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Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
« Reply #345 on: October 30, 2017, 08:57:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 30, 2017, 07:44:50 PM
    The post made to Facebook today by the "Resistance" in favor of beating your wife is disgraceful.
    Please could you quote from that Resistance post? My husband does not like Facebook,  especially its CEO.
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    « Reply #346 on: October 30, 2017, 10:27:05 PM »
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    • More details on the distinction in Holy Scripture between the honour given to parents and that given to wives.

    The honour due to parents is associated with obedience. Ephesians 6:1,2

    1] Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is just. [2] Honour thy father and thy mother, which is the first commandment with a promise:

    The honour given to wives is described in 1 Peter 3:7

    [7] Ye husbands, likewise dwelling with them according to knowledge, giving honour to the female as to the weaker vessel, and as to the co-heirs of the grace of life

    This is honour to one who is both a subordinate and a fellow Christian. 

    It is not even the same expression in the Greek.  The first passsage has  τίμα while the  second has ἀπονέμοντες τιμήν.

    It is obvious that these texts are talking about two very different sorts of relationships and it is absurd to conclude that a wife should be treated the same way as a parent.
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    « Reply #347 on: October 31, 2017, 05:01:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 30, 2017, 07:44:50 PM
    The post made to Facebook today by the "Resistance" in favor of beating your wife is disgraceful.

    I think you need a spanking.
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    « Reply #348 on: October 31, 2017, 05:03:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 30, 2017, 08:57:48 PM
    Please could you quote from that Resistance post? My husband does not like Facebook,  especially its CEO.

    Think they were talking about this video

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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #349 on: October 31, 2017, 05:06:37 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 31, 2017, 05:03:56 AM
    Think they were talking about this video


    To better, saner times...
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    « Reply #350 on: October 31, 2017, 05:08:57 AM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on October 30, 2017, 03:55:54 PM
    People in this thread have cited sources which hold corporal punishment to be permissible.  Nobody on the other side has cited sources which support their position.  So far, all we have seen is your assertion that there were people against it.

    You have made a specious argument against corporal punishment and seem to expect your readers to count it as having equal weight to the writing of St. Thomas Aquinas.  You have not made a compelling argument for your position at all.

    This is how the reign of the antichrist will come about. Peer pressure nowhere based on tradition.

    Blessed are those who resist it!
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    « Reply #351 on: October 31, 2017, 05:09:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 30, 2017, 04:17:06 PM
    You're an idiot.
    It's no wonder your wife left you.

    And if you are a woman, this reminds me of why corporal punishment is a good thing.
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    « Reply #352 on: October 31, 2017, 05:11:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 30, 2017, 03:29:30 PM
    You haven't even come close.  If you think that you have, then it clearly shows that you are simply not competent to discuss this issue.  Go home and take this up with your husband.

    And you have made it clear that no matter how many moral theology books we quote, you are going to reject it.

    You are NOT Catholic.

    This is part of the moral teaching of the Church, (not the speculative theology). It is based on the natural law. It is perverse to challenge it.
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    « Reply #353 on: October 31, 2017, 05:12:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 30, 2017, 03:32:48 PM
    If J's husband is like mine, he is standing right besides her telling her exactly what to type. In other words, she is merely his secretary.

    More personal jabs.

    Avoiding the issue.
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    « Reply #354 on: October 31, 2017, 05:13:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: DZ PLEASE on October 30, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
    But repetitious lying is shown to be so much easier, and more effective ma'am.

    Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrn

    Oh man that is toooo funny
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    « Reply #355 on: October 31, 2017, 05:15:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 30, 2017, 03:46:04 PM
    That "historical practice" argument is garbage.  You'll find just as many husbands, and I would argue more, who would never dare lay a hand on their wives because of the Christian charity they have for them and the honor they hold them in.  Just because you can find wife beaters everywhere in history, that doesn't prove anything.  You'll also find murderers and thieves throughout all of history.  You can find SOME writers who hold this opinion regarding wife-beating.  Others are against it.  So there's no probative value in this "historical practice" whatsoever, Ms. Logic 101.

    No one argued against this before the 20th century. Or at least before the foundation of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.
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    « Reply #356 on: October 31, 2017, 05:16:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: DZ PLEASE on October 31, 2017, 05:06:37 AM
    To better, saner times...

    Amen brother
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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #357 on: October 31, 2017, 05:24:15 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 31, 2017, 05:16:29 AM
    Amen brother
    It was funny before, because it reflected reality.

    Now it's an invite to butt-hurt snowflakery, with white knight castrati riding to the rescue of the Jew.
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    « Reply #358 on: October 31, 2017, 09:27:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on October 30, 2017, 10:27:05 PM

    It is not even the same expression in the Greek.  The first passsage has τίμα while the  second has ἀπονέμοντες τιμήν.
    τίμα and τιμήν -- same root word.
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    Re: Proper Punishment for a Disobedient Wife
    « Reply #359 on: October 31, 2017, 09:27:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on October 31, 2017, 09:27:51 AM
    τίμα and τιμήν -- same root word.
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