmmm... a few concerns here-hermits intentionally live a reclusive life, so she wouldn't be wanting palace necessities. However, because she was a nun, that puts her into a unique category. And because she was elderly, that puts her into another unique category again.

    She would fall into the category of widows and orphans by default. There is a much heavier obligation to assist such persons by the rest of us, and most especially, those in her immediate realm (ie. any living family members, or the Priest/s nearest her, the parishioners, state, etc.)

    IF nobody was assisting this poor woman? That is absolutely APPALLING. Because there is a heavier responsibility towards widows and orphans, there is also heavier punishment for failure to fulfill this.

    IF this is true, (that she died in squalor or without basic sustenance?), that is a crime in many places. It would also likely fall into Elder Abuse. That is another legal issue. If CA is a "Duty to Report" State? Those that are/were responsible for her had a legal duty to report to authorities that this woman needed assistance. She would be considered a "vulnerable person" (like a minor child).

    SO...IF there is anyone where she lived that is not following their LEGAL responsibilities (never mind the moral and ethical ones)? They could be in big trouble. It would be the same "Duty to Report" by teachers, etc. if there was any suspected child abuse going on in the case of a minor student. The teacher would be bound to report it to authorities.

    So IF there are teachers down there not doing their jobs, and Priests not being properly vetted to work with minors, and nobody is properly looking after the widows and orphans there? Etc.

    Evil. Pure Evil. I would not put kids near 1000 miles of such a place, nor would I attend Mass there, and nor would I affiliate with any such parishioners or staff that are so apparently negligent and incompetent in so many areas, not the least of which is basic common sense. It sounds like there are many people lacking brains and intelligence in that place and are highly unqualified to be in any positions of authority over children, the elderly, etc.

    That place needs to be burned down or demolished or something. There is something VERY wrong. WHERE IS THE EMPATHY?? I wouldn't trust ANYONE from that place to walk my dog. (If they couldn't handle looking after a dog, there is no way I would trust them with a child, (nor another vulnerable person) that's the principle involved. If someone treats animals like garbage, they aren't going to treat children or people any better).

    Sociopath/Psychopath test #1. "Do they have empathy for others?" No? Red flag. If you see a child treating animals like garbage, you probably have at least a sociopath (if not a psychopath) on your hands. If you see an adult treating animals like garbage? RUN!

    God help the homeless and destitute in that state (CA) IF this is how ordinary Catholics act there in looking after their own kind. Crazy! Corporal Works of Mercy is Elementary School Catechism! We actually have to DO THEM!

    May God have mercy on us all. May this poor nun rest in peace. Thank-you, God for all the blessings and graces I have received. I am sorry Sister Anastasia that you were failed by so many people.


    :'( :pray:
    P.S. And if you have never worked with the homeless, addicts, mentally ill or destitute (or some combination of these) to help in the flesh? Then you need to pray extra hard for not helping them. Sitting around and boasting of being Traditional Catholics is only a label. Anyone can call themselves anything. Disturbing. Very disturbing to read this.


    Thank-you to whomever posted this. You obviously have a good heart. God bless you.
    You are so right  Anne.
    She was wonderful to those who took the time to know her.  She was loved by some.