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Re: Please pray for me
« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2019, 01:14:28 PM »
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  • I forgot to mention another opinion your husband shares with pro-abortion fanatics: a disregard for life and the intrinsic value of motherhood as a dignified and worthy calling for women. They both deny the fact that motherhood, including the teaching and raising of the children, is the highest calling for women, after the religious life.
    Together with that belief is a foolish but religious (taken on faith) belief that women are best "actualized", fulfilled, or have the best personal growth by having a career and slaving away in an office, working for The Man 40 hours a week.  Female careers are glorified, even though the reality of such careers usually doesn't live up to the hype. Fantasy: I'm going to cure cancer as a scientist. Reality: putting in 40 hours a week in a lab, staring into a microscope and running blood tests. Banal, boring stuff. Fantasy: having a career will make me independent and happy. Reality: most career women end up single and childless in their 40s, and a huge percentage of these women end up on mind-altering prescription drugs for depression.


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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #46 on: September 02, 2019, 05:23:10 PM »
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  • I asked to 2 priests.
    One advised me not to marry.
    The other told me to do so.
    What reasons did they give?


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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #47 on: September 02, 2019, 05:28:42 PM »
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  • You must accept the fact that now subjection to your husband is in fact God's will.
    Very good point. One very good thing about obedience is that it gives peace and assurance that one is in fact doing God's will. Doing God's will is all that matters.
    A subject never sins in obeying a superior, even if the superior sins in commanding (unless the superior commands one to sin).

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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #48 on: September 04, 2019, 06:45:43 AM »
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  • I forgot to mention another opinion your husband shares with pro-abortion fanatics: a disregard for life and the intrinsic value of motherhood as a dignified and worthy calling for women. They both deny the fact that motherhood, including the teaching and raising of the children, is the highest calling for women, after the religious life.
    Together with that belief is a foolish but religious (taken on faith) belief that women are best "actualized", fulfilled, or have the best personal growth by having a career and slaving away in an office, working for The Man 40 hours a week.  Female careers are glorified, even though the reality of such careers usually doesn't live up to the hype. Fantasy: I'm going to cure cancer as a scientist. Reality: putting in 40 hours a week in a lab, staring into a microscope and running blood tests. Banal, boring stuff. Fantasy: having a career will make me independent and happy. Reality: most career women end up single and childless in their 40s, and a huge percentage of these women end up on mind-altering prescription drugs for depression.
    OP here
    I agree with you. I dont believe married women should go to work. Its stupid.
    I know some women who were young in the 1980s. They were at home, they could be with their children. They divorced in the 90s so they could be modern women. Now, they are 50-60s and they HAVE TO work because thdy distroyed their marriages, relation with their children is nonexistant (as they were not present at their teen years) and their "partner" would not provide for her. They have what they deserve... and its not the paradise they hoped for.
    About my hubby: he was raised by a career mother ...
    Its very sad. I pray for both of us and I hope he will change his mind.


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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #49 on: September 04, 2019, 06:49:34 AM »
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  • Very good point. One very good thing about obedience is that it gives peace and assurance that one is in fact doing God's will. Doing God's will is all that matters.
    A subject never sins in obeying a superior, even if the superior sins in commanding (unless the superior commands one to sin).
    OP here.
    I know its my duty to obey. Its out of question.
    And I was scared about leaving children at daycare and sining, but Ladislaus told me it would be my husbands responsibility if something bad happens (because its his will and Im only obbeying).
    Altough I believe the line who divides simply obbeying and obbeying to comiting a sin its very thin...


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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #50 on: September 04, 2019, 06:54:03 AM »
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  • You should talk to a priest.   

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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #51 on: September 06, 2019, 06:13:17 PM »
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  • Altough I believe the line who divides simply obbeying and obbeying to comiting a sin its very thin...
    Have you spoken to a priest about this?

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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #52 on: September 07, 2019, 08:13:57 AM »
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  • Have you spoken to a priest about this?
    Op here.
    About the obbeying/sinning thing?
    No.


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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #53 on: September 08, 2019, 07:36:04 PM »
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  • OP here.
    I know its my duty to obey. Its out of question.
    And I was scared about leaving children at daycare and sining, but Ladislaus told me it would be my husbands responsibility if something bad happens (because its his will and Im only obbeying).
    Altough I believe the line who divides simply obbeying and obbeying to comiting a sin its very thin...
    Yes, or course there is a line, but you must speak to a trusted priest about where that line would be. 
    I hope things are well for you both 

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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #54 on: September 08, 2019, 08:04:56 PM »
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  • Very good point. One very good thing about obedience is that it gives peace and assurance that one is in fact doing God's will. Doing God's will is all that matters.
    A subject never sins in obeying a superior, even if the superior sins in commanding (unless the superior commands one to sin).

    Right.  Everything else is water under the bridge.  You can second-guess whether or not you should have gotten married, but that's over and done with.  At this time, obedience to your husband is what pleases God.  Even if you don't agree, you can find peace of soul in complying ... nay, rather, the more you comply with something you do not agree with, the greater the opportunity you have for your sanctification.  Indeed, what merit is there in submitting to things you already completely agree with?

    Unless something your husband demands of you crosses the line into sin ... or is gravely unjust or abusive, as agreed to by a solid priest ... just submit.  And offer up the pain of submission in order to "convert" your husband.  No need to be depressed or wring your hands of speak of divorce.

    And, as I mentioned before, a man who sees his wife completely submissive and docile will almost invariably go out of his way to please here and will find himself yielding to her wishes more and more.  But a man who sees his wife always attempting to assert herself ... well, he'll assert right back and dig in his heels.

    Just tell him, "I do not agree with you, but I love you and will do as you ask." ... without negativity or resentment or back talk.  You'd probably be able to see his heart melt.  Unless he's a total animal of course, and in that case you have to do the same and offer it up.  Don't bring it up often in a spirit of complaining.  Every so often you can bring up the fact that you still don't agree, but do so gently.

    Also, people are often changed after they see their newborn.  They look him in the eye and can't bear to hand him off to a daycare facility.  I've known a number of diehard feminists who swore up and down that they would continue their career and stick their child in daycare only to break down after the child was born.

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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #55 on: September 08, 2019, 08:08:11 PM »
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  • A subject never sins in obeying a superior, even if the superior sins in commanding (unless the superior commands one to sin).
    That may be true but will be precious little comfort if something happens to children in daycare.
    A mother shares responsibility for the protection and welfare of her children.


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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #56 on: September 08, 2019, 08:15:17 PM »
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  • That may be true but will be precious little comfort if something happens to children in daycare.
    A mother shares responsibility for the protection and welfare of her children.

    It's his authority and it's his responsibility.  If you think it's immoral to take the child to daycare, take your complaint to a priest, and have the priest talk to him.

    Look.  This hasn't even happened yet.  Chances are very high that #1) when the child is born and #2) when he gets the quote for how much the daycare will cost ... he'll change his mind.  In the meantime, you suggest to him that the two of you should pray together to ask God to guide you in determining what's best for the child.  God has a way of arranging matters just fine in response to prayer.

    This constant but ... but ... but .... sounds to me like a nagging feminist.  You just refuse to let it go.

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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #57 on: September 08, 2019, 08:18:15 PM »
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  • Yes, or course there is a line, but you must speak to a trusted priest about where that line would be.
    I hope things are well for you both

    Absolutely.  You refer this to a priest.  Stop trying to assert your own will against that of your husband.  You keep wringing your hands and refuse to let it drop.  I can already envision how you regularly nag your husband about it.  Trust me that it's counterproductive.

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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #58 on: September 08, 2019, 08:21:18 PM »
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  • That may be true but will be precious little comfort if something happens to children in daycare.
    A mother shares responsibility for the protection and welfare of her children.
    Why do you live in the future? Is the present not enough to deal with?
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #59 on: September 08, 2019, 08:23:07 PM »
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  • Why do you live in the future? Is the present not enough to deal with?

    THIS^^^.  It hasn't happened yet.  Things change over time.  People change.  There's such a thing as God's grace and providence.  You sound like you're just terrified.  Where is your trust in God?  I've seen lots of changes in people and in their circuмstances that have seemed almost miraculous.