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« on: May 09, 2014, 01:09:15 PM »
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  • My marriage is collapsing and I can only think of separating.


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    « Reply #1 on: May 09, 2014, 03:00:09 PM »
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  •  :pray:

    Does your spouse know you're feeling this way?

    You're (mostly) anonymous here if it's something you'd like to talk about.
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson


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    « Reply #2 on: May 09, 2014, 05:22:09 PM »
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  • No. It has gotten to the point that there is frankly enmity between us so we no longer conversate.

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    « Reply #3 on: May 09, 2014, 05:28:04 PM »
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    No. It has gotten to the point that there is frankly enmity between us so we no longer conversate.


    Are both of you Catholic, and accept Catholic teaching on marriage?

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    « Reply #4 on: May 09, 2014, 06:02:25 PM »
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    No. It has gotten to the point that there is frankly enmity between us so we no longer conversate.


    Are both of you Catholic, and accept Catholic teaching on marriage?


    Spouse is non Catholic.

    I have my doubts that this is something even worth fighting for. I guess this is my punishment for having married a non-catholic.


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    « Reply #5 on: May 09, 2014, 06:51:05 PM »
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  • I am so sorry for you, I know it can be a lonely road to have marriage trouble. Be assured of my prayers.

    Also, maybe someone could recommend a priest to help you sort out your difficulties and what to do? One who is good with dealing with these things.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 09, 2014, 07:07:47 PM »
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  • You have my prayers.  Rejection is agony, and Christ knows that and again many prayers for you!

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    « Reply #7 on: May 09, 2014, 07:42:31 PM »
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    No. It has gotten to the point that there is frankly enmity between us so we no longer conversate.


    Are both of you Catholic, and accept Catholic teaching on marriage?


    Spouse is non Catholic.

    I have my doubts that this is something even worth fighting for. I guess this is my punishment for having married a non-catholic.


    I am not sure if it punishment, but it may be the sad result of the risk of marrying a non-Catholic.  The same also goes for a Catholic who marries a weak and unserious Catholic.  

    When serious Catholics marry, they can appeal to authorities higher than themselves when one is out of line.  This is usually not the case with mixed marriages.  

    I am very sorry for you, and I will pray for you.  My best advice is to speak with a good priest and ask for advice in confession.  You may even have to do it by appointment, as it will take time to explain the details, but I recommend that you do it in confession, under the seal.


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    « Reply #8 on: May 10, 2014, 11:09:59 AM »
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  • If this is a woman, have you read Fascinating Womanhood?

    If you're not a woman, would you consider giving her (your spouse) the book Fascinating Womanhood?

    It seriously saved my marriage, and I'm not ashamed to say so. Things have been going well for almost 10 years of our 16+ year marriage. I only wished I'd read it sooner.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #9 on: May 10, 2014, 11:26:59 AM »
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  • Fascinating Womanhood is a Mormon book, be advised.

    If the spouse is a cheater, no amount of womanly love and caring will change the situation.  It will be up to the cheater to put 200% of true remorse, among many other things to put it right, over the course of a lifetime.

    Not necessarily to do with the choice to marry a non Catholic OP.  Everything to do with the spouse's choice not honoring the marriage vows if sneaking around lying or otherwise refusing to work things out.

    Sending love your way OP.  




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    « Reply #10 on: May 10, 2014, 11:52:35 AM »
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  • My marriage was on the rocks last year and we separated because of disparity of faith although we are both Catholic.  I became more serious about the Faith than my husband and he left because of my pushing him to embrace Tradition.  I got EXCELLENT direction from Frs. Pfeiffer, Hewko, Chazal and ultimately Bishop Williamson.  We are reconciled to each other and to the Faith, praise God!!!

    Many marriages are a cross (mine included).  Please PM me if you want to discuss.


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    « Reply #11 on: May 10, 2014, 03:09:30 PM »
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  • Sorry for the gloomy post, but even if you've considered these things, it's important to remember that life is likely far from ideal on the other side...


    One of the wise elements of the Church's laws on marriage is that the alternative is often also very unappealing. If you can see no reason to continue on in your marriage, contemplation of your living the rest of your life without marriage might be what is needed for you to take the trouble to seek out the help you need to mend your relationship.

    If you're recently married or otherwise have no children, living on your own for the remainder of your life might not be a big problem, but if you've grown accustomed to having your spouse take care of many things or especially if you have children, the prospect of separating would likely be an absolute last resort.

    As you've said your spouse is not Catholic, it is likely that they will take separation as a sign that it is time for them to "move on". While you might be more open to mending the relationship after some time has passed, they might have already moved into a new relationship. While separation between two Catholics might simply give them the time they need for emotions to cool, a non-Catholic would probably begin looking for someone new. Perhaps there is already someone new in the picture and your spouse's 2nd marriage begins just as soon as you give up on him/her.

    Since there's a good likelihood there are children involved, consider their life in a single-parent home. As your spouse probably hasn't committed any crimes, the children will now have two families, one of which will include any future relationships of your spouse. Having the children reside even part time in a non-Catholic home would be a HUGE obstacle to their keeping the Faith. Even if they're mostly grown (my own parents divorced when we were teenagers), that non-Catholic home becomes a permanent part of the family and will influence not only your children, but your grandchildren as well. YOU are the only thing keeping your non-Catholic spouse living at least a partially Catholic life.

    Even from a worldly perspective, separation/divorce/child support are bad news. Google "Romeo Misses a Payment" or "Divorce Corp". Both are hit and miss, but are enough to scare anyone away from that system.

    Will your children be able to continue their education as you've planned? Will you be able to afford to continue with homeschool or Catholic school?

    Perhaps you won't have primary custody... what will their education look like then? Will you be able to afford to support yourself while sending child support to your spouse?

    I could go on, but I'm sure you get the point. Sometimes, reaching a state of liveable peace, even if you have many crosses to bear, is better than separation.
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson

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    « Reply #12 on: May 10, 2014, 03:45:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    If this is a woman, have you read Fascinating Womanhood?

    If you're not a woman, would you consider giving her (your spouse) the book Fascinating Womanhood?

    It seriously saved my marriage, and I'm not ashamed to say so. Things have been going well for almost 10 years of our 16+ year marriage. I only wished I'd read it sooner.


    Parents for truth!  

    That is the most wonderful book!  I think every woman should read it without exception!  Im sure if our poster here would read it and work a little, she would not only save her marriage, but maybe her husband would convert as well!   Thanks so much for the suggestion!

    Here is the link to the book on Amazon
     http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_21/181-7425665-6359255?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=fascinating%20womanhood&sprefix=fascinating+womanhood%2Cstripbooks%2C501&rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3Afascinating%20womanhood&tag=httpwwwchanco-20

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    « Reply #13 on: May 10, 2014, 09:14:52 PM »
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    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #14 on: May 10, 2014, 10:37:28 PM »
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    Since there's a good likelihood there are children involved, consider their life in a single-parent home. As your spouse probably hasn't committed any crimes, the children will now have two families, one of which will include any future relationships of your spouse. Having the children reside even part time in a non-Catholic home would be a HUGE obstacle to their keeping the Faith. Even if they're mostly grown (my own parents divorced when we were teenagers), that non-Catholic home becomes a permanent part of the family and will influence not only your children, but your grandchildren as well. YOU are the only thing keeping your non-Catholic spouse living at least a partially Catholic life.



    This is the exact reason I choose to stay in my marriage. Just the thought of the children having access to another secular home is enough to make me stay and bear the cross no matter what. I hate to say it but I rather keep the "enemy" in sight literally under my own roof than leave the kids in the mercy of him and his pagan family without my pressence and my careful and watchful eye, even for a few hours. It has become a strict matter of priorities and my entire life has become a performing act.