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Offline 2Vermont

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Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2023, 06:37:52 AM »
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  • Sorry, but this demonstrates again their lack of concern for the good of the faithful.  There's no reason 14 priests and 16 brothers should all go on a 30-day retreat ALL AT THE SAME TIME.  They could stagger them out, 2-4 at a time.  Typically, the time for a 30-day retreat is during one's seminary formation, taking one of the Summers, perhaps the one right before the last year at seminary.

    We have an Independent priest here who, apart from 3 weeks he was out for hip surgery, hadn't missed a single day of Mass and Confessions for the 35 years I've known him.  He's never taken a "vacation" or time off for a retreat.
    As is probably the case for most non-SSPX priests.  I think a retreat is fine as priests deserve it, but perhaps not for 30 days.  That is an excessive time away. 

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #16 on: August 30, 2023, 06:42:55 AM »
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  • As is probably the case for most non-SSPX priests.  I think a retreat is fine as priests deserve it, but perhaps not for 30 days.  That is an excessive time away.

    30 days is excessive, perhaps something one could do every, oh, 7 years or so, during a sabbatical year, but FOURTEEN priests AT THE SAME time disappearing for 30 days?  What about souls who may need Last Rites?  Souls who need Confession and Holy Communion?

    I actually think it would be of value to give a priest 2-3 weeks "off" per year, but you STAGGER these out and make sure someone can cover them while we're out.  No problem if you manage it properly.  But this?  I can imagine what would happen if half the people who work for my company decided to take a month-long vacation all at the same time.  They'd never allow this in the first place.


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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #17 on: August 30, 2023, 06:53:21 AM »
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  • 30 days is excessive, perhaps something one could do every, oh, 7 years or so, during a sabbatical year, but FOURTEEN priests AT THE SAME time disappearing for 30 days?  What about souls who may need Last Rites?  Souls who need Confession and Holy Communion?

    I actually think it would be of value to give a priest 2-3 weeks "off" per year, but you STAGGER these out and make sure someone can cover them while we're out.  No problem if you manage it properly.  But this?  I can imagine what would happen if half the people who work for my company decided to take a month-long vacation all at the same time.  They'd never allow this in the first place.
    I guess what we don't know is if there are other priests helping out with sacraments while they are gone.  

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #18 on: August 30, 2023, 07:23:15 AM »
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  • I guess what we don't know is if there are other priests helping out with sacraments while they are gone. 
    2V - there are NO priests who have been brought in from outside the district to help out with the sacraments. The majority of the district's priests are at this retreat. I do believe that since the end of the Lockdowns in 2021 some of these very priests have already attended retreats of 5/7 days.

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #19 on: August 30, 2023, 07:44:23 AM »
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  • 2V - there are NO priests who have been brought in from outside the district to help out with the sacraments. The majority of the district's priests are at this retreat. I do believe that since the end of the Lockdowns in 2021 some of these very priests have already attended retreats of 5/7 days.

    Indeed, when the neo-SSPX folded like an accordion to COVID, that would have been a perfect time for these priests to go on all kinds of retreats.


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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #20 on: August 30, 2023, 07:53:15 AM »
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  • 2V - there are NO priests who have been brought in from outside the district to help out with the sacraments. The majority of the district's priests are at this retreat. I do believe that since the end of the Lockdowns in 2021 some of these very priests have already attended retreats of 5/7 days.
    I have no dog in this fight, but I am trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.  I will say, however, why should I (or anyone for that matter) believe an anonymous OP who doesn't even provide a link to this announcement as well as any details regarding whether there will be substitute priests (or the remaining priests of the district doing double duty) during the 30 days? 

    Prior history of posts in this sub-forum regarding trad priests immediately makes me suspicious.

    Can you provide more information?

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #21 on: August 30, 2023, 08:11:31 AM »
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  • I have no dog in this fight, but I am trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.  I will say, however, why should I (or anyone for that matter) believe an anonymous OP who doesn't even provide a link to this announcement as well as any details regarding whether there will be substitute priests (or the remaining priests of the district doing double duty) during the 30 days? 

    Prior history of posts in this sub-forum regarding trad priests immediately makes me suspicious.

    Can you provide more information?

    Good point.  OP, do you have a link attesting to your claims?  I have a tendency not to believe that people might be lying, but we don't know this poster from Adam.

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #22 on: August 30, 2023, 11:24:18 AM »
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  • I have no dog in this fight, but I am trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.  I will say, however, why should I (or anyone for that matter) believe an anonymous OP who doesn't even provide a link to this announcement as well as any details regarding whether there will be substitute priests (or the remaining priests of the district doing double duty) during the 30 days? 

    Prior history of posts in this sub-forum regarding trad priests immediately makes me suspicious.

    Can you provide more information?
    Only this Facebook link
    https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=322952656959429&set=a.212247698029926      Concerning the remaining priests doing double duty the District office could provide you the information.


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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #23 on: August 30, 2023, 10:29:32 PM »
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  • Why are any of you even commenting on this other than saying you'll pray.

    I'm sure not one of you put a dime in their collection basket... And maybe these men who, even in the N-SSPX, are run ragged need 30 days away from you brood of sinners.

    Not one person in here knows the state of their souls and wether or not these priests need a 30-day retreat.

    I'm no fan of the new sspx but for heaven's sake, shut tf up.

    WashWomanInfo.com is more like it.

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #24 on: August 31, 2023, 12:33:21 AM »
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  • Only this Facebook link
    https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=322952656959429&set=a.212247698029926      Concerning the remaining priests doing double duty the District office could provide you the information.
    The Our Lady of Victories Church is the largest SSPX church/priory in the district. It's Facebook page is the major social media outlet of the district. For about a month now it has turned off comments, so obtaining feedback is not so easy.

    This is the letter of the District Superior in the latest issue of the district's newsletter. He does not mention the retreat nor any alternative schedules put in place:

    Dear Friends and Benefactors,
    Once again, we write to you with news of the Apostolate here in the Far East. You can find inside this APOSTLE magazine the various works we carry out in the Lord’s vineyard for the salvation of souls.
    One of the greatest temptations that Catholics can encounter in these strange times is that of despair. A Catholic can travel to any country in the world and find so many cases of discouragement and difficulty in the practice of our holy faith. Time and time again we hear the cries of the faithful for more help, more time, more answers to the problems they face in a pagan world. These are loud and desperate cries that cannot be ignored!
    It is the supernatural virtue of hope that provides the answers and the resources to face the “impossible” situations that we encounter each day. It is precisely the hope and trust in Divine Providence that give us the strength and perseverance to overcome the temptations of despair and sadness during these perilous times.
    However, there are also other “cries” of souls that cannot be heard so easily. These are the “silent cries” of so many millions, nay billions, of souls that are born in the darkness of idolatry and false religions. They spend their entire lives seeking after happiness and some other answers that would make this bizarre world seem more sensible to them. Unfortunately for most of these poor souls, they cannot find the answers and they die in spiritual darkness. As St. Paul writes to the Romans, “How then can they call on the One in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in the One of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach? And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!” (Romans 10:14).
    We cannot forget these souls, and we cannot pretend that we are to only take care of the Catholics who are already attending our chapels and churches. We are in need of so many more vocations, more priests, more religious brothers and nuns, more laity who are filled with the zeal for the salvation of these souls who live in darkness.
    Yes, we must be careful that we do not fall into the common error from our human weakness to be selfish, to think only of our own individual good, to forget that we are all put on this earth to save our souls AND the souls of others.
    My dear readers, please continue your generous support of our work out here in Asia. We have the utmost confidence in the Most Holy Trinity that all generosity in spiritual and material goods will be rewarded hundredfold in this life and in the next.
    Be assured of our prayers for all of you and please pray for us too!

    Fr. Patrick Summers
    District Superior of Asia 
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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #25 on: August 31, 2023, 10:57:56 AM »
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  • WashWomanInfo.com is more like it.
    :laugh2:

    Thanks for the chuckle.


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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #26 on: August 31, 2023, 11:06:36 PM »
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  • Indeed, when the neo-SSPX folded like an accordion to COVID, that would have been a perfect time for these priests to go on all kinds of retreats.

    When their chapels were open providing masses and sacraments during Covid, some idiots says the chapels were being endangered. Now when the priests goes on a retreat, the same idiots says they are depriving the faithful of sacraments without even bothering to check if other priests are doing double-duty or covering the priests on retreat. For goodness sake, just check if the mass schedule remains similar. Seriously folks, you can't please them all.

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #27 on: December 07, 2023, 10:47:03 PM »
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  • Why are any of you even commenting on this other than saying you'll pray.

    I'm sure not one of you put a dime in their collection basket... And maybe these men who, even in the N-SSPX, are run ragged need 30 days away from you brood of sinners.

    Not one person in here knows the state of their souls and wether or not these priests need a 30-day retreat.

    I'm no fan of the new sspx but for heaven's sake, shut tf up.

    WashWomanInfo.com is more like it.
    How can YOU be sure that not one of them put a dime in their collection basket and that the N-SSPX priests are "run ragged" Are you sure that these N-SSPX critics don't have weapons of mass destruction so that you can blast them to pieces?. "Shut tf up"? It's already been done in Asia. From Hiroshima/Nagasaki right up to Gaza.

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #28 on: December 07, 2023, 10:54:19 PM »
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  • How can YOU be sure that not one of them put a dime in their collection basket and that the N-SSPX priests are "run ragged" Are you sure that these N-SSPX critics don't have weapons of mass destruction so that you can blast them to pieces?. "Shut tf up"? It's already been done in Asia. From Hiroshima/Nagasaki right up to Gaza.
    :confused: Are you OK?

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    Re: Please pray for Asia SSPX priest retreatants
    « Reply #29 on: December 07, 2023, 11:49:46 PM »
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  • I think I would need a 30 day Ignatian retreat every 30 days to be a missionary in the Philippines. God reward them!