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Offline ralgul

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Re: Is it ok to eat vegan hot dogs on fast days?
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2020, 01:00:08 AM »
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  • There's absolutely no animal products in vegan food, so you're not violating Lent by eating vegan hot dogs.

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    Re: Is it ok to eat vegan hot dogs on fast days?
    « Reply #16 on: February 28, 2020, 06:28:31 PM »
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  • Vegan meat substitutes are mostly soy and have high estrogen-like compounds.  Would advise against it ... especially if you're a man.  But otherwise quite licit.
    Saw this yesterday. No soy in Beyond Meat.


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    Re: Is it ok to eat vegan hot dogs on fast days?
    « Reply #17 on: March 21, 2020, 12:17:31 PM »
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  • Should Catholics Consume Artificial Meat on Abstinence Days?
    November 20, 2019
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    For Latin Catholics 14 years or older, abstinence from meat is called for on certain days of the liturgical year: Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, and all the Fridays in Lent. Those belonging to one of the autonomous Eastern Catholic churches (such as the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church) are typically bound by more exacting abstinence standards depending on local rules and customs. Moreover, many traditional Catholics observe the Church’s historic prescription to abstain on all Fridays, Ember Days, and Rogation Days.

    So what is a faithful Catholic to do in the age of artificial meat products such as Burger King’s so-called “Impossible Whopper”? Is it permissible to consume these items and still hold to the Church’s laws on abstinence?

    The Simple Answer

    The simple answer to the question of whether a Catholic may licitly consume artificial meat products on abstinence days is, “Yes.” Soy chorizo, despite being an abomination in the eyes of the Lord, contains as much swine as a bowl full of kale.

    Historically, the line between which animals are “meat” (which is forbidden) and which are “seafood” (which is generally permitted) was not always clear. In 17th Century Quebec, for instance, Catholics could consume beaver on Fridays, likely because the animal’s habitat was considered dispositive for classification purposes. That practice would likely be frowned upon today.

    The Better Answer

    Although no Catholic is, sensu stricto, violating the law of abstinence by eating an Impossible Whopper on Ash Wednesday, it is important to remember the historic relationship between fasting and abstinence and almsgiving. The penitential periods and days of the Church were deemed times when Christians should take the money saved on food and distribute it to the poor.

    In the contemporary world, most meat is not considered the delicacy it once was and products such as ham, chicken, and turkey are widely available. Somewhat ironically, however, soy and other plant-based variants of meat products typically cost more than the real deal, leading consumers to expend more money on these substitutes.

    Arguably, a Catholic who intentionally seeks these artificial meat products out in the name of adhering to the letter of the law are violating its spirit. It would therefore behoove Catholics to reflect on why they are purchasing an $8.00 box of soy chicken nuggets on Fridays when a can of tuna fish is available for a dollar. Further, with respect to the ascetic dimension of abstinence, that is all but obliterated when meat is replaced by near-identical substitutes.

    As always, any Catholic concerned with consuming artificial meat on abstinence days should consult their parish priest or confessor for guidance.  

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    Re: Is it ok to eat vegan hot dogs on fast days?
    « Reply #18 on: March 29, 2020, 12:02:12 AM »
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  • In my opinion I think it is no ok to eat vegan hot dogs or hamburgers on days of abstinence or fast days, 

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    Re: Is it ok to eat vegan hot dogs on fast days?
    « Reply #19 on: March 29, 2020, 12:30:36 AM »
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  • Artificial "meat" is not meat. It's simple common sense.
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    Re: Is it ok to eat vegan hot dogs on fast days?
    « Reply #20 on: March 29, 2020, 08:12:21 AM »
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  • In my opinion I think it is no ok to eat vegan hot dogs or hamburgers on days of abstinence or fast days,

    You're blurring things with the use of the term "OK".  Is it sinful?  No.  Is it ideal?  Perhaps not.  We need to realize that the primary mortification of fasting is in the WILL, in obedience to the Church.  If a person avoids a real Whopper and gets an Impossible Whopper instead, in order to obey the Church, the person is still making a mortification of His will, and it is in the will (rather than in the tastebuds) that all sin resides.  Mortification of the WILL is the mortification of all mortifications.  So, for instance, eating $20/pound salmon might not be ideal either, but no one has every accused someone of sinning by doing so.  As with all things related to the spiritual life, we must always be careful to distinguish between sin (in the will) and an imperfection (lower than the will).

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    Re: Is it ok to eat vegan hot dogs on fast days?
    « Reply #21 on: March 29, 2020, 08:52:07 AM »
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  • There's absolutely no animal products in vegan food, so you're not violating Lent by eating vegan hot dogs.
    Exactly. Just because vegetable protein is formed in the shape of meat, doesn't make it meat.