Author Topic: Re-confessing sins that have been confessed in the New Rite (Read 17761 times)

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #55 on:** April 18, 2024, 01:10:58 PM »

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Why is this even being argued about. The Church teaches clearly that for one to be guilty of mortal sin there needs to be (1) sufficient knowledge and (2) consent in committing a grave act (3). You can find this in catechisms and in prayer books under examination of conscience / preparation for Confession. If you disagree that insufficient knowledge renders the sin venial for that person, you are literally disagreeing with the Church.

Catechisms provide a 3rd-grade level view of the Faith. Adult life is more complex.

A child cannot be guilty of ignorance because they only know what others teach them. Adults have a duty to learn their Faith. If they don't know something, they can't claim ignorance, it's their fault.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #56 on:** April 19, 2024, 08:12:48 PM »

Quote from: Giovanni Berto on April 17, 2024, 09:21:09 AM

For the anonymous who quoted "the new CCC":

This is not a real Catholic catechism. This is the Novus Ordo catechism. People won't take your arguments seriously if you quote Modernist books, and you take a serious risk of learning some grave errors by reading this horrible books.

Be aware of Modernism.

I quoted the CCC to show that even the new church has something right. This idea that you cannot commit mortal sins if you are ignorant is not logical. It's like that meme of the Eskimo who says why did you tell me about God if I am condemned? Why bother educating people about sin if their ignorance keeps them from mortal sin. It also appears contrary to scripture, St Paul says drunkards will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Yet most people do not know that drunkenness is a sin, surely these people will be condemned for their drunkenness and their ignorance won't change that?

Quo vadis Domine · « **Reply #57 on:** April 19, 2024, 08:30:35 PM »

Quote from: Änσnymσus on April 19, 2024, 08:12:48 PM

I quoted the CCC to show that even the new church has something right. This idea that you cannot commit mortal sins if you are ignorant is not logical. It's like that meme of the Eskimo who says why did you tell me about God if I am condemned? Why bother educating people about sin if their ignorance keeps them from mortal sin. It also appears contrary to scripture, St Paul says drunkards will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Yet most people do not know that drunkenness is a sin, surely these people will be condemned for their drunkenness and their ignorance won't change that?

If I forgot it was Friday and had ham for breakfast did I commit a sin?

Quo vadis Domine · « **Reply #58 on:** April 19, 2024, 08:53:15 PM »

Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on April 19, 2024, 08:30:35 PM

If I forgot it was Friday and had ham for breakfast did I commit a sin?

To expand on this, was the sin (if committed) mortal or venial?

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #59 on:** April 19, 2024, 09:50:56 PM »

Stupid example, QVD. If you “forgot” then that means you knew the law. The debate is over people who don’t know (or care) about church law.

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Author Topic: Re-confessing sins that have been confessed in the New Rite (Read 17761 times)

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