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« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 12:17:38 PM »
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  • "Doesn't matter as much" ?? :confused: I'm sorry, but that's just beyond an acceptable level of ignorance, it matters a great deal. These are real people and real lives that we're talking about.


    Yes indeed it doesnt matter as much.

    Unless you are one of those morons who thinks men can't have children after 30?

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    « Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 12:22:32 PM »
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  • Are all dances immodest? Or just some? I think the cure de ares said all, but the church has said some cultural dances are fines. Doesn't scripture mentioned dancing as well. Also what's about the married couple on their wedding?

    "A time to weep, and a time to laugh. A time to mourn, and a time to dance.
    [Ecclesiastes 3:4]

    Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, the young men and old men together: and I will turn their mourning into joy, and will comfort them, and make them joyful after their sorrow.
    [Jeremias (Jeremiah) 31:13]
    The link attached below is a brief treatise written by the Protonotary Apostolic Don Luigi Sartori, addressing your concerns. In it, he explains the origins of modern (by which we mean 19th and 20th century_ dances, and why Christians should not participate in them. Your cultural dances are a modern invention spread across Europe in the wake of the French Revolution. Besides the writings of the Protonotary Apostolic, there were countless other condemnations of such dances (by which we mean the events and the particular manners of dance) on a diocesan level. I would write more, but that would merit its own thread.
    https://www.libraryofdance.org/manuals/1910-Satori-Modern_Dances_(LOC).pdf


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    Re: Question to young ladies
    « Reply #62 on: Yesterday at 12:22:58 PM »
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  • The link attached below is a brief treatise written by the Protonotary Apostolic Don Luigi Sartori, addressing your concerns. In it, he explains the origins of modern (by which we mean 19th and 20th century_ dances, and why Christians should not participate in them. Your cultural dances are a modern invention spread across Europe in the wake of the French Revolution. Besides the writings of the Protonotary Apostolic, there were countless other condemnations of such dances (by which we mean the events and the particular manners of dance) on a diocesan level. I would write more, but that would merit its own thread.
    https://www.libraryofdance.org/manuals/1910-Satori-Modern_Dances_(LOC).pdf
    I wrote this.

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    « Reply #63 on: Yesterday at 03:53:09 PM »
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  • Well I’m not very good at dancing but it is fun, definitely not immodest and vain unless you’re talking about pole dancing or nightclub dancing intentionally to pick up and hook up with guys/girls…a couple of our daughters do ballet and tap. I did Irish dance but wasn’t much good unfortunately 😊Lots of men not so keen on dancing but will do so to meet women. Only puritans and strict Protestants think dancing is immodest. Catholics don’t.
    So you allow your daughters to dress immodestly? St vinney would not approve.

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  • So you allow your daughters to dress immodestly? St vinney would not approve.
    I’m Catholic, I’m not a member of a Puritan sect. The traditional priests we know have no problem with ballet. 


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  • I’m Catholic, I’m not a member of a Puritan sect. The traditional priests we know have no problem with ballet.
    It's more so the outfits they wear.

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  • Anyone who thinks Ballet is ok for Catholics needs therapy. or just a good beating.

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  • Anyone who thinks Ballet is ok for Catholics needs therapy. or just a good beating.
    I recall one man on here saying he lets his daughter go off with the school sporting team by themselves or something. There is a serious lack of concern and lack of proper understanding towards a woman's proper place. 


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  • Anyone who thinks Ballet is ok for Catholics needs therapy. or just a good beating.
    Nothing wrong with ballet. Lots of Catholics appreciate ballet and our daughters do ballet. 

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  • I recall one man on here saying he lets his daughter go off with the school sporting team by themselves or something. There is a serious lack of concern and lack of proper understanding towards a woman's proper place.
    Depends what you mean by ‘go off with the school sports team’. If the team is all girls, they have teacher supervision and it’s swimming, gymnastics, netball or hockey or something I wouldn’t have a problem. I don’t like rugby for girls. Or boxing. 

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  • Nothing wrong with ballet. Lots of Catholics appreciate ballet and our daughters do ballet.
    Its manifestly immodest.

    You cant have one rule of modesty for Church and another for sports.


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  • Its manifestly immodest.

    You cant have one rule of modesty for Church and another for sports.
    It’s important to dress smartly for church as a mark of respect on the sabbath and no need for sports gear! Wearing sports or dancewear is absolutely fine for Catholics when engaging in sport or dance activity… only a few on this group seem against it. All priests I have spoken to think it’s perfectly acceptable (I’m talking Latin Mass priests, including SSPX). We Are Not Puritans. 
    I am realising from this group that some American trad Catholics have a puritan mentality. That’s rather worrying.

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  • It’s important to dress smartly for church as a mark of respect on the sabbath and no need for sports gear! Wearing sports or dancewear is absolutely fine for Catholics when engaging in sport or dance activity… only a few on this group seem against it. All priests I have spoken to think it’s perfectly acceptable (I’m talking Latin Mass priests, including SSPX). We Are Not Puritans.
    I am realising from this group that some American trad Catholics have a puritan mentality. That’s rather worrying.
    Pope Piux XI would disagree.



    Pope Pius XI's 1929 encyclical on Christian education, Divini illius magistri §68 (same § in which he condemns coeducation):
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    in gymnastic exercises and deportment, special care must be had of Christian modesty in young women and girls, which is so gravely impaired by any kind of exhibition in public.

    You can't wear immodest dress "because sports" or "because dance".  Immodest dress is immodest, no matter the circuмstances.  Pius XI was already calling out issues IN 1929!!  Let that sink in.

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  • Pope Piux XI would disagree.



    Pope Pius XI's 1929 encyclical on Christian education, Divini illius magistri §68 (same § in which he condemns coeducation):
    You can't wear immodest dress "because sports" or "because dance".  Immodest dress is immodest, no matter the circuмstances.  Pius XI was already calling out issues IN 1929!!  Let that sink in.
    Just because a past pope has made a certain statement of opinion doesn’t make it a dogma of the faith. Because society has become so ridiculously liberal and corrupt there is the tendency amongst some trad Catholics to go to the other extreme and become puritanical. 

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  • It’s important to dress smartly for church as a mark of respect on the sabbath and no need for sports gear! Wearing sports or dancewear is absolutely fine for Catholics when engaging in sport or dance activity… only a few on this group seem against it. All priests I have spoken to think it’s perfectly acceptable (I’m talking Latin Mass priests, including SSPX). We Are Not Puritans.
    I am realising from this group that some American trad Catholics have a puritan mentality. That’s rather worrying.
    It's only seen as puritanical in the most sɛҳuąƖly degenerate culture of the most sɛҳuąƖly degenerate time in history. Whereas in virtually all cultures during all other periods of history it was seen as extremely immodest.

    Why do you think that is ?