I have already explicitly said that we live in a society in which, for various reasons, it is common for a woman to need her husband to be present at childbirth.  I do not doubt that this was your experience.

My position is that this need exists because of problems in society, not because the husband's attendance is the ideal.  In an ideal situation a woman would not have to worry about her female birth attendants being lesbians (there has been increasing feminist influence in midwife training in recent years) or hospital staff giving unwanted vaccinations to the child.  

I wrote this.  Furthermore, the anonymous subforum is very annoying.

I think the point I made earlier Jayne about wanting to share in the birth of a child that my husband and I created together with God, is something that is much more normal than insisting on a roomful of women instead. Whether they are known or unknown. It is something that is timeless, I believe, and not a recent development, as you claim, or because of feminism. Trying to connect feminism with husbands being present at birth is just about the silliest thing I’ve heard here on CI. Second only to corporal punishment for wives would be ‘normal’ in better days. 
No. A true feminist would deem her husband unworthy and a nuisance bothering her during her self centered, and most painful experience. 
I disagree wholeheartedly. The father belongs there for it all. 

No one is saying that doulas and midwives aren’t valuable and that they haven’t cared for women but fathers have also been very important throughout history in childbirth. It’s the way nature designed it to be. The father is there to concieve the child with similar hormones and he is there to help her give birth to the child with the exact same hormones. Any midwife or doula would tell you the same thing. That’s why they usually encourage the man to take an active role beforehand. Not just nearby but touching the woman and being next to her. 

There has to be physical contact for extra oxytocin to start from the husband. And doulas can do this too. You may have a book to reference, but that doesn’t mean that invalidates the experiences of many societies previously. St. Elisabeth started a hospital where she delivered many babies and she encouraged the husbands to be at the event. This is medieval times shockingly so I wouldn’t say your knowledgeable people are always going to be correct. Also, some families keep records and diaries going back to the 1870 so it would indeed be recorded. Not going to argue this to death though. 

 I could pick a book that tells me that a certain famous historical person was gαy but it wouldn’t be true necessarily. What time period? Motive of author? How much research? Etc etc? You can find a book for any opinion these days. When it comes down to it, it really is personal preference. Why do you feel so strongly about this topic, Jayne?

I think the father has a right to see his baby being born though. It’s one of the most beautiful moments of life. Unless the mother is not going to deliver safely because it would make her too upset. Again, it depends.

I do believe that the unnatural phenomenon of husbands in the delivery room is directly linked to Feminism in their campaign to totally "femininize" the men, and destroy "toxic masculinity" in all its forms. It's like they want them boys to pretty much experience and "feel" whatever the girls feel and go through in life, including in the delivery room, which is beyond ridiculous!.

Women usually have highly emotional and zero logical reasons to want their husbands in the delivery room. Many will regret it later on. I think this is just a product of the feminist society modern women grow up in. As JayneK said, it has become an expectation upon men, completely unheard in previous times. Many times it is a actually a selfish expectation of women; but modern men are told that they are jerks if they wait outside. Also, America is first in this phenomenon. Many other cultures around the world still don't do it.

I do believe that the unnatural phenomenon of husbands in the delivery room is directly linked to Feminism in their campaign to totally "femininize" the men, and destroy "toxic masculinity" in all its forms. It's like they want them boys to pretty much experience and "feel" whatever the girls feel and go through in life, including in the delivery room, which is beyond ridiculous!.

Women usually have highly emotional and zero logical reasons to want their husbands in the delivery room. Many will regret it later on. I think this is just a product of the feminist society modern women grow up in. As JayneK said, it has become an expectation upon men, completely unheard in previous times. Many times it is a actually a selfish expectation of women; but modern men are told that they are jerks if they wait outside. Also, America is first in this phenomenon. Many other cultures around the world still don't do it.

I’ve never regretted my husband being there, and watching all the many emotions on his face was extremely bonding. Was he upset he couldn’t help with pain? Sure. Did that distract me? No, because that’s honestly a weak excuse in itself. We were there for each other, and him being in the room watching his children be borne is just as important for a new father as it it the other. 
In fact once men started being in the room the many abuses of women during labor were stopped. Husbands are their wives greatest defenders, and once they started saying how wrong the treatment was things changed. Is that fair to women? Hmm.. maybe not? But thank God for husbands entering the birthing room. Where would we be without our white knights? In twilight births, or being shaken around in sheets. 

I’ve never regretted my husband being there, and watching all the many emotions on his face was extremely bonding. Was he upset he couldn’t help with pain? Sure. Did that distract me? No, because that’s honestly a weak excuse in itself. We were there for each other, and him being in the room watching his children be borne is just as important for a new father as it it the other. 

If you want others to respect your experience of childbirth then you need to show respect for the experience of others.  What right do you have to dismiss someone else's experience as "a weak excuse"?  Why are you trying to prove that the way you did things is the only legitimate choice for everyone?  

Couple's can decide for themselves if they think that having the husband present is important or necessary.  Everyone's situation is different.

When trying to determine what happened in the past, we are looking for an objective answer. But you don't get to treat your personal experience as the objective norm for everyone.

Women usually have highly emotional and zero logical reasons to want their husbands in the delivery room. Many will regret it later on. I think this is just a product of the feminist society modern women grow up in. As JayneK said, it has become an expectation upon men, completely unheard in previous times. Many times it is a actually a selfish expectation of women; but modern men are told that they are jerks if they wait outside. Also, America is first in this phenomenon. Many other cultures around the world still don't do it.

I wouldn't say that having the husband there is necessarily feminist but I can see feminist influence in the way that some people treat it. The birth belongs to the woman and the husband is the servant who follows her orders. If she would like to swear and curse at him, that is perfectly fine.  Men (and even women) who don't want to do it this way are shamed and ridiculed. 

Women often want their husband present, not because they actually feel a need for him, but because this is what everyone does.  It is like getting a big diamond engagement ring or going on an expensive honeymoon.  It is something to show off to one's girlfriends to say "look how much my husband loves me."

Pressuring men by equating attending birth with love is just wrong. 

Classic ad hominem .  You can't answer the question so you change the subject to an irrelevant personal attack.  

I am claiming that one cannot simply assert that a right exists. One must make an argument to establish it's existence.  "You're a feminist if you disagree with me" is neither a logical nor compelling argument.

Uhm, fathers have authority and rights over their wives and children.  Period.  That right only ceases when the father commands something against the moral law, Church law, divine law.  You have not established that there's some moral prohibition against fathers being there.  To claim that a father has no such right is clear feminism.  YOU are the one who needs to make an argument stripping the father of this right.  Not the other way around.  Burden of proof is squarely on YOU, but you try to spin it around.

NOTE:  Classic appeal to the victim card when you can't rebut the argument.