More Muh Feels.
Order & Discipline is bad, right?  Leave women to their own devices, and all they do is destroy.
The Greeks tried it once, they gave them the right to vote. It almost destroyed their empire.  Quickly thereafter, their right to vote was rescinded.
A womans value is in her womb.  That is the sum total of their greatness.
Or perhaps you can enlighten me and the board on all of the great female classical composers, philosophers, inventors and creators of civilization.

Since you appear to be borderline mentally, retarded, I guess that I have to repost this (corrected slightly in red below):

For the, oh, 851st time now, nobody is disputing whether corporal punishment is licit.  So your point is, as usual, entirely irrelevant.  What's at issue is who has the right to administer corporal punishment to whom  Yes, the state has the right to inflict capital punishment.  Do I have a right to administer it to my neighbor?  No.  Do I have a right to administer it to my parents?  No.  Do I have a right to administer it to my children?  Yes.  So the question is whether or not a husband has the right to inflict corporal punishment on his wife.  While I don't agree with her on this issue, at least Jaynek is capable of discussing it logically and intelligently.

Your pictures and your comments about women are incredibly degrading.  That picture above is actually how I imagine you.  For pretending to be a man, you seem incapable of discussing the subject rationally but continue your emotional rants.  Have you had your testosterone and estrogen levels tested?  Saying that husbands should not corporally discipline their wives is not tantamount to saying that there should be no order and no discipline.

I CAN enlighten you about the greatest non-divine person to ever live:  Our Blessed Mother.

Misogynists like yourself are usually insecure in their own manhood (what are you, 5'4" and 100 lbs., with a tiny membrum virile, and lacking in other aspects of manhood?) and/or have issues with purity so that you feel the need to deride women who otherwise control and exert themselves over you through your lust.

You are a repulsive misogynist:

A womans value is in her womb.  That is the sum total of their greatness.

This is completely untrue; you disgust me.

So, Jaynek, you've claimed that you never met a misogynist.  Can you agree now that based on the above comment this punk is clearly a misogynist ... as I called him out to you in the beginning?  Do you enjoy enabling scuм like this to deride women?

Somebody has to discipline married women when they step out of line.

The Church always leaves things to the lowest natural level. This is the husband. It is disordered to expect the state to discipline women who are married.

If you can't make things simple, then you don't understand them yourself. I am not trying to impress you with long posts. Its like trying to convince people that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is wrong. People should just know it.

I am beginning to suspect that people who are against corporal punishment were not punished this way themselves.

The meme posts above are not mine.

discipline, concedo

corporal discipline, nego

I also reject your comment that the "Church always leaves things to the lowest natural level"; that's just absurd.

Just ask my dad if I ever received corporal punishment; I can still practically feel some of it.

Misogynists like yourself are usually insecure in their own manhood (what are you, 5'4" and 100 lbs., with a tiny membrum virile, and lacking in other aspects of manhood?) and/or have issues with purity so that you feel the need to deride women who otherwise control and exert themselves over you through your lust.

People can't control their size, you ass. For someone who claims to be so wise and erudite, you sure are a prideful individual. Do us all a favor and keep your superiority complex out of this thread.

I took this as a reference to the principle of subsidiarity.  I thought it was a good point.

You give the guy too much credit.

So, Jaynek, you've claimed that you never met a misogynist.  Can you agree now that based on the above comment this punk is clearly a misogynist ... as I called him out to you in the beginning?  Do you enjoy enabling scuм like this to deride women?

It really is hard to judge from forum posts.  When emotions get heated people use a lot of hyperbole and polemics.  After all, I would not have a very good impression of you if I only considered how you write when you are angry.  

And in the anonymous section it could even be just trolling.  Also, I have a lot of trouble keeping track of who all the anonymous people are.  It's hard to differentiate them by style.  

"A womans value is in her womb.  That is the sum total of their greatness."

A thought just occured to me with this comment. If that is true, then women over 50 who can no longer produce children should be euthanized because they no longer have value and are a wast of resources to keep alive. They are not people, they are cattle, which one need not respect, honor, or love.

That is one of the most degrading things I've ever seen another human write. :o
No wonder he's anonymous!

That interpretation of 1Timothy 2: 11-15 is not unusual:

As per usual, you just bend over backwards to defend the misogynists ... instead of asserting the greatness of Virgin saints and martyrs.  Carry on.

Women have literally never created anything, invented anything, produced anything other than cosmetics, composed classical literature with the greats, philosophers.
Of the Greatest 100 Chess Players in the World today, only 1 is ranked in the top 100 as female, and that is a stretch.
We are not equal, and not designed to be equal.
Women can do things men cannot, like conceive and raise children, I grant you.  That is the sum total of their greatness.
When left to their devices- (Muh Feels) they will destroy themselves and civilization with it

And living lives of heroic virtue such as the female saints and martyrs doesn't count for "greatness" in your eyes?  99.9999% of men could not measure up to these female saints, and the only greatness that counts is what someone has in the eyes of God.  All this "accomplishment" is nothing but passing vapor.  So, for instance, while men are generally stronger than women, there are undoubtedly a good number of women out there who could kick my butt.  So, for instance, while men may be in some ways generally more intelligent than woman, there are undoubtedly many women who make both you and I look like complete idiots.  Yes, overall, when it comes to AUTHORITY, the order of men over women must be preserved, and societies collapse without that.  Men tend to make decisions rationally (well, some of the time anyway) as opposed to using emotion and making decisions personal.  Men can debate issues even violently without making it personal; very few women can.  So, indeed, men should govern society.  But to claim that women have no greatness other than in conceiving and raising children is utterly absurd and nothing sort of misogynistic.  How many great women founded religious orders and schools and other institutions?  How many women wrote great spiritual books?  And, again, how about the greatness of the saints ... many of women were NOT married and did NOT conceive children but had the higher calling to be virgins and even martyrs?