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Traditional Catholic Faith => Anσnymσus Posts Allowed => Topic started by: Änσnymσus on January 06, 2026, 11:39:42 AM
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This is in tandem with the following thread: SSPX Chapel Gets Apostolic Blessing from Antipope Leo - Crisis in the Church - Catholic Info (https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/sspx-chapel-gets-apostolic-blessing-from-antipope-leo/msg1013461/?topicseen#msg1013461)
I am posting anonymously because my login is known to some.
Most of the people who attend this chapel are new to Tradition. Many move freely between the SSPX chapel, the remaining Latin Masses, and the Novus Ordo without apparent concern. Meanwhile, those who grew up in Tradition and now hold positions of authority seem infected with a modernist mindset. As a result, only a small minority are genuinely trying to remain faithful to the Archbishop’s mission.
The chapel is effectively run by the Holy Name Society and various “teams,” with minimal real involvement from the parish priest. He delegates extensively as his primary work is at the school in Kentucky, after which he flies in to serve the mission. The HNS itself is dominated by newcomers to Tradition, yet they vote and dictate how the chapel operates. If you are not part of the HNS, you are effectively irrelevant.
What the HNS will not tell you is that the framed display in the vestibule and the so-called Apostolic blessing have caused real scandal—even among those transitioning from the Novus Ordo to Tradition.
The public social media presence is nauseating. Anyone who looks long enough—particularly on Facebook—will find repeated posts showcasing the four-picture framed display hanging in the vestibule: the diocesan bishop, the pope, the district superior, and the Archbishop. This was pushed by the individual who runs the “Charlotte Latin Mass Community” website https://charlottelatinmass.org/ and another individual who appears to run nearly everything else. The former seems conflicted about attending the SSPX while remaining “outside the diocese.” Another plausible motive is fundraising for new land or a new church, something Steve Cunningham of Sensus Fidelium has already mentioned.
Relevant links include:
Here are links:
https://www.facebook.com/SAPCarolinas/about
https://www.youtube.com/@SAPCarolinas
https://www.instagram.com/sapcarolinas/
https://x.com/SAPCarolinas
There is one additional link I will not share, as the parishioners deserve at least some privacy. From what I have been told, videos were recorded and posted without a formal video or privacy policy and without the consent of the faithful. It is also my understanding that Father Stanich, the prior in Kentucky, had no knowledge of these social media pages at the time—whether he does now is unknown.
Some of these videos are produced like short films—highly stylized, modern, and frankly strange.
Several pages include the disclaimer: “Managed by Saint Anthony’s Holy Name Society. We do not speak on behalf of the SSPX.”
Yet everything is clearly tied to the chapel itself and even linked through the SSPX directory.
There is also a so-called Regina Coeli report on the chapel that reads more like a corporate manifesto than a parish report—almost as if the priest is unnecessary.
In short, this chapel is in serious need of prayers—many prayers.
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I live in the Charlotte area and I went to St. Anthony exclusively last Summer and into the Fall. I’m struggling with my own Faith journey right now so I currently don’t go every week like I was (I still regularly attend Confession as it is the only Traditional option). But I realize that St. Anthony has had problems for a long time. Unfortunately it seems to be the sort of modernist symptoms you see in most SSPX chapels nowadays. Charlotte needs another, better, Traditional group to setup a chapel here.
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"Thanks to the generosity of the the Holy Name Society, copies of the classic booklet, The Wonders of the Holy Name will be available after Masses. "
Why does this even need to be stated? Pat on the back?
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I just checked out the facebook page and there's a short clip of +Lefebvre and the background is some really, really, cheesy-ass music. I was expecting sublime chant but not a chance. Man, what a fall. Anyone who thinks the SSPX is some legit organization these days probably needs their head examined. I'm not even sure it's a salvageable operation at this point, to be honest.
This must be what SSPX HQ means when, in the monthly newsletter, I'm being told they're bursting at the seems with new people coming over to 'tradition'. Please, just shut up with the lunacy and the pedo priest shuffle.
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As a result, only a small minority are genuinely trying to live as Catholics and remain faithful
OP, is this your chapel? If it isn’t, your statement is a harsh, rash judgment. Even if it IS your chapel, it’s still uncalled for. How do you know how almost everyone lives outside of Mass and chapel functions? Unless you speak for yourself and your family…..in which case, name yourself!
This sounds like sin of gossip disguised as a prayer request. :pray::fryingpan:
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It is also my understanding that Father Stanich, the prior in Kentucky, had no knowledge of these social media pages at the time—whether he does now is unknown.
Why don't you make the situation known to him?
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OP, is this your chapel? If it isn’t, your statement is a harsh, rash judgment. Even if it IS your chapel, it’s still uncalled for. How do you know how almost everyone lives outside of Mass and chapel functions? Unless you speak for yourself and your family…..in which case, name yourself!
This sounds like sin of gossip disguised as a prayer request. :pray::fryingpan:
I took out the phrase "live as Catholics". That was the only over-step I could find in the whole post. The rest was 100% Catholic.
The rest of the post seemed extremely restrained and stuck to facts. And these facts need to be known for the common good. In other words, not detraction.
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From their website:
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I took out the phrase "live as Catholics". That was the only over-step I could find in the whole post. The rest was 100% Catholic.
The rest of the post seemed extremely restrained and stuck to facts. And these facts need to be known for the common good. In other words, not detraction.
Why do all on CI need to know these things? I don’t see any reason, for example, why I need this information about an SSPX chapel in N.Carolina.
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Why do all on CI need to know these things? I don’t see any reason, for example, why I need this information about an SSPX chapel in N.Carolina.
All Traditional Catholics, especially those tempted to make use of an SSPX chapel at any time in the next 5 years, need to know what more and more SSPX chapels actually look and operate like.
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Why do all on CI need to know these things? I don’t see any reason, for example, why I need this information about an SSPX chapel in N.Carolina.
Because trads visit here to discuss these things.
(https://i.imgur.com/wMMiMkw.png)
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Thank you for posting..They are actually under a N.O. bishop, ...? just like that - transparent.! First it was + Huonder, sortof; but now answering to a local bishop. + Can you imagine what + Lefebvre would say or do? He would very probably shake his head in unbelief, and continue find fault with Vatican II and the new Mass...sacraments etc. as he was wont to do, to preserve the FAITH.
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Thank you for posting..They are actually under a N.O. bishop, ...? just like that - transparent.! First it was + Huonder, sortof; but now answering to a local bishop. + Can you imagine what + Lefebvre would say or do? He would very probably shake his head in unbelief, and continue find fault with Vatican II and the new Mass...sacraments etc. as he was wont to do, to preserve the FAITH.
So far as I am aware, the SSPX always professes loyalty to the local bishop, and includes his name in the Canon, even if they have gone into his diocese and set up shop without his consent. It doesn't mean that they subject themselves to his direction. They have no official status within the Charlotte diocese.
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https://nouvellejerusalem.forumactif.com/t8425-declaration-du-chapire-general-de-la-fraternite-st-pie-x
From the General Chapter July 14, ? 2012, AI translation.
Excerpt:
"...As announced in the press release from the General House of the Society of Saint Pius X, it (the Declaration Td.) is made public today. During the interview published in DICI, on July 16, Mgr Bernard Fellay, indicated that this docuмent was “the opportunity to clarify the road map (of the Society of Saint Pius “Because,” he added, “doctrinal silence is not the answer to this ‘silent apostasy’ that even John Paul II noted in 2003.”...
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OP here.
The hope is:
o That those on Catholic Info pray that modernism and false ecuмenism leave the chapel.
o That those who attend this chapel will be encouraged and consider talking to the priest and prior about concerns.
o That others who attend SSPX chapels might consider voicing concerns to the prior about what is being posted publicly for the world to see (and maybe issues at their own chapels).
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By the way, there is no chance this thread could constitute detraction. Just for starters, no "person" has even been named! The first point of detraction is the good name of another being damaged, by some truth being spread needlessly (for example, a personal sin that was committed).
This couldn't be further from that. Not only is no person named, but it's completely a "public good" issue.
Go read up on Detraction and other sins of the tongue by the Cure of Ars. Then come back and critique this thread.
https://cathinfo.com/the-library/detraction/
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Why do all on CI need to know these things? I don’t see any reason, for example, why I need this information about an SSPX chapel in N.Carolina.
Karen
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Why do all on CI need to know these things? I don’t see any reason, for example, why I need this information about an SSPX chapel in N.Carolina.
I'd wager that MANY MORE people need to know these things.
How many Trads are still attending the SSPX for example? How many are aware of the actual state of things, present-day, in the SSPX? They have compromised and fallen, and people need to know this. We're talking about lifeboats having sprung a leak. I'd call that important information!
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It sounds like the guys in that Holy Name Society aren't entirely right in the head!
Maybe people local to the Charlotte area could attend the next Holy Name Society meeting and gather some intel, and perhaps even voice some of these concerns?
The next meeting is Saturday, February 7 at 6:00 PM, after the 5:00 PM Low Mass. They provide a meal, and I hear the cigars afterwards are pretty good.
Saint Anthony of Padua Catholic Church
108 Horseshoe Bend Beach Road
Mount Holly, NC 28120
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It sounds like the guys in that Holy Name Society aren't entirely right in the head!
It takes basic reason and logic to see how accepting an “Apostolic Blessing” from someone like Leo. Leo is an open heretic who actively drags the image of Catholicism through the mud with his ecuмenical inter-Faith meetings, appointment or pro-sodomite Bishops, and “blessing” of ice blocks at climate change events. Not to mention his public adherence to and promotion of synodality and Vatican II, which is a clearly heretical council which teaches the opposite several Catholic dogmas. Anyone who claims to be on the side of Tradition who genuinely thinks that Leo is Catholic, and accepts an “Apostolic Blessing” from him, is not using their facultative reasoning, and instead letting their emotions and desire to promote their big New St. Anthony Project get the best of them. It doesn’t matter if he’s the Pope here or not, he’s an open heretic who doesn’t practice True Catholicism. Accepting any sort of blessing or endorsement from Leo in order to promote their fanciful does that the SSPX is “in full communion with Rome” is a CLEAR compromise with the Tradition, and with the Catholic Faith. I go to St. Anthony, I like the community there. I think we could be a good group of True Traditionalists. But if you don’t want to actually stand up and fight for True Tradition, rejecting the Modernists to their face, then you don’t love the Catholic Faith, or Tradition. You just like the Latin Mass.
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It takes basic reason and logic to see how accepting an “Apostolic Blessing” from someone like Leo. Leo is an open heretic who actively drags the image of Catholicism through the mud with his ecuмenical inter-Faith meetings, appointment or pro-sodomite Bishops, and “blessing” of ice blocks at climate change events. Not to mention his public adherence to and promotion of synodality and Vatican II, which is a clearly heretical council which teaches the opposite several Catholic dogmas. Anyone who claims to be on the side of Tradition who genuinely thinks that Leo is Catholic, and accepts an “Apostolic Blessing” from him, is not using their facultative reasoning, and instead letting their emotions and desire to promote their big New St. Anthony Project get the best of them. It doesn’t matter if he’s the Pope here or not, he’s an open heretic who doesn’t practice True Catholicism. Accepting any sort of blessing or endorsement from Leo in order to promote their fanciful does that the SSPX is “in full communion with Rome” is a CLEAR compromise with the Tradition, and with the Catholic Faith. I go to St. Anthony, I like the community there. I think we could be a good group of True Traditionalists. But if you don’t want to actually stand up and fight for True Tradition, rejecting the Modernists to their face, then you don’t love the Catholic Faith, or Tradition. You just like the Latin Mass.
Fanciful ideas*
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Why do all on CI need to know these things? I don’t see any reason, for example, why I need this information about an SSPX chapel in N.Carolina.
Perhaps a member is considering moving to North Carolina. NC is a very popular destination for retirees and younger people who just want to flee the madness of the NYC Metro area.
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By the way, there is no chance this thread could constitute detraction. Just for starters, no "person" has even been named!
No person has been named explicitly, but the identities of the two individuals whom the OP described as "running everything" are trvially decipherable to anyone who attends Saint Anthony's...and this thread is currently being circulated around the chapel.
(I'm not asserting that any detraction took place. Just pointing out that statements made about certain individuals in this thread might as well be pinned to the chapel door--the faithful are reading it.)
The OP gives the impression that the HNS is running wild at the chapel with no oversight. I'm not sure if that was his intent, but I would push back on such a characterization. The HNS has no real authority other than to make recommendations to the priest assigned to the chapel, who ultimately signs off on (or vetoes) any decisions.
The social media videos are not to my taste, but I don't personally see the big deal with photos of Novus Ordo clergy in the vestibule. Masses at the chapel are offered in union with the Pope Leo and local diocesan bishop. Is offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass to an alleged antipope not a far greater "scandal" than a random picture hung up in the vestibule?
Same deal with the Papal blessing. The position of the current SSPX is that Pope Leo is the pope, and I've only ever been admonished from the pulpit against sedevacantism. Should we be surprised when some men from a chapel whose clergy profess fidelity to Pope Leo solicit a blessing from that same Pope?