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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2018, 02:10:14 PM »
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  • Our medical schools train young doctors or future doctors how to slice and dice babies to death, but if the professor ever used the N word during class, no doubt his job and reputation would be sliced and diced.

    Many years ago I saw the movie Apocalypse Now on the big screen.  Being a Vietnam combat vet, I could appreciate the realism of the film as well as some of the surrealism depicted.  One thing I never forgot was a particular thing Colonel Kurtz (Marlon Brando) told Captain Willard (Martin Sheen) who had been assigned to terminate Kurtz "with extreme prejudice."  The quote which dramatically highlights much of the long standing gross hypocrisy of our society is heard below. 

    In the actual movie the quote is heard during a face to face confrontation between Kurtz and Willard; however the clip below is excellent because it highlights to a much greater extent the profound message behind the quote by showing what Kurtz was talking about.

    "We train young men to drop fire on people but their commanders won't allow them to write .... on their aeroplanes because... it's obscene."





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    « Reply #16 on: July 14, 2018, 03:05:03 PM »
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  • Seriously... have some class.  :really-mad2:

    Some words just aren't appropriate for mixed company.  "All things have their season, and in their times all things pass under heaven."

    No wonder so many people are turned off by so-called "traditionalism".
    Schnatter used the word but it was in the right context. Here is what he said: "“Colonel Sanders called blacks n—–s,” Schnatter said, before complaining that Sanders never faced public backlash." It doesn't sound to me like Schnatter was calling blacks the name but rather saying people have said worse in the past and gotten no punishment.  Also using a bad word shouldn't cost you your livelihood.  There are some people that want to ruin you completely for having faults. How is that charitable? If anything, the right response would be a public apology and forgiveness by those offended. 


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    « Reply #17 on: July 14, 2018, 04:58:26 PM »
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  • Here's an even better one. You hear God's holy name used in vain in virtually all modern movies. But saying nigger is somehow the worst thing a person can do, which can almost end your life. I say too bad for the niggers who are offended. It's just not a big deal. It's a word, just get over it. They call white people names every day and nobody cares. Why do we walk on eggshells for the stupid niggers? Is it White Guilt or what? We are all programmed to recoil in horror when we hear or see that word in print, including you who are reading this. Ever ask yourself why? It's not even a sin. It's a slang term for a negro person. People don't recoil when a black man says Cracker or Honky. Why?

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    Re: Papa Johns founder on the hot seat for saying Nigger
    « Reply #18 on: July 14, 2018, 05:50:34 PM »
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  • You can murder your baby in the womb, consider yourself a 5th gender, sleep with anyone, everyone, and anything, but don't you ...

    dare smoke a cigarette in public [another one of their replacement moral principles].

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    Re: Papa Johns founder on the hot seat for saying Nigger
    « Reply #19 on: July 14, 2018, 06:05:07 PM »
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  • Here's an even better one. You hear God's holy name used in vain in virtually all modern movies. But saying nigger is somehow the worst thing a person can do, which can almost end your life. I say too bad for the niggers who are offended. It's just not a big deal. It's a word, just get over it. They call white people names every day and nobody cares. Why do we walk on eggshells for the stupid niggers? Is it White Guilt or what? We are all programmed to recoil in horror when we hear or see that word in print, including you who are reading this. Ever ask yourself why? It's not even a sin. It's a slang term for a negro person. People don't recoil when a black man says Cracker or Honky. Why?
    Let me preface this by saying that I do not like the word. It's really just a horrible word in the English language and Catholics shouldn't be throwing around racial epithets like that. It's an awful vice.
    That being said, this new world of saying or doing one thing bad and losing everything is really, really bad. It's almost a mob-mentality kind of thing, where everyone goes after you with the intention of ruining your entire life! He made a mistake and people should forgive him.
    Even then, do you really think a guy with million-dollar NFL and college football deals and naming rights is really racist towards black people? Both sports are majority African-American.
    Remember O most gracious Virgin Mary...


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    « Reply #20 on: July 14, 2018, 06:45:17 PM »
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  • Of course if he was a Negro, it would be a total non issue.

    Or imagine if the waitress here was black and the 4 huge mamas were white.  The Jєωsmedia would be going non-stop with a hate crime story.  As it is you have a hard time finding any news reporting that the waitress here was white (I only ran across one), let alone a single mention of any possible hate crime.


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    Re: Papa Johns founder on the hot seat for saying Nigger
    « Reply #21 on: July 14, 2018, 07:03:41 PM »
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  • Here is John Schnatter's explanation from the radio yesterday about what happened. (Remember he had rebuked the NFL players for kneeling during the anthem.  May have been some payback here.)

     http://www.wave3.com/story/38642040/schnatter-says-he-was-pushed-to-use-n-word-in-media-training-call
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    Re: Papa Johns founder on the hot seat for saying Nigger
    « Reply #22 on: July 14, 2018, 07:21:02 PM »
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  • Let me preface this by saying that I do not like the word. It's really just a horrible word in the English language and Catholics shouldn't be throwing around racial epithets like that. It's an awful vice.
    That being said, this new world of saying or doing one thing bad and losing everything is really, really bad. It's almost a mob-mentality kind of thing, where everyone goes after you with the intention of ruining your entire life! He made a mistake and people should forgive him.
    Even then, do you really think a guy with million-dollar NFL and college football deals and naming rights is really racist towards black people? Both sports are majority African-American.
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    I know a black man who calls other blacks Nigger and doesn't bat an eyelash. . . . So I axt 'im -- wassup?
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    And he 'splained to me. Sez, "But that's not what I said. I said, 'Niggah'.
    "Huh?! You can't be serious! I stared at him with my mouth open.
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    He could see I was having a problem with this. So he repeated himself for emphasis:
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    "I dint say Nigger. I said, Niggah. There's a difference." 
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    He meant every word of it. He was not JIVIN' me.
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    Reminds me.
    Have you noticed the ad panels on like CNN or Yahoo! or other sites that have trending photos with captions?
    This morning there was one going around with President Trump reviewing the Redcoats with the Queen at his right elbow.
    She had a matching hat and a big purse on her left forearm like it was glued on or something.
    I thought, "Why would she be carrying a PURSE?" Epi pen? Remote? mini Football? Mace? 9mm? 
    Then the caption caught my eye -- I usually don't read captions.
    It said Trump had committed (some number) of diplomatic faux pas according to British Royal protocol!
    I was supposed to be like "Scandalized, I'm sure!"

    It seems they could have said anything they wanted to for a caption, because a blunder in Royal protocol would go entirely unnoticed unless you were extremely keen to such details. Something like he didn't bow the correct number of times. 
    Oh, wait -- that was in Singapore. Never mind.
    But they obviously had to be true to form -- the press has an image to maintain! -- as the President's FAKE NEWS gadfly! 
    I guess I was supposed to click a link to read their list, but I didn't have the patience to wait for their software to load!! HAHAHA
    Now I see there's one under this photo (below) saying "Donald Trump taunts protesters at Scottish golf course as they tell him, "Go Home!" 
    ...Question: Does this look like he's taunting anyone? 
    Makes me wonder if perhaps it was adoring fans to whose cheers he was waving back.


    If that had been James Comey making the waves, would it have said they were "taunts?" 
    "Mmmm.. Naaaah.. I don't think so."
    They be like, James Comey waves to adoring fans in the courtroom! 


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    Re: Papa Johns founder on the hot seat for saying Nigger
    « Reply #23 on: July 15, 2018, 11:34:51 AM »
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  • Schnatter used the word but it was in the right context. Here is what he said: "“Colonel Sanders called blacks n—–s,” Schnatter said, before complaining that Sanders never faced public backlash." It doesn't sound to me like Schnatter was calling blacks the name but rather saying people have said worse in the past and gotten no punishment. Also using a bad word shouldn't cost you your livelihood.  There are some people that want to ruin you completely for having faults. How is that charitable? If anything, the right response would be a public apology and forgiveness by those offended.
    I wasn't referring to use of the word by Mr. Schnatter, which was used by him to actually say something along the ones of "These are words we SHOULDN'T use.."  Mr. Schnatter is being treated unjustly.
    What I was referring to, is that in the OPs opening comment, he (the OP) says: "I guess some niggers got upset."

    That is out of line.. that is using the word in a way that is not appropriate for mixed company.

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    Re: Papa Johns founder on the hot seat for saying Nigger
    « Reply #24 on: July 15, 2018, 02:34:21 PM »
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  • https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/13/news/companies/papa-johns-schnatter-out/index.html

    I guess some niggers got upset.

    You can murder your baby in the womb, consider yourself a 5th gender, sleep with anyone, everyone, and anything, but don't you dare say nigger or your life is over.
    Stop, world, I want to get off.
    Please don't give ammo to the SPLC.

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    Re: Papa Johns founder on the hot seat for saying Nigger
    « Reply #25 on: July 16, 2018, 09:00:09 PM »
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    Update --- More news today about Schnatter's fall from grace
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    ---This is overshadowed in the news by the Deep State scandal but it's directly related! The lawyers who have designed and carried out this subterfuge of Schnatter's place in the company he founded have made it clear they deliberately planned to make his removal happen, and they coaxed him into situations where he was not as sly and circuмspect as he could have been, so the lawyers won by getting him evicted from his own office. THIS IS WHAT LAWYERS DO -- Lawyers conspire to set up traps for their enemies and lie in wait for them to step on the trip wire. They are taught to do this in law school. If you can't handle the creepiness of this concept you will never make it as a lawyer. They're probably not going to stop until they take his home and personal assets as well! If he ends up ON THE STREET that will be of no concern to them!! It's all about money and power. Perhaps his biggest mistake was training these malefactors how to make great pizza, which is an art form and John Schnatter is obviously an artist who has mastered this art! He has a lot in common with Donald Trump, unfortunately, he has not sought paid attention to the counsel of his own attorneys because he thought he knew better, and probably had no idea this plan was being put together behind his back!! Trump, on the other hand, has a lifetime of experience seeking the counsel of competent attorneys who have looked out for his interest, they have 'had his back" as they say, and Trump has not gone ahead with his own instincts deliberately ignoring the warnings of his own counselors. Sometimes it might seem he does so, especially with his early morning tweets, but he has the big picture under control even if it doesn't seem that way from the outside. -----
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    'Papa John' Schnatter evicted from company headquarters in Louisville


    Fox NewsJuly 16, 2018


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    “With respect to John H. Schnatter," the board of directors at Papa John’s says “Papa John” Schnatter will no longer have a work space at the company headquarters in the wake of his latest controversy. On Sunday, Papa John’s International, Inc. issued a press release stating that the company will be terminating a sublease agreement with Schnatter, which had allowed him the use of office space within the building. The decision came following the board’s previous actions toward terminating Schnatter’s “founders agreement,” and removing his likeness from marketing materials after he admitted to using the N-word during a conference call in May 2018. “Since Mr. Schnatter no longer has an active role... 



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    “With respect to John H. Schnatter," the board of directors at Papa John’s says “Papa John” Schnatter will no longer have a work space at the company headquarters in the wake of his latest controversy.
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    On Sunday, Papa John’s International, Inc. issued a press release stating that the company will be terminating a sublease agreement with Schnatter, which had allowed him the use of office space within the building.

    The board of directors authorized the termination of Schnatter's sublease at company headquarters in Louisville, Ky. 
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    The decision came following the board’s previous actions toward terminating Schnatter’s “founders agreement,” and removing his likeness from marketing materials after he admitted to using the N-word during a conference call in May 2018.
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    'PAPA' JOHN SCHNATTER CLAIMS HE WAS 'PUSHED' TO USE N-WORD
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    “Since Mr. Schnatter no longer has an active role with the management of company’s business, the special committee [of the board of directors] also approved and directed the company to terminate a sublease agreement granting Mr. Schnatter the right to use certain office space at the company’s corporate headquarters in Louisville, Kentucky,” the press release reads.
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    Papa John’s International says it has further asked Schnatter to refrain from speaking to the media about the pizza chain. The company will also “oversee” an investigation “related to diversity and inclusion.”
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    Schnatter’s latest controversy began on July 11, when Forbes reported of Schnatter’s use of the racial slur during a May conference call with a marketing firm. The firm, Laundry Service, was reportedly speaking to Schnatter to “prevent future public-relations snafus” following a November 2017 incident, during which then-CEO Schnatter blamed the company’s struggling third-quarter sales on the NFL’s handling of players' national anthem protests.
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    Papa John's confirmed last week that it would be removing Schnatter's likeness from marketing materials in the wake of the controversy.  (AP/Charles Krupa)
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    PAPA JOHN'S TO TAKE FOUNDER'S FACE OFF MARKETING MATERIALS
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    During the call, Schnatter was said to be participating in a role-playing exercise, when he allegedly stated that “Colonel Sanders called black people n------,” and claimed that Sanders never got backlash for it.
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    The pizza chairman then allegedly spoke of growing up in Indiana, where the outlet reports that he said “people used to drag African-Americans from trucks until they died.” Despite intending for the sentiment to convey his opposition to racism, Forbes’ source said that multiple people on the call were offended.
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    Following the news, Schnatter issued an apology in which he admitted the reports of him using “inappropriate and hurtful language” were true.
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    "Regardless of the context, I apologize. Simply stated, racism has no place in our society,” said Schnatter.
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    Later the same day, Schantter resigned as chairman. He had previously stepped down as CEO in December 2017, in the wake of his NFL comments.

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    Since the Forbes report, the MLB, the Atlanta Falcons, and other organizations have been distancing themselves from the Papa John’s franchise.
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    Papa John’s confirmed to Fox News on Friday that the company’s “Papa Slam” promotion with the MLB was suspended until at least after the All-Star Game, and the NFL’s Atlanta Falcons and the Atlanta United soccer team (both owned by AMB Sports & Entertainment) said they had suspended their affiliation with the chain in light of the founder’s “reprehensible” comments, Fox 5 reported.
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    Meanwhile, on Friday afternoon, Schnatter, in an interview on WHAS, a Louisville radio station, said he was pressured to use the N-word during the conference call.
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    “The agency was promoting that vocabulary … They pushed me,” Schnatter told WHAS on July 13. “And it upset me.”

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    Fox News' Janine Puhak contributed to this report.
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    Re: Papa Johns founder on the hot seat for saying Nigger
    « Reply #26 on: July 16, 2018, 09:05:05 PM »
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  • He was also interviewed yesterday and said that after the PR call, which happened a few weeks ago, the PR firm called back and tried to extort them for 6 million dollars.  They said they would release the audio to the press unless they were paid 6 million.  Schnatter and company said 'no way'.  Then the tapes were released to Forbes.

    I'm surprised he didn't initially mention the extortion, but it'll be interesting to see what happens with this.  He still owns 30% of the company and is still on the board, just not chairman anymore.

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    Re: Papa Johns founder on the hot seat for saying Nigger
    « Reply #27 on: July 16, 2018, 09:17:09 PM »
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    Bottom line is, according to the black man I know (I'm not making this up) it all comes down to 
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    HOW JOHN SCHNATTER PRONOUNCED THE WORD NIGGER                                                      
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    If he had pronounced it differently he would not have any problem.
    He said, "Nigger" with a hard "r" at the end.
    If he had said "Niggah" with an "ah" at the end instead of the hard "r," there would be no offense.
    This is not fake news.
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    Re: Papa Johns founder on the hot seat for saying Nigger
    « Reply #28 on: July 16, 2018, 09:22:10 PM »
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  • He was also interviewed yesterday and said that after the PR call, which happened a few weeks ago, the PR firm called back and tried to extort them for 6 million dollars.  They said they would release the audio to the press unless they were paid 6 million.  Schnatter and company said 'no way'.  Then the tapes were released to Forbes.

    I'm surprised he didn't initially mention the extortion, but it'll be interesting to see what happens with this.  He still owns 30% of the company and is still on the board, just not chairman anymore.
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    And the PR firm's name is "Laundry Service." (Great name for an extortion front organization -- "We're just here to pick up uniforms!")
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    Re: Papa Johns founder on the hot seat for saying Nigger
    « Reply #29 on: July 16, 2018, 09:34:44 PM »
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  • Please don't give ammo to the SPLC.
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    That's right. Make sure you pronounce it properly and it won't be "ammo for the SPLC" -- I guess some niggahs got upset.
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