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Picture of Bishop Williamson and Bishop Michal Stobnicki
« on: July 18, 2023, 01:34:22 AM »

Bishop Williamson is doing the right thing in consecrating several bishops. In these uncertain times, especially in far flung Mass centers, there is uncertainty about the administering of Confirmations.



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( Bishop ( Bishop Michal Stobnicki )
" On the contrary, the “Resistance” has followed the Archbishop’s pioneering example in 1988 by taking its own bishops for Truth and Tradition. Between 2015 and 2017 there were Bishops Faure, Tomas and Zendejas, who have surely laboured successfully for Tradition since then, and more recently, but privately, Bishop Ballini for Ireland (2021) and Bishop Stobnicki in Poland (2022). But why the privacy? Indeed privacy is not natural for ceremonies of consecration of Catholic bishops, but the 2020’s are no longer the 2010’s, let alone the 1980’s. The reasons were, firstly, to enable more and more Catholics to catch up with the Church’s crying need to follow Archbishop Lefebvre’s example by giving more priority to Truth and less importance to that Conciliar Authority which is without the Truth; and secondly, to delay waving a red rag under the nose of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, which is more powerful and more malicious with each day that passes. Here below is Bishop Stobnicki’s brief autobiography:—
I was born in 1987 into a Polish Catholic family, I graduated from school in 2006 and joined the SSPX on the advice of old Polish priests. In 2008, I was abruptly removed from the SSPX seminary in Zaitzkofen, because I was in too close contact with Bishop Williamson, but I continued my priestly formation under the direction of the senior Polish priests, and two Traditional bishops. Meanwhile, in 2014 I graduated from law school and I did some work as a lawyer for a while. In 2013 I had again contacted Bishop Williamson when he was expelled from the FSSPX. In 2016 he began coming to Poland regularly, and he saw fit to ordain me priest on July 1, 2017. For the next five years, such were the fruits of my priestly ministry in Poland (and – surely a good sign – the violent opposition to it) that I was consecrated by him as a bishop, in private but with witnesses, on August 15, 2022. With one fellow priest also ordained by Bishop Williamson, we serve now 17 Mass centres in Poland, which includes so far nine Confirmation ceremonies, and the conditional re-ordination of six priests. The violent opposition has continued also, up to and including the possibly murderous slashing of a tire of my car. Establishing the “Resistance” in Poland has been hard work, but my colleague and I are now helping to look after many good souls. Thanks be to God, and to Our Lady, Queen of Poland. "

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" On the contrary, the “Resistance” has followed the Archbishop’s pioneering example in 1988 by taking its own bishops for Truth and Tradition. Between 2015 and 2017 there were Bishops Faure, Tomas and Zendejas, who have surely laboured successfully for Tradition since then, and more recently, but privately, Bishop Ballini for Ireland (2021) and Bishop Stobnicki in Poland (2022). But why the privacy? Indeed privacy is not natural for ceremonies of consecration of Catholic bishops, but the 2020’s are no longer the 2010’s, let alone the 1980’s. The reasons were, firstly, to enable more and more Catholics to catch up with the Church’s crying need to follow Archbishop Lefebvre’s example by giving more priority to Truth and less importance to that Conciliar Authority which is without the Truth; and secondly, to delay waving a red rag under the nose of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, which is more powerful and more malicious with each day that passes. Here below is Bishop Stobnicki’s brief autobiography:—
I was born in 1987 into a Polish Catholic family, I graduated from school in 2006 and joined the SSPX on the advice of old Polish priests. In 2008, I was abruptly removed from the SSPX seminary in Zaitzkofen, because I was in too close contact with Bishop Williamson, but I continued my priestly formation under the direction of the senior Polish priests, and two Traditional bishops. Meanwhile, in 2014 I graduated from law school and I did some work as a lawyer for a while. In 2013 I had again contacted Bishop Williamson when he was expelled from the FSSPX. In 2016 he began coming to Poland regularly, and he saw fit to ordain me priest on July 1, 2017. For the next five years, such were the fruits of my priestly ministry in Poland (and – surely a good sign – the violent opposition to it) that I was consecrated by him as a bishop, in private but with witnesses, on August 15, 2022. With one fellow priest also ordained by Bishop Williamson, we serve now 17 Mass centres in Poland, which includes so far nine Confirmation ceremonies, and the conditional re-ordination of six priests. The violent opposition has continued also, up to and including the possibly murderous slashing of a tire of my car. Establishing the “Resistance” in Poland has been hard work, but my colleague and I are now helping to look after many good souls. Thanks be to God, and to Our Lady, Queen of Poland. "



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Re: Picture of Bishop Williamson and Bishop Michal Stobnicki
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2023, 05:09:54 AM »
Consecrating bishops is not the issue but the manner in which it was done. There should have been ample public notice like banns of ordination.


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Re: Picture of Bishop Williamson and Bishop Michal Stobnicki
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2023, 05:26:35 AM »
Consecrating bishops is not the issue but the manner in which it was done. There should have been ample public notice like banns of ordination.

The first three bishops (Faure, Tomas, and Zendejas) are all members of congregations, but the last three (Ballini, Stobnicki, and Morgan) are all independents.  

It could be accepted tgat +Williamson consecrated them in the great and (then) reasonable fear of worldwide lockdowns, as was done behind the Iron Curtain.  But now that the threat has passed, while the bishops remain, they should join a Resistance congregation.

Lefebvre never ordained or consecrated independent priests and bishops, and the covid crisis/lockdown fear having passed, their is no excuse for them remaining independent.  

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Re: Picture of Bishop Williamson and Bishop Michal Stobnicki
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2023, 06:30:05 AM »
Consecrating bishops is not the issue but the manner in which it was done. There should have been ample public notice like banns of ordination.

So someone who didn't really have formal training except under some "senior" priests, went to law school, worked as a lawyer, and was just ordained to the priesthood 5 years prior to his consecration, at the age of 35?  This one has a strong chance of blowing up on Bishop Williamson.  Perhaps Bishop Kelly can now argue about the "mental state" of Bishop Williamson.

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Re: Picture of Bishop Williamson and Bishop Michal Stobnicki
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2023, 06:31:54 AM »
Bishop Williamson is doing the right thing in consecrating several bishops. In these uncertain times, especially in far flung Mass centers, there is uncertainty about the administering of Confirmations.


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