Are you a transplant from FE or SD?
Trad sectarianism is disgusting enough in its usual "Williamsonian" vs "Fellayite" vs "Pfiefferist" vs "Una cuм" vs "Sede" vs "R&R" etc etc varieties... Extending it to the realm of internet fora is a catty effeminate disgrace. Spare me - and more importantly yourself - this indignity.
If the FSSP “compromised” with modernists and “accepted” Vatican II in the sense that you seem to understand it, how could it unfailingly produce such a plethora of priests so well formed in the Catholic Faith – as the sermons on AudioSancto attest to, as do those of every FSSP priest I have ever encountered (a not insubstantial number, I assure you)? In fact, I have, in the ten years I have been attending FSSP Masses, NEVER heard a priest utter any word in sympathy with religious liberty, ecuмenism, or any of the other errors to come from and since Vatican II.
But does the FSSP accept Vatican II? Yes! They accept it for what it is, entirely at face value – a pastoral council, the one and only pastoral council in Church history, which, by virtue of its open disclaiming of status as an infallible exercise of the church’s Extraordinary Magisterium (the only kind of Magisterial authority an Ecuмenical Council – by very definition an Extraordinary event in the life of the Church – can be said to have). Since this utterly unique (even aberrant) Council was pastoral - neither defining dogmas nor condemning errors – and infallibility obviously does not apply, the FSSP recognizes those passages in the Vatican II docuмents that contradict Church teaching for what they are – errors formulated by evil men who have infiltrated Church hierarchy – namely Modernists and Freemasons – and inserted into a Council that the Holy Ghost prevented from being made dogmatically binding.
True, the FSSP does not engage in the usual polemical language of the “Robber Council” / “Conciliar Church” variety, but this is because it does not need to… It need only do what FSSP priests do every day – proclaim true Catholic doctrine on matters like ecuмenism, religious liberty, Separation of Church and State – and let the errors that came from and since the council stand out in stark relief for what they are – errors to be discarded and ignored. You know that whole “reading Vatican II in the light of Tradition” thing the neocaths always talk about?
That’s what the FSSP actually does – They affirm the Council where the Council affirms Catholic doctrine and tradition (which it does in many places, even the staunchest SV would not quibble with VII when it quotes and echoes Trent) and they toss out what is novel and contradictory.
This is nothing less than “Recognize and Resist” in its most consistent, most Catholic form. The FSSP recognizes that Catholic Ecclesiology is utterly integral to Catholicism itself; they recognize that to be Catholic is to have a pope and a visible hierarchy of bishops; they recognize that Vatican I very much infallibly and dogmatically defined that St Peter would have perpetual successors to reign over the Church; they recognize the clear limits of papal infallibility and do not confuse it with impeccability; they recognize that the new rites, while manifestly inferior to the Traditional ones, are not sufficiently different so as to deprive the faithful of the Sacraments, nor of bishops with which to provide priests to provide those sacraments; they recognize that obedience is a virtue, but one that is subordinate to the virtue of Faith, and thus they will and do resist any of the demands of modernist bishops (by word or by example) to engage in ecuмenism or other such errors which are contrary to the faith… and they recognize that, far from being the first priests to have to balance these virtues properly, they have had forebears in the many good priests who suffered under the yokes of Pope Liberius, Pope Honorius, and countless lesser prelates who
adhered to or flirted with heresy without losing their authority by claiming to teach it infallibly. Most importantly, they recognize that reform of the Church must come as a leaven from within, as it ever has in Church history, even during her darkest hour (during which the Church militant suffered under an overwhelming majority of heretical prelates, like today, but, unlike today, a period during which no one dared to speak of a separate “Arian Church” having sprung up to compete with the Catholic one). In short, the FSSP is the leaven of Catholic Tradition that God will use to restore the Church to Her former glory. It is the Catholic via media which does not resort to a “recognize and resist” of the hypocritical kind (a charge made frequently and justly against the SSPX by Sedevacantists), nor does it cavalierly divorce Catholic Ecclesiology and the Papacy from the Catholic Faith, as does Sedevacantism (a phenomenon which has tellingly flourished in overwhelmingly Anglophone –
thus, overwhelmingly Protestant – nations and cultures).
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