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Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
« on: August 30, 2021, 02:36:38 PM »
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    • From an email I received:


    TO  WHOM  IT  MAY  CONCERN


    The consecration of Fr Rodrigo  da Silva as a bishop is a potential disaster. He can absolutely not be counted on to make a truly Catholic use of the tremendous powers of a Catholic bishop. Heaven only knows how he will profit by them to mislead and scandalise the flock of Our Lord.

    I have mainly myself to blame for his ordination as a priest. I can only blame myself for having failed to discern what he was up to. Within a few months of his ordination he showed his true colours, a personal ambition to serve his own glory.  Whoever consecrates him  as bishop incurs a grave responsibility before the Church and before God.   Caveat Consecrator !

                                    [color=var(--interaction-norm)]+Bishop Richard Williamson[/email]  [/font][/size][/color]

                                                                    Broadstairs, England, August 30, 2021
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #1 on: August 30, 2021, 02:50:48 PM »
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    • Leaving the instability aside, it strikes me as strange that Bishop Dolan would consecrate one so inexperienced in sedevacantism (3 years), and more importantly, only 3.5 years of priesthood.

    Was Fr. Ribeiro really the best they could scrounge up for South America?
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #2 on: August 30, 2021, 02:59:28 PM »
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    • He is the new Fr. Pfeiffer of South America. 

    The arrogance of pretending to be able to run a seminary with only three years of priesthood (less when he opened it), and little outside help is a major red flag.

    Having a coat of arms as a priest was another curiosity hinting at pride and arrogance.

    In three years, he will outweigh Fr. Pfeiffer.
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #3 on: August 30, 2021, 03:02:32 PM »
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    • Wanting the red buttons:

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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #4 on: August 30, 2021, 03:03:45 PM »
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #5 on: August 30, 2021, 03:17:17 PM »
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    • At least they waited for him to turn 30 

    :facepalm:

    From his seminary website:


    “Rector
    Father Rodrigo da Silva
    Father Rodrigo Henrique Ribeiro da Silva was born on February 18, 1991 in Recife-Pernambuco. He began his preparation for priesthood in 2006 in the Minor Seminary of the Archdiocese of Olinda and Recife. He continued his studies in the Traditionalist Benedictine Monastery of Nova Friburgo and in the Seminary São Luís Maria Grignion de Montfort (SAJM) in France. Upon completion of his theological studies, he was ordained a priest by Bishop Richard Nelson Williamson on December 23, 2017 at the Monastery of the Holy Cross in New Fribourg.
     
    During the exercise of his first months of priesthood, he came across the problem of the Missa una cuм and through this and other studies on the nature and properties of Christ's Church he became convinced that the only acceptable position in the context of post Vatican II apostasy would be the sedevacantist position.
     
    As of July 2018 the Reverend Father was assisted by Bishop Dolan, with whom he met in person in October 2018 in Argentina. During his interview with the bishop, Father Rodrigo da Silva introduced him to some candidates for the priesthood and religious life who also adhered to the sedevacantist position. Monsignor Daniel Dolan then proposed the foundation of a pre-Seminary in Brazil under the direction of Father Rodrigo, who currently holds the position of Rector of the São José Seminary, in addition to maintaining an intense apostolate on behalf of Catholic families with missions and Mass centers spread throughout Brazil.”
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #6 on: August 30, 2021, 03:20:54 PM »
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    • Novus Ordo canonical requirements for Bishop:

    “Bishops are required to be 35 years old, ordained at least five years prior and hold a doctorate in theology.”

    Fr. Ribeiro whiffs on all three requirements.

    What is Bishop Dolan doing??

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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #7 on: August 30, 2021, 03:30:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 30, 2021, 02:59:28 PM
    He is the new Fr. Pfeiffer of South America.

    The arrogance of pretending to be able to run a seminary with only three years of priesthood (less when he opened it), and little outside help is a major red flag.

    Having a coat of arms as a priest was another curiosity hinting at pride and arrogance.

    In three years, he will outweigh Fr. Pfeiffer.
    I mean it’s easy to just say stuff when you don’t know anything at all. Has anyone ever visited his seminary? I have. What are the circuмstances of his seminary? Who asked him to open it? Who teaches in it? I would hope I could answer those questions before comparing his work to that of Fr. Pfeiffer. 3 years or thirty years. He’s still a priest. That used to be something people respected. 
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #8 on: August 30, 2021, 03:31:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 30, 2021, 02:36:38 PM
    From an email I received:


    TO  WHOM  IT  MAY  CONCERN


    The consecration of Fr Rodrigo  da Silva as a bishop is a potential disaster. He can absolutely not be counted on to make a truly Catholic use of the tremendous powers of a Catholic bishop. Heaven only knows how he will profit by them to mislead and scandalise the flock of Our Lord.

    I have mainly myself to blame for his ordination as a priest. I can only blame myself for having failed to discern what he was up to. Within a few months of his ordination he showed his true colours, a personal ambition to serve his own glory.  Whoever consecrates him  as bishop incurs a grave responsibility before the Church and before God.   Caveat Consecrator !

                                   [color=var(--interaction-norm)]+Bishop Richard Williamson[/email]  [/font][/size][/color]

                                                                   Broadstairs, England, August 30, 2021

    If I were Bishop Williamson, I wouldn’t beat myself up too much about having been used for ordination.  It happened to Archbishop Lefebvre too (with the priest leaving to join the 9 a day or two after ordination).  Likely as not, had he been refused by Williamson, he’d have sought out a sedevacantist Bishop to ordain him anyway.
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #9 on: August 30, 2021, 03:38:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 30, 2021, 02:36:38 PM
    From an email I received:


    TO  WHOM  IT  MAY  CONCERN


    The consecration of Fr Rodrigo  da Silva as a bishop is a potential disaster. He can absolutely not be counted on to make a truly Catholic use of the tremendous powers of a Catholic bishop. Heaven only knows how he will profit by them to mislead and scandalise the flock of Our Lord.

    I have mainly myself to blame for his ordination as a priest. I can only blame myself for having failed to discern what he was up to. Within a few months of his ordination he showed his true colours, a personal ambition to serve his own glory.  Whoever consecrates him  as bishop incurs a grave responsibility before the Church and before God.   Caveat Consecrator !

                                   [color=var(--interaction-norm)]+Bishop Richard Williamson[/email]  [/font][/size][/color]

                                                                   Broadstairs, England, August 30, 2021
    Well, to put it into perspective - Archbishop Lefebvre also consecrated men who later went off the rails into sedevacantism. It happens. 
    It's good that +W admits he was wrong to ordain da Silva. How many bishops out there 'fess up to doing something wrong? Very few. 
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    +W did not, at that time discern what da Silva was up to. Some men, such as da Silva, cloak their true intentions very well. 
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #10 on: August 30, 2021, 04:31:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 30, 2021, 03:20:54 PM
    Novus Ordo canonical requirements for Bishop:

    “Bishops are required to be 35 years old, ordained at least five years prior and hold a doctorate in theology.”

    Fr. Ribeiro whiffs on all three requirements.

    What is Bishop Dolan doing??


    Is there any other trad bishop holding a ThD? Williamson, Tissier, ... ?
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #11 on: August 30, 2021, 04:42:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 30, 2021, 04:31:18 PM

    Is there any other trad bishop holding a ThD? Williamson, Tissier, ... ?

    Vigano.
    As regards the Resistance and main sede bishops, at least they were 35 and had more than 5 yrs of priesthood (“2 out of 3 ain’t bad” -Meatloaf).
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #12 on: August 30, 2021, 04:49:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 30, 2021, 03:20:54 PM
    Novus Ordo canonical requirements for Bishop:

    “Bishops are required to be 35 years old, ordained at least five years prior and hold a doctorate in theology.”
    Were the old requirements the same as the new?
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #13 on: August 30, 2021, 05:10:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 30, 2021, 04:49:14 PM
    Were the old requirements the same as the new?
    No, back then you only had to be 30 (see “Bishop” in the Catholic Encyclopedia.  Of course, 14 year-old girls could marry 30 year-old men back then too (different era).
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    Re: Regarding the Consecration of Fr. Ribeiro
    « Reply #14 on: August 30, 2021, 05:12:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on August 30, 2021, 05:10:09 PM
    No, back then you only had to be 30 (see “Bishop” in the Catholic Encyclopedia.  Of course, 14 year-old girls could marry 30 year-old men back then too (different era).
    Bishop Fellay was barely 30 when consecrated.
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