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« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2019, 10:43:59 AM »
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  • Also your husband is rather dim.  Does he have any idea what daycare costs?  Unless you have no debt and are qualified to make a handsome salary, you'll be working just to pay for daycare.  Why not skip the whole charade and just stay home?  The finances will work out the same but the home life will be way better.
    No! Her husband would hate that idea!


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    « Reply #31 on: August 28, 2019, 10:50:42 AM »
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  • Op, if you’d like to ever talk I’m available. Just message me and I’ll give you my Facebook link, insta, or email. I understand how a worldly husbands actions can disrupt a family, marriage, and even peace with yourself. I have some resources you could use, and we can even do a bible study together. This would be about *you* as we cannot change husbands, we must use our influence to soften their hearts towards God then let God take over! 


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    « Reply #32 on: August 28, 2019, 12:39:49 PM »
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  • Not sure what it is that I gather from this thread, but is it is better to be single wishing you were married, or to be married wishing you were single? I think the former, better to be single wishing you were married.

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    « Reply #33 on: August 28, 2019, 01:50:41 PM »
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  • OP here. Thanks to all of you.
    I really appreciate your answers.

    I think my hubby isn't very worldly but has some worldly traits, bacause of his upbringing system.


    On one hand, he wants me to work outside. On the other hand, he says he will let me guide our children upringing in "difficult things": for example, not allowing daughters dressing by worldly inmodest standards. He says "I will let you guide them" and I know he thinks modesty is an important thing although he isn't as conservative as I am. He is not saying I will be in charge, and I dont want that. Just in those points he will lean on my conservative view.

    Thank you Vintagewife, I will write to you.
    Ladislaus, thank you for your answer, I was scared about being responsible against God if I agree to husband's wishes.




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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #34 on: August 28, 2019, 03:25:56 PM »
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  • I wouldn't worry about this yet, since it hasn't happened.  
    This is where I'm at with this thread.  Let's not put the cart before the horse.  OP, you have no idea how long it will take you to conceive a child (that is, if God blesses you with children).  
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    « Reply #35 on: August 28, 2019, 04:08:33 PM »
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    I wouldn't worry about this yet, since it hasn't happened.  


    Isn't this kind of thinking what started the problem in the first place?

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    « Reply #36 on: August 28, 2019, 04:20:54 PM »
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  • Isn't this kind of thinking what started the problem in the first place?
    Well, clearly this topic should have been discussed prior to marriage, but it wasn't.  I don't see how arguing over it now helps.

    I think what this couple needs right now is to take the time to grow in their marriage and in their Faith.  When and if the OP gets pregnant, they will then be better equipped to handle any differences in this matter...and by then, there may not be any.    
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    « Reply #37 on: August 29, 2019, 03:33:17 AM »
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  • Many children in daycare are physically, mentally and sɛҳuąƖly abused.  And many of these people working there many can’t take care of themselves. 

    Didn’t the both of you had to talk to a priest before you were married?  


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    « Reply #38 on: August 29, 2019, 10:34:13 AM »
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  • Many children in daycare are physically, mentally and sɛҳuąƖly abused.  And many of these people working there many can’t take care of themselves.

    Didn’t the both of you had to talk to a priest before you were married?  
    Op here.
    Yes. But Father didnt talk about practical stuff.
    Only talked about Cathecism. I believe he took for granted that both of us were trad catholics as we go all sundays to TLM.
    I told him (alone) about our different views and he said that hubby (then, my fiancee) was a good man and suffered a lot (at his upbringing) . And we could marry but it was better to have a priest to talk periodically.

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    « Reply #39 on: August 29, 2019, 10:36:53 AM »
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  • Well, clearly this topic should have been discussed prior to marriage, but it wasn't.  I don't see how arguing over it now helps.

    I think what this couple needs right now is to take the time to grow in their marriage and in their Faith.  When and if the OP gets pregnant, they will then be better equipped to handle any differences in this matter...and by then, there may not be any.    
    Op here.
    Sometimes I see my case as a believer married to a non believer and one has to give a catholic example to lead the non catholic part to the faith.
    Im not saying that my hubby is a non believer, but he has some modernist traits. 

    And I agree with you. If we both grow in faith all problems (even the day care charade) will be solved :). 

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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #40 on: August 29, 2019, 11:25:36 AM »
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  • OP here. Thanks to all of you.
    I really appreciate your answers.

    I think my hubby isn't very worldly but has some worldly traits, bacause of his upbringing system.


    On one hand, he wants me to work outside. On the other hand, he says he will let me guide our children upringing in "difficult things": for example, not allowing daughters dressing by worldly inmodest standards. He says "I will let you guide them" and I know he thinks modesty is an important thing although he isn't as conservative as I am. He is not saying I will be in charge, and I dont want that. Just in those points he will lean on my conservative view.

    Thank you Vintagewife, I will write to you.
    Ladislaus, thank you for your answer, I was scared about being responsible against God if I agree to husband's wishes.
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    Obviously I'm in no position to argue about your husband's worldliness or lackthereof-- you know him, I don't.  But insisting that the wife work, and insisting so on excessive material groudns (i.e., he's not saying you need to work so y'all can afford to keep a roof over you), is worldly.  Maybe it's the only respect in which he's worldly.  But it's bona fide, boilerplate worldliness.  
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    And I don't mean to say these things to discourage you or even to castigate you.  I just think that if one hopes to find natural solutions, one has to understand the problem.  We're all sinners, and we all have our vices. 
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    Re: Please pray for me
    « Reply #41 on: August 30, 2019, 05:06:56 PM »
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  • .
    Obviously I'm in no position to argue about your husband's worldliness or lackthereof-- you know him, I don't.  But insisting that the wife work, and insisting so on excessive material groudns (i.e., he's not saying you need to work so y'all can afford to keep a roof over you), is worldly.  Maybe it's the only respect in which he's worldly.  But it's bona fide, boilerplate worldliness.  
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    And I don't mean to say these things to discourage you or even to castigate you.  I just think that if one hopes to find natural solutions, one has to understand the problem.  We're all sinners, and we all have our vices.
    OP here. 
    I agree with you.
    I believe a married woman should remain at home (except the family really needs another income because they are in extreme poverty). 
    Even if we don't have children, because hubby needs to eat well and cooking good meals take time. I don' t have time to cook a really decent meal.
    A home needs love and someone who take care of details: cleaning windows and curtains, having plants, etc. A lot of details that make the difference between just a simple house and a real home.
    But I will pray so my husband could leave his modernist traits. He is a good man... and he loves Our Lord and Our Lady. He is just very confused because he didn't live in a real catholic environment as a little child. He needs time and prayers. And I really trust in God and I will obey my husband even if I don't want to.
    Anyway, I believe this thread could be useful to other women or men with a spouse with modernist tendencies.

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    « Reply #42 on: September 02, 2019, 11:55:02 AM »
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  • Hello.  I'm a ladies life coaching teaching biblical femininity to those wishing to transition from being a provider to being a helpmate.  Most of the time the woman can make changes in her behavior that inspires the protector/provider instinct in her husband.  When he experiences her feminine vulnerability and dependence on him he begins to see the value of her remaining in the home.  If you would like help with learning real femininity (NOT goddess worship or new age woo woo), please email me at info@genesiswomancoaching.com.  God bless.

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    « Reply #43 on: September 02, 2019, 12:21:28 PM »
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  • Wow. Your husband sounds like some seriously damaged goods. This thread should be required reading for every newlywed. This thread hits close to home, since the errors and worldliness described in the husband are precisely what my whole life has been about opposing. The foolishness of American worldly culture, also known as suburban or middle-class. Everyone lives the same way, even though the system just doesn't work (as shown by marriage success rates, happiness, prescription drug use, number of children raised, number of children with problems, etc.)

    Your husband is chasing a phantom. There is no real happiness in having tons of money, going to Disneyland once a year, living in a cookie-cutter house in a subdivision, eating out a different ethnic food every day, and all that crap. It is emptiness and has no purpose. With the lifestyle he has chosen, around age 40 one or both spouses will get depressed and either divorce or abuse drugs, whether illegal or prescription drugs. Does your husband know what percent of middle-aged career women are on depression medication? The career path is stupidity, a complete illusion that unfortunately many people fall for.

    Another danger is for the wife to accidentally find a much more conservative man "at work" (ironically, she is there by her husband's will) and her emotional nature will work against her. Even if the woman doesn't mean for it to happen, it will be a strong temptation and this has happened to millions of women in her situation. Few women are able to rise above the strong pull of a true man who isn't a selfish boy who wants leisure and lots of toys, especially if said man shows her any amount of care, attention or concern. As another poster pointed out, emotion doesn't last. There needs to be some union deeper than that. You may both be Traditional Catholic, but in your husband's case that just means sitting through a Latin Mass for an hour on Sunday. Other than that, you two are from two different planets.

    How many divorces have happened because the woman meets a man at work, whether by accident or on purpose? And how many of those women were there because the husband actually wanted her to work, so they could live better and what not? I'm guessing a large percentage of them. These husbands get what they deserve, frankly. It's sad that the women are often innocent at least originally, but they get damaged as well by divorce, remarriage, and their souls get corrupted in the process. But these worldly or liberal Catholic husbands are foolish to force their wives to work outside the home. And sure enough, according to Fr. Ripperger, this is actually a mortal sin for the husband.

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    « Reply #44 on: September 02, 2019, 01:08:19 PM »
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  • Your husband's opinions, worldview, religion is exactly the same as that of the husbands/boyfriends who force their wives/girlfriends to get an abortion, and/or who contracept and live the American "double income no kids" affluent urban lifestyle.

    Your husband might be inconsistent now, not taking his basic beliefs to their natural conclusion. In other words, he is contradicting himself and a bit of a hypocrite or fence-sitter. But the basic motivation of those male pushers of abortion and the basic motivation of your husband is essentially the same. Selfishness, worldliness, and an unwillingness to forego all the pleasures that life has to offer. That is why I hate that worldview with a passion. It has caused the death of tens of millions of babies. Go read up on what abortion is, and how abortions is performed. But then think about WHY they are performed. My conclusion? Disneyland -- and every other pleasure/experience that is "out of reach" for single-income families, homeschooled families, large families -- can go straight to hell.

    I know it sounds a bit harsh, but I'm just stating a fact.

    If your husband had to choose between his precious worldly suburban lifestyle and another baby -- what would he choose? We all hope he would do the right thing. But would he? And even if he did do the right thing, he would actually be inconsistent and a hypocrite (traitor) to his secular worldview. This shows the evil and flawed nature of his opinions and worldview.