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Title: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 01:17:53 AM
I recently saw an image with animate objects (no people or people like) that were connected to each other, at first glance it seemed normal, but facial expressions were edited on to make it seem impure. Is looking at such images a sin?

Also if someone draws stick figures doing 'poses' is this pornographic?

What about when people make/say sɛҳuąƖ innuendos?
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 01:30:14 AM
Always reject anything impure and you'll be fine. And don't seek it out of course. And when possible, show disapproval to others when they introduce such garbage to your eyes.
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 02:12:11 AM
Always reject anything impure and you'll be fine. And don't seek it out of course. And when possible, show disapproval to others when they introduce such garbage to your eyes.
I struggle with vain curiosity, I don't really fall into lust when I see impure images, even when I am out in public if I see a women's rump in inappropriate clothing then I might think/feel in my mind the word 'nice' but I don't feel lust if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 04:02:24 AM
I struggle with vain curiosity, I don't really fall into lust when I see impure images, even when I am out in public if I see a women's rump in inappropriate clothing then I might think/feel in my mind the word 'nice' but I don't feel lust if that makes sense.
If you struggle with vain curiosity, then you should not just randomly look up things on the internet. Every time you want to go look at something, say a prayer instead.

Good you don't lust, bad you give into vain curiosity, which distracts you from your duty of state.
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 05:56:27 AM
If you struggle with vain curiosity, then you should not just randomly look up things on the internet. Every time you want to go look at something, say a prayer instead.

Good you don't lust, bad you give into vain curiosity, which distracts you from your duty of state.
Other then work and prayers I don't really have much to do as a single guy 
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 06:39:40 AM
I recently saw an image with animate objects (no people or people like) that were connected to each other, at first glance it seemed normal, but facial expressions were edited on to make it seem impure. Is looking at such images a sin?

Also if someone draws stick figures doing 'poses' is this pornographic?

What about when people make/say sɛҳuąƖ innuendos?
Those are not a sin yet, but they can lead to sinful thoughts and desires if you keep on playing with it or let it increase your curiosity to look at actual impure images. if you continue to look at these silly images voluntarily, now that you know it bothers you, then you will be putting yourself at risk for a fall into sin. God has given you the grace to see that this is a trap, take the warning and move onto something productive.
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 07:13:23 AM
Those are not a sin yet, but they can lead to sinful thoughts and desires if you keep on playing with it or let it increase your curiosity to look at actual impure images. if you continue to look at these silly images voluntarily, now that you know it bothers you, then you will be putting yourself at risk for a fall into sin. God has given you the grace to see that this is a trap, take the warning and move onto something productive.
Would it be a mortal sin if the impure image would be hardcore porn if it was people instead of inanimate objects?
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: WorldsAway on May 23, 2025, 07:20:30 AM
Would it be a mortal sin if the impure image would be hardcore porn if it was people instead of inanimate objects?
If you deliberately viewed pornography knowing that it was pornography, I would think so. If it was something you accidentally came across, or a pop-up ad, or something sent to you unsolicited that is a different matter. You should do your best in avoiding any sites that may contain occasions of sin
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 07:22:10 AM
Other then work and prayers I don't really have much to do as a single guy
Then maybe you need to find a hobby?  Something to do away from work and praying, that is not on the internet.
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 08:36:37 AM
Would it be a mortal sin if the impure image would be hardcore porn if it was people instead of inanimate objects?
Yes, you voluntarily seek and look at those images, But, if by accident or curiosity you take a peek to see if it was really porn, then no, but once you realize what it is, you must turn away. If your body begins to feel pleasure, then you must not consent and make an active motion to look away and reject such images. But you keep putting yourself in occasions where you will be exposed to these images, then it will be a sin. 

For you, use the internet very little and only for specific websites for a specific purpose, no web surfing.
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: jersey60 on May 23, 2025, 09:53:32 AM
Yes, you voluntarily seek and look at those images, But, if by accident or curiosity you take a peek to see if it was really porn, then no, but once you realize what it is, you must turn away. If your body begins to feel pleasure, then you must not consent and make an active motion to look away and reject such images. But you keep putting yourself in occasions where you will be exposed to these images, then it will be a sin.

For you, use the internet very little and only for specific websites for a specific purpose, no web surfing.
Well put!
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 09:55:01 AM
Always reject anything impure and you'll be fine. And don't seek it out of course. And when possible, show disapproval to others when they introduce such garbage to your eyes.
We're surrounded by it but always be ready to fight!
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 10:20:44 AM
Yes, you voluntarily seek and look at those images, But, if by accident or curiosity you take a peek to see if it was really porn, then no, but once you realize what it is, you must turn away. If your body begins to feel pleasure, then you must not consent and make an active motion to look away and reject such images. But you keep putting yourself in occasions where you will be exposed to these images, then it will be a sin.

For you, use the internet very little and only for specific websites for a specific purpose, no web surfing.
Don't internet browsers have filters that the OP could use to avoid these sorts of images?
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 10:52:18 AM
Don’t read into such things, but if it happens by chance, reject the thought. There is no sin. If you can’t seem to help but interpret things this way, speak to your priest. 
If an “artist” deliberately creates to elicit obscene thoughts in the mind, count it as pornography because if it’s on purpose, it is pornography.  
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Stubborn on May 23, 2025, 11:14:59 AM
I recently saw an image with animate objects (no people or people like) that were connected to each other, at first glance it seemed normal, but facial expressions were edited on to make it seem impure. Is looking at such images a sin?

Also if someone draws stick figures doing 'poses' is this pornographic?

What about when people make/say sɛҳuąƖ innuendos?

I think it's one of the things St. Paul condemns. What you are describing is vulgarity, St. Paul calls it "Scurrility." Scurrility is smutty conversations and jokes, where people reference obscene or sinful things, (usually sɛҳuąƖ) without actually saying what is meant, but everyone knows what is really meant. St. Paul tells us to have nothing to do with that.

Eph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as most dear children;  2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath delivered himself for us, an oblation and a sacrifice to God for an odour of sweetness.  3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not so much as be named among you, as becometh saints:  4 Or obscenity, or foolish talking, or scurrility, which is to no purpose; but rather giving of thanks.  5 For know you this and understand, that no fornicator, or unclean, or covetous person (which is a serving of idols), hath inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 04:39:32 PM
I think it's one of the things St. Paul condemns. What you are describing is vulgarity, St. Paul calls it "Scurrility." Scurrility is smutty conversations and jokes, where people reference obscene or sinful things, (usually sɛҳuąƖ) without actually saying what is meant, but everyone knows what is really meant. St. Paul tells us to have nothing to do with that.

Eph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as most dear children;  2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath delivered himself for us, an oblation and a sacrifice to God for an odour of sweetness.  3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not so much as be named among you, as becometh saints:  4 Or obscenity, or foolish talking, or scurrility, which is to no purpose; but rather giving of thanks.  5 For know you this and understand, that no fornicator, or unclean, or covetous person (which is a serving of idols), hath inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
I'm guessing scurrility covers foul language like the N word? Is negro also an N word?
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Änσnymσus on May 23, 2025, 05:36:20 PM
I think it's one of the things St. Paul condemns. What you are describing is vulgarity, St. Paul calls it "Scurrility." Scurrility is smutty conversations and jokes, where people reference obscene or sinful things, (usually sɛҳuąƖ) without actually saying what is meant, but everyone knows what is really meant. St. Paul tells us to have nothing to do with that.

Eph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as most dear children;  2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath delivered himself for us, an oblation and a sacrifice to God for an odour of sweetness.  3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not so much as be named among you, as becometh saints:  4 Or obscenity, or foolish talking, or scurrility, which is to no purpose; but rather giving of thanks.  5 For know you this and understand, that no fornicator, or unclean, or covetous person (which is a serving of idols), hath inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
foolish talking, or scurrility,

When would these 2 be mortal sins?
Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Stubborn on May 24, 2025, 04:23:00 AM
I'm guessing scurrility covers foul language like the N word? Is negro also an N word?
As one born and raised near Detroit, I sure hope not. :laugh1:



Title: Re: Questions on impure images
Post by: Stubborn on May 24, 2025, 04:52:35 AM
foolish talking, or scurrility,

When would these 2 be mortal sins?
St. Paul is warning us to stay out of conversations where jokes with immodest (sɛҳuąƖ) suggestions or double meanings happen, to not take part in these types of conversations. I cannot say that 100% of the time it is certainly a mortal sin, but those conversations almost always insinuate sins of impurity as the brunt of the joke, and those sins are being laughed at in those conversations. 

A good sermon by Fr. Wathen on the subject. The whole sermon is well worth listening to, but listen for about 3 or 4 minutes, I think I started it at about the 3.30 mark......

https://youtu.be/D5guNrsdinQ?t=226