Author Topic: Public Schools (Read 1556 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #15 on:** September 19, 2018, 09:56:17 AM »

Seriously, even if you can only homeschool (or "homeschool") for an hour a day in the evening, and your child ends up with a 4th grade education by age 18, that would be FAR BETTER and a highly desirable outcome rather than send him to public school and have him lose his soul for eternity.

Who cares if he has to work manual labor jobs and live in poverty all his life. LIFE IS SHORT. 70 or 80 years at most. That is just a blink compared to the vastness of eternity.

Since eternity is so vast, it is imperative that one's eternity be pleasant! Sacrifices sometimes must be made for this priority. The Saints all understood this.

Some Trads have totally lost their sense of priority. Do they forget what this whole life is about? They need to go on a single Ignatian retreat.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #16 on:** September 19, 2018, 09:59:50 AM »

Worldly people are stupid morons. They commit abortion because they want to have a newer car, or maybe an extra vacation or two.

When I hear Trads choosing public school (because "success") over the spiritual welfare of their children, I can't help but notice some of this idiocy has rubbed off on them.

How can a person weigh a temporary, material, flash-in-the-pan pleasure against another human life, or an individual's happy life in eternity?

It's utter foolishness.

Matthew

Geremia · « **Reply #17 on:** September 21, 2018, 10:40:33 PM »

Quote from: Anonymous on September 18, 2018, 01:43:11 PM

The person I asked said they don't care about these kids.

Public schools are a renewal of the slaughter of the innocents:
Divini illius magistri §73:

Quote from: Pope Pius XI

…and thus is renewed in a real and more terrible manner the slaughter of the Innocents.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #18 on:** September 22, 2018, 12:01:50 PM »

Talk about the slaughter of the innocents read the article below.

GENDERMon Mar 26, 2018 - 3:59 pm EST
‘Gender-neutral’ Swedish preschools teach boys to wear dresses
Genderless, Preschool, Sweden, Transgenderism
SWEDEN, March 26, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – Many government-funded Swedish preschools are “gender-neutral” and teach youngsters to reject their natural inclinations toward masculine or feminine activities, instead requiring them to do activities usually associated with the opposite sex.
“A preschool’s approach to gender has now become a common question before enrollment,” the New York Times reported in a profile of these schools. Swedish teachers “are doing what they can to deconstruct” gender.
Since 1998, state curriculum has required teachers to “counteract traditional gender roles and gender patterns.”
Schools go about this in different ways, largely based on their leadership. Many Swedish children begin going to these programs when they are just one year old.
At the dawn of this massive social experiment, “Boys and girls at the preschools were separated for part of the day and coached in traits associated with the other gender. Boys massaged each other’s feet. Girls were led in barefoot walks in the snow, and told to throw open the window and scream.”
Now, preschools use a variety of techniques to eliminate gender from the classroom, and make girls act like boys and vice versa. They prevent kids from playing only with other boys or girls. Boys are sent to a play kitchen while girls practice shouting “No!” Preschools now have “gender specialists” on staff who can address problems like boys refusing to paint or dance, or students drawing eyelashes only on female subjects.
READ: Gov’t bans prayer to God; Christian preschool forced to thank ‘sun and rain’ for meals instead
Boys may wear dresses, and the teachers celebrate when little girls become less feminine. A three-year-old boy named Otto has never heard from anyone, including “his grandparents, or babysitters, or fellow 3-year-olds,” that boys don’t wear dresses. His mother “would like this to continue as long as possible.”
One teacher celebrated how their lessons changed a “very girlie” girl into one whose parents complained she was “cheeky and defiant at home.”
A 26-year-old aspiring teacher in Sweden told the New York Times she “gets upset” when she sees her friends’ babies dressed in blue and pink. It feels like a “responsibility” for her to tell them that by dressing girls in pink and boys in blue, they are making a “mistake.”
The complete “de-sexing” of society will lead to much more powerful governments, former intelligence analyst Stella Morabito has repeatedly written as the transgender craze has taken off.
“If you abolish sex distinctions in law, you can abolish state recognition of biological family ties, and the state can regulate personal relationships and consolidate power as never before,” Morabito explained in Public Discourse in 2016.
She continued:

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In a society de-sexed by law, would the state recognize your relationship as a husband or a wife? Mother or father? Daughter or son? Those are all sexed terms. A system that does not recognize the existence of male and female would be free to ignore the parentage of any child. You might be recognized as your child’s “legal guardian,” but only if the state agrees to that. Anybody can be a guardian to your child if the state decides it’s in the child’s “best interest.” In this vision, there is nothing to prevent the state from severing the mother-child bond at will.
In such a scenario, the state controls all personal relationships right at their source: the biological family. The abolition of family autonomy would be complete, because the biological family would cease to be a default arrangement. The “family” would be whatever the state allows it to be. Again, in the de-sexed world of gender politics, all personal relationships end up controlled and regulated by the state.

There have been “occasional protests” from “traditionalists” to gender-neutral preschooling, according to the New York Times, but Sweden’s two biggest political parties support it.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #19 on:** September 22, 2018, 12:15:20 PM »

Sick.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #20 on:** September 22, 2018, 09:49:23 PM »

Quote from: Anonymous on September 19, 2018, 09:15:15 AM

I'm understand 100% of what you are say Matthew, but all those things you mentioned will be there for them to find when they grow up to be 18 as well and in the future with their own children. I'm not advocating for public school. I grew up homeschooled early on. Due to situations later one toward my high school, it was no longer an option for my large family. I am however saying that most large traditional families that I have met and befriended in my travels are not middle class with luxuries to give up. Some are indebted to the schools that they have their children in, i.e. St. Mary's. In Phoenix for example if you have 3 or more students it will cost you $18,000 in tuition, plus all the extras. That is $1500 a month.

Just because there is a Trad school in your back yard doesn't mean that it's "accessible" to you. If they don't have any sort of low-income tuition assistance, you might just have to home school. Home school isn't free (although, that is possible), but it's a fraction of the cost of private school tuition.
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I'm on a group list of local homeschool families and while none of them are openly homeschooling for religious reasons, many of them nonetheless have a more committed attitude about it than many Trad Catholics. They're willing to give up many things -- including educational goals -- in order to keep their children out of public school. Take, for example, this quote from a mother of six:

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I also work 2 days a week and homeschool 3 of my school age kids (6th, 4th and 2nd grade) in the other 3 days. They do some independent work while I’m working and honestly by Friday mama is too tired to do much school anyways. We do as much as we can each week and I’ve slowly but surely dropped the notion of having to get things done on any other timetable than our own. At the end of the day I don’t report to anyone and if we are behind or even ahead of the school year/grade it doesn’t really matter. I’d just do the best you can and do what’s best for your child and not worry about the rest. P.S. it’s taken me 4 years to actually come to this realization and even still I get stressed about a schedule and fitting it all in. Have to constantly remind myself it really doesn’t matter. Oh, and we generally school year round although lighter in summer...

800 Cruiser · « **Reply #21 on:** October 04, 2018, 12:13:45 AM »

I went through the Chicago public school system, graduating high school in 1993. I must say, legitimately and honestly, that the vast majority of my education came from home.
I had seen some of the results of private schooling, both secular and religious and must say that I was quite displeased with them.
Therefore, when my turn first came to educate my first child I put my foot down on public education: Absolutely no way no how! We looked into some of the “Catholic” schools and were also sorely disappointed, even before my wife discovered traditional Catholicism. That left homeschooling, and while nervous about it we went with it, and I have to say it was the best decision we made.
I am blessed that my wife is able to do this so well. And it is a bit on the spendy side.

Having said all that, and having been in the position before, I would have my family live in a cardboard tent before I give my children over to public education—and that was my attitude when I was a “never catholic” guy. This holds true even more so now.
There are just some things that cannot be compromised on: my children’s souls are one of those things.

Let me say in addition this: I will not berate another person for their choices, as I am not in their shoes. But I do strongly recommend taking the firmest possible stance and be willing to make whatever sacrifices it takes, to provide your children’s souls the proper education.

Geremia · « **Reply #22 on:** October 04, 2018, 06:31:34 PM »

Quote from: 800 Cruiser on October 04, 2018, 12:13:45 AM

the vast majority of my education came from home.

The same for me, even though I went to Catholic schools as well as public school

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