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Offline Austin01

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Re: Question to young ladies
« Reply #75 on: Today at 02:11:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 02:10:32 PM
    It's only seen as puritanical in the most sɛҳuąƖly degenerate culture of the most sɛҳuąƖly degenerate time in history. Whereas in virtually all cultures during all other periods of history it was seen as extremely immodest.

    Why do you think that is ?
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    Re: Question to young ladies
    « Reply #76 on: Today at 02:15:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Justinian on Today at 02:09:54 PM
    Just because a past pope has made a certain statement of opinion doesn’t make it a dogma of the faith. Because society has become so ridiculously liberal and corrupt there is the tendency amongst some trad Catholics to go to the other extreme and become puritanical.
    Extreme according to what though? Sure it's seen as an extreme today, as are many other views. But if you take the view relative to all of human history prior to 100 years ago (probably even less), your view is actually seen as the extreme.
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    Re: Question to young ladies
    « Reply #77 on: Today at 02:29:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Justinian on Today at 02:09:54 PM
    Just because a past pope has made a certain statement of opinion doesn’t make it a dogma of the faith. Because society has become so ridiculously liberal and corrupt there is the tendency amongst some trad Catholics to go to the other extreme and become puritanical.
    I guess Our Lady of Fatima and Cardinal Siri were puritanical then.  :facepalm:
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    Re: Question to young ladies
    « Reply #78 on: Today at 02:32:45 PM »
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    • Allowing women to be the arbiters of modesty is like allowing a mouse to guard a room full of cheese.  It's in women's (fallen) nature to want to show off and be attractive.  It's insane to think women can self-regulate this area.  Another failure of feminization.
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    Re: Question to young ladies
    « Reply #79 on: Today at 03:12:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 02:32:45 PM
    Allowing women to be the arbiters of modesty is like allowing a mouse to guard a room full of cheese.  It's in women's (fallen) nature to want to show off and be attractive.  It's insane to think women can self-regulate this area.  Another failure of feminization.
    Actually in following the advice of good traditional priests whom I respect. 

    Ballet originated in the 15th century courts of the Italian renaissance. You may as well say a lot of classical art and classical literature is ‘immodest’

    This is definitely an American trad Catholic viewpoint … virtually no trad Catholics here in UK are against dancing. The FSSP and SSPX even put on dances for young people of opposite sex to meet each other. A friend whose daughter attended St Michael’s SSPX school in uk is training to become a professional dancer (ballet).
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    Re: Question to young ladies
    « Reply #80 on: Today at 03:17:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Justinian on Today at 03:12:50 PM
    Actually in following the advice of good traditional priests whom I respect.

    Ballet originated in the 15th century courts of the Italian renaissance. You may as well say a lot of classical art and classical literature is ‘immodest’
    :laugh1:  The renaissance period was most certainly IMMODEST.  Popes after this time period had to remove countless paintings and statues from the Vatican due to immodesty.  

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    This is definitely an American trad Catholic viewpoint … virtually no trad Catholics here in UK are against dancing. 

    You can dance in a dress.  :facepalm:
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    Re: Question to young ladies
    « Reply #81 on: Today at 03:20:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Justinian on Today at 03:12:50 PM
    Actually in following the advice of good traditional priests whom I respect.

    Ballet originated in the 15th century courts of the Italian renaissance. You may as well say a lot of classical art and classical literature is ‘immodest’

    This is definitely an American trad Catholic viewpoint … virtually no trad Catholics here in UK are against dancing. The FSSP and SSPX even put on dances for young people of opposite sex to meet each other. A friend whose daughter attended St Michael’s SSPX school in uk is training to become a professional dancer (ballet).
    You're just dodging the issue, which is immodest dress.  Dancing is another issue and can be fine or it can be an occasion of sin.

    What women wear in ballet, currently, is grossly immodest.  It's a lowcut swimsuit with leggings.  Gravely sinful.
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    Re: Question to young ladies
    « Reply #82 on: Today at 04:37:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 03:20:07 PM
    You're just dodging the issue, which is immodest dress.  Dancing is another issue and can be fine or it can be an occasion of sin.

    What women wear in ballet, currently, is grossly immodest.  It's a lowcut swimsuit with leggings.  Gravely sinful.
    I think it was somebody else who said all dancing was sinful (another anonymous post) so apologies of this wasn’t you. I accept you don’t think that thankfully!!

    I did discuss the ballet and other dance styles such as contemporary, jazz and tap where leotard/leggings/tutu outfits are worn with a priest and also my husband. Both said there may be some people who should not go to the ballet as is occasion of sin and they should avoid but for most people it’s artistic expression and is absolutely fine for Catholics. Both were far more concerned about men being tempted by online pornography than watching Swan Lake videos on YouTube 😀😀😎
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    « Reply #83 on: Today at 04:45:49 PM »
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    • Men being tempted is only 1/2 the issue.  Young women being accustomed to immodest dress is the other.  :facepalm:
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