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Re: Preteen thinks she's pansɛҳuąƖ
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2018, 12:32:11 AM »
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  • Your pastor likely won't be of any help, but part of the problem, too. Most pastors these days are eunuchs, subversives and / or apathetic.
    Indeed, Quid.

    OP, tell your daughter that Miley Cyrus is being punished by our just God for being an aberrosɛҳuąƖ and perverting innocent girls' minds -- her house has burned down. She should consider this a sign that those who defy what He has divinely ordered get what they deserve.



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    « Reply #46 on: November 14, 2018, 07:56:03 AM »
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  • So if I understand this correctly, "pansɛҳuąƖism" is just the politically correct version of "bisɛҳuąƖism."  Like how "transgender" is the politically correct term for "mentally ill degeneracy"?
    It's not quite that simple.
    The worst SJWs still quote the alphabet soup, "LGBT..." guess what the B stands for?
    It's 

    Lesbian
    gαy
    BisɛҳuąƖ
    Transgendered

    I've never heard a single leftist/SJW rail against or even complain about the term "bisɛҳuąƖ". I'm open to correction, if you can point me to one. At most, the term is less fashionable than "pansɛҳuąƖ". It's so 20 years ago. So while the term is not forbidden or frowned upon, would-be bisɛҳuąƖs are nevertheless guided into different, more hip labels nowadays.


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    Re: Preteen thinks she's pansɛҳuąƖ
    « Reply #47 on: November 15, 2018, 12:40:17 PM »
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  • It's not quite that simple.
    The worst SJWs still quote the alphabet soup, "LGBT..." guess what the B stands for?
    It's

    Lesbian
    gαy
    BisɛҳuąƖ
    Transgendered

    I've never heard a single leftist/SJW rail against or even complain about the term "bisɛҳuąƖ". I'm open to correction, if you can point me to one. At most, the term is less fashionable than "pansɛҳuąƖ". It's so 20 years ago. So while the term is not forbidden or frowned upon, would-be bisɛҳuąƖs are nevertheless guided into different, more hip labels nowadays.
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    I remember when the acronym was actually GLBT.  I thought it was a subtle and clever trick of the feminists to get everyone to prioritize the L
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    Revolutions always eat their own.  I'm sure the "B" will fall out of favor for its traitorous connotations. 
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    « Reply #48 on: November 20, 2018, 07:54:36 PM »
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  • First off, you sound like you need a hug, and a friend to pray with you.

    Second off, my first piece of advice is chill. I mean it... just relax, and listen to her. The more you listen to her talk about this the more you’ll learn her feelings on it. Sometimes the hardest thing to do as a parent is just sit quietly, and let the fear rage on the inside only. My second piece of advice is. She needs her dad. Girls need to have quality time with their dads. Some ideas would be coffee dates, movie dates, ice skating, since the holidays are coming up they could go out to shop for fun decorations for her room. Or maybe start making a pack to go to confession once a week during advent. Get those graces up! Also, family advent candle lighting. My husband is new to the whole practicing faith thing, but I started since we were married having him say prayers on all Sunday’s during advent (or lent) when we light the candles. It’s amazing bonding time for the family. He needs to make all his time pressure free, and not make this issues the center of “date.” Just act natural, and talk about God, His love for us, what He expects from us. Family catechism study is another good idea. Third, just pray, and monitor what you can at home. Watch the internet, watch the phone, watch the tv. There are some great routers that will give you files on all the families search websites including the ones that are in the hidden browser. Please, talk to your priest, and get support for your family. You can do this guys! She’s only 12, and that’s not to late to Guide her!

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    « Reply #49 on: November 20, 2018, 07:59:30 PM »
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  • First off, you sound like you need a hug, and a friend to pray with you.

    Second off, my first piece of advice is chill. I mean it... just relax, and listen to her. The more you listen to her talk about this the more you’ll learn her feelings on it. Sometimes the hardest thing to do as a parent is just sit quietly, and let the fear rage on the inside only. My second piece of advice is. She needs her dad. Girls need to have quality time with their dads. Some ideas would be coffee dates, movie dates, ice skating, since the holidays are coming up they could go out to shop for fun decorations for her room. Or maybe start making a pack to go to confession once a week during advent. Get those graces up! Also, family advent candle lighting. My husband is new to the whole practicing faith thing, but I started since we were married having him say prayers on all Sunday’s during advent (or lent) when we light the candles. It’s amazing bonding time for the family. He needs to make all his time pressure free, and not make this issues the center of “date.” Just act natural, and talk about God, His love for us, what He expects from us. Family catechism study is another good idea. Third, just pray, and monitor what you can at home. Watch the internet, watch the phone, watch the tv. There are some great routers that will give you files on all the families search websites including the ones that are in the hidden browser. Please, talk to your priest, and get support for your family. You can do this guys! She’s only 12, and that’s not to late to Guide her!
    block all non-Catholic sites
    take away the phone
    break the tv in half and throw it out


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    « Reply #50 on: November 21, 2018, 04:43:41 AM »
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  • First off, you sound like you need a hug, and a friend to pray with you.

    Second off, my first piece of advice is chill. I mean it... just relax, and listen to her. The more you listen to her talk about this the more you’ll learn her feelings on it.
    Stupid advice given from one who is obviously already brainwashed.
    The 12 year old is to listen to the parent, not the other way around. This is a traditional Catholic forum, not a public elementary school.

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    « Reply #51 on: November 21, 2018, 06:42:19 AM »
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  • I’m not brainwashed, and I actually care. She needs to be heard so the mom knows what friends are putting this in her head (if they are, what the source of her confusion is, and if she needs to get more help. The young thing is 12, and still a baby. I wonder if you have kids because the more you yell, and force the less they listen. They will fight back which leaves unpleasant feelings all around. This is also a young girl we are talking about, and the bigger you make an issue the more she will buck, fight, and push away until she goes so far you loose all hope. Take it from someone who did. 

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    « Reply #52 on: November 21, 2018, 07:20:46 AM »
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  • I’m not brainwashed, and I actually care. She needs to be heard so the mom knows what friends are putting this in her head (if they are, what the source of her confusion is, and if she needs to get more help. The young thing is 12, and still a baby. I wonder if you have kids because the more you yell, and force the less they listen. They will fight back which leaves unpleasant feelings all around. This is also a young girl we are talking about, and the bigger you make an issue the more she will buck, fight, and push away until she goes so far you loose all hope. Take it from someone who did.
    More brainwashed talk.

    This is how it works: The parent speaks, the child listens. Period. Not this brainwashing crap "listen to what the child has to say in order to better understand her". It is the parent that needs to be heard, not the child. The parent already knows what the child has in her head.The child thinks, therefore she is. That's what's in her head.

    You want to let the child dialogue with the parent, which dialoguing is a major reason we are in this mess. SMH.



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    « Reply #53 on: November 21, 2018, 07:38:36 AM »
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  • I’m not brainwashed, and I actually care. She needs to be heard so the mom knows what friends are putting this in her head (if they are, what the source of her confusion is, and if she needs to get more help. The young thing is 12, and still a baby. I wonder if you have kids because the more you yell, and force the less they listen. They will fight back which leaves unpleasant feelings all around. This is also a young girl we are talking about, and the bigger you make an issue the more she will buck, fight, and push away until she goes so far you loose all hope. Take it from someone who did.

    As a father, I know this much: my children obey me before I ever even have to raise my voice. That's part and parcel of fatherly discipline. They don't want it to get to the point where I'm raising my voice. Any household where the parents are having to choose between yelling and bargaining to get their children to listen is one where the father is either absent altogether, or else he is an emasculated weakling who might as well be.

    Your referring to a 12 year old as "a baby' is also very telling. Our Lady was not much older when she bore Our Lord. If 12 year olds are "babies" perhaps its only logical that adolescence has been extended into the 30's.

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    « Reply #54 on: November 21, 2018, 07:48:26 AM »
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  • No, I believe that situation lanlike his need to be handled differently. If she doesn’t talk to her how will she know where any of the influence is coming from? She gets rid of the friends, but the girl still talks like this. What if it’s coming from a family member? What if she’s being hurt by a family member? Or someone at school. Talking helps. There is nothing wrong with sitting down with your child, and seeing where their head is at to help undo the damage.


    I know how old Mary was, but do you also realize that people mature really late these days? Mary also was quite an extraordinary case.

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    « Reply #55 on: November 21, 2018, 08:33:21 AM »
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  • Once they get to this point, coming down hard on them won't be effective; it'll only make them more inclined to go this route in a spirit of rebellion.

    I agree that the best strategy is to try talking them down.


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    « Reply #56 on: November 21, 2018, 08:36:50 AM »
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    I remember when the acronym was actually GLBT.  I thought it was a subtle and clever trick of the feminists to get everyone to prioritize the L.  
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    Revolutions always eat their own.  I'm sure the "B" will fall out of favor for its traitorous connotations.  

    You're right... now that you mention it...that was pretty slick of the feminists to put the wamanz first.

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    « Reply #57 on: November 21, 2018, 08:38:54 AM »
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  • As a father, I know this much: my children obey me before I ever even have to raise my voice. That's part and parcel of fatherly discipline. They don't want it to get to the point where I'm raising my voice. Any household where the parents are having to choose between yelling and bargaining to get their children to listen is one where the father is either absent altogether, or else he is an emasculated weakling who might as well be.

    Your referring to a 12 year old as "a baby' is also very telling. Our Lady was not much older when she bore Our Lord. If 12 year olds are "babies" perhaps its only logical that adolescence has been extended into the 30's.

    How is a person's mentality an issue of obedience?  Once something like this gets into a kid's head, it needs to be unravelled.  And that happens through talking.  By imposing the "iron first" of discipline, you'll get some manner of outward compliance, but you'll never know what's going on inside.

    And, yes, 12-year-olds are babies ... especially when it comes to spiritual, emotional, and intellectual maturity.  Not everyone is as fortunate as evidently you are to have children born without Original Sin and on the same level as Our Lady.  Most of us have children damaged by Original Sin.

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    « Reply #58 on: November 21, 2018, 09:27:38 AM »
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  • Once they get to this point, coming down hard on them won't be effective; it'll only make them more inclined to go this route in a spirit of rebellion.

    I agree that the best strategy is to try talking them down.
    No one said anything about "coming down hard on them", the spirit of rebellion most often comes from outside influences, most often peer pressure/brainwashing at school/internet/TV etc, which are then ingrained into the mind of the child and practiced against all authority - parents inparticular.
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    And please note, that's what a 12 year old girl is, a child - not a baby. Do you try to unravel what goes on inside the mind of a baby? or do you already know and even anticipate what the baby needs? The same applies to the child, particularly when the child believes she is a perverted queer. What exactly is the purpose that the adult needs to dialogue with the child when the obvious is manifest?

     

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  • No one said anything about "coming down hard on them", the spirit of rebellion most often comes from outside influences, most often peer pressure/brainwashing at school/internet/TV etc, which are then ingrained into the mind of the child and practiced against all authority - parents inparticular.
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    And please note, that's what a 12 year old girl is, a child - not a baby. Do you try to unravel what goes on inside the mind of a baby? or do you already know and even anticipate what the baby needs? The same applies to the child, particularly when the child believes she is a perverted queer. What exactly is the purpose that the adult needs to dialogue with the child when the obvious is manifest?

     
    You’ve already been told the purpose of the conversation. It would help the child feel safe confiding in her parents, and help the parent find the exact cause of such thoughts.
    Let’s say she’s being molested/raped, and it’s by a family member? If the parent just puts their foot down without the possibility of understanding the child. That said relative will still show up to the house, and hurt he child. Which creates a deeper wound.
    If in fact it’s just a friend/relative talking about such things then it’s easier to cut down on the influence. It will help give the parent a good lead for where to take the conversation, and how to express their displeasure, and most importantly Gods displeasure with such a lifestyle. It lets the parent say how heartbroken they would be to not spend eternity with all their kids.