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Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2019, 10:55:40 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on January 31, 2019, 12:07:38 AM
    Men do not ever belong in the delivery room!

    Why?  Just curious.

    I was there with my wife and wouldn't have missed it for the world.
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #46 on: January 31, 2019, 10:59:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on January 31, 2019, 06:52:14 AM
    No pain meds for the suffering mother!
    No support from husband for distressed wife allowed in delivery room!
    Come on people. We are not Puritans. This is getting ridiculous!

    I agree; things are really getting weird here lately.  Then you can throw in:  corporal punishment for wives, makeup is always sinful, high heels are tantamount to prostitution.  Sounds to me like a bunch of guys struggling with impurity and therefore lashing out against women.
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #47 on: January 31, 2019, 03:38:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on January 31, 2019, 06:52:14 AM
    No pain meds for the suffering mother!
    No support from husband for distressed wife allowed in delivery room!
    Come on people. We are not Puritans. This is getting ridiculous!
    Oh! and NO MALE DOCTORS!
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #48 on: January 31, 2019, 06:09:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on January 31, 2019, 03:38:53 PM
    Oh! and NO MALE DOCTORS!
    Definitely no men ! 
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #49 on: January 31, 2019, 07:05:29 PM »
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    • This is ridiculous that men can’t be in the room. Of course strange men shouldn’t, but husbands and make doctors have their place there 🙄🙄
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #50 on: January 31, 2019, 08:33:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: SusanneT on January 31, 2019, 06:09:47 PM
    Definitely no men !
    Suzanne, Were you the anonymous previous poster who said men have no place in the delivery room?
    Or are there two people here who think similarly?
    Would you refuse the services of a male doctor (or midwife for that matter) if you or your baby were in severe distress and/or danger?
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #51 on: January 31, 2019, 09:26:01 PM »
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    • I can understand women not wanting male doctors, especially as an OBGYN, but the I'd like to know the reasoning behind the belief that a husband shouldn't be in the room. Why?
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #52 on: January 31, 2019, 10:59:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on January 31, 2019, 09:26:01 PM
    I can understand women not wanting male doctors, especially as an OBGYN, but the I'd like to know the reasoning behind the belief that a husband shouldn't be in the room. Why?

    A woman with any sense of feminine "mystique" will get it instinctively. Unfortunately, modern women have lost all sense of decorum, modesty, and delicacy. Our great grandmothers knew much better! There is a reason why before the raise of Feminism, when the Patriarchal institution was firmly established in society, husbands would NEVER be permitted in the delivery room. They would wait OUTSIDE. 

    That is all I have to say about this. Not really interested in pursuing the conversation any longer, so I'll abandon this thread.  
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #53 on: January 31, 2019, 11:18:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on January 31, 2019, 10:59:14 PM
    A woman with any sense of feminine "mystique" will get it instinctively. Unfortunately, modern women have lost all sense of decorum, modesty, and delicacy. Our great grandmothers knew much better! There is a reason why before the raise of Feminism, when the Patriarchal institution was firmly established in society, husbands would NEVER be permitted in the delivery room. They would wait OUTSIDE.

    That is all I have to say about this. Not really interested in pursuing the conversation any longer, so I'll abandon this thread.  

    This is nonsense.  A holdover of Victorian "morality", itself an offspring of puritanism.

    I have assisted my wife at the births of all of our children.  The "two in one flesh" applies here, too, even in the birthing room.  The two of us support each other, assist each other, and experience one of the most amazing, beautiful, mysterious events in life.  Together.

    I asked this in another thread:  Why does Traditional Catholicism seem to attract such puritanistic, Jansenistic, overly-scrupulous, and generally unbalanced people?
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #54 on: January 31, 2019, 11:26:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on January 31, 2019, 10:59:14 PM
    A woman with any sense of feminine "mystique" will get it instinctively. Unfortunately, modern women have lost all sense of decorum, modesty, and delicacy. Our great grandmothers knew much better! There is a reason why before the raise of Feminism, when the Patriarchal institution was firmly established in society, husbands would NEVER be permitted in the delivery room. They would wait OUTSIDE.

    That is all I have to say about this. Not really interested in pursuing the conversation any longer, so I'll abandon this thread.  

    Btw, I just showed your post to my wife.  She laughed hysterically.  She said: "If the husband can help get the baby in there, he can sure as heck help get it out."
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #55 on: January 31, 2019, 11:32:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: ihsv on January 31, 2019, 11:18:58 PM
    This is nonsense.  A holdover of Victorian "morality", itself an offspring of puritanism.

    I have assisted my wife at the births of all of our children.  The "two in one flesh" applies here, too, even in the birthing room.  The two of us support each other, assist each other, and experience one of the most amazing, beautiful, mysterious events in life.  Together.

    I asked this in another thread:  Why does Traditional Catholicism seem to attract such puritanistic, Jansenistic, overly-scrupulous, and generally unbalanced people?
    Catholic husbands also used to wait OUTSIDE the room in the patriarchal society. If the concept is quite foreign to you is just because of Feminism. Nothing else.
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #56 on: January 31, 2019, 11:33:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: ihsv on January 31, 2019, 11:26:41 PM
    Btw, I just showed your post to my wife.  She laughed hysterically.  She said: "If the husband can help get the baby in there, he can sure as heck help get it out."
    Yep, that is a typical response from the typical modern woman. Pretty average. 
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    « Reply #57 on: January 31, 2019, 11:40:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on January 31, 2019, 11:33:31 PM
    Yep, that is a typical response from the typical modern woman. Pretty average.

    Including the hysterical laugh.
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #58 on: January 31, 2019, 11:50:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on January 31, 2019, 11:32:35 PM
    Catholic husbands also used to wait OUTSIDE the room in the patriarchal society. If the concept is quite foreign to you is just because of Feminism. Nothing else.

    ::)

    Yes, the concept is quite foreign to me, since I'm Catholic, and not a Puritan. 

    I'm also a man, and I'd appreciate it, madam, if you'd stop trying to tell us men how to run our families.
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    Re: Pain Medecine During Childbirth is Immoral
    « Reply #59 on: January 31, 2019, 11:52:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on January 31, 2019, 11:33:31 PM
    Yep, that is a typical response from the typical modern woman. Pretty average.

    ::)
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