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Re: Outside of indult
« Reply #225 on: August 03, 2026, 05:11:00 PM »
Quote from: Gray2023 on August 03, 2026, 05:05:00 PM
Another thought.  Why was the Sistine chapel allowed and then changed and then changed again?  The body is it evil or is it beautiful?

Ballet dancing is not dirty dancing.  Is tap dancing bad?  Is country line dancing bad? Is Irish dancing bad? Is square dancing bad?  It can all get very complicated fast.  There is not a simple answer.  Unless we become puritans.  No alcohol  No make up.  No driving cars.  No swimming.  No showering.  :trollface:  Yes I am getting a little silly with the topic.  I am signing off until tomorrow.
It's not complicated AT ALL.  If one wears MODEST CLOTHING, you can dance all you want.  Exceptions would be admittedly sensual dances that have already been church-condemned (i.e. salsa).

I don't understand how you can continue to NOT understand why ballet is wrong -- because of immodest dress.  Ballet is NOT DEPENDENT upon the leotard/tights.  Unless you think it is, then, in that case, ballet is off-limits. 

If you can't fathom a world where ballet dancers wear knee-length dresses and actual shirts ---then, yes, I agree with you, ballet is not allowed.  At all. 
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Re: Outside of indult
« Reply #226 on: August 03, 2026, 05:31:23 PM »
Quote from: Gray2023 on August 03, 2026, 04:47:51 PM
So can ballet be danced if the costumes are modest?
The passage was translated as follows:

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While the dance certainly heightens this danger, it is not the sole cause of it. 

 Perhaps someone proficient in French could tell us if that's accurate

Regardless, I don't see how a movement such as the "grand jeté", or the "développé", or the "arabesque" can be modest no matter what the dancer is wearing
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Re: Outside of indult
« Reply #227 on: August 03, 2026, 07:02:58 PM »
Quote from: laststand on August 03, 2026, 10:11:40 AM
I've always been under the impression dancing between men and women is on par with foreplay. 
This is correct. In the book on modern dances (like the waltz) it was mention that the dances are trying to have pleasures that are not lawful for them to have.
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Re: Outside of indult
« Reply #228 on: August 03, 2026, 07:05:14 PM »
Quote from: laststand on August 03, 2026, 10:11:40 AM
dancing allowed, it must be done privately between the husband and his wife with no other witnesses. But maybe that is sinful too. 
Its fine if they are married and no one sees. But if they are not married it's inappropriate, if someone sees it's scandalous. Yes fathers should not be dancing with their daughters.
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Re: Outside of indult
« Reply #229 on: August 03, 2026, 07:09:16 PM »
Quote from: Justinian on August 03, 2026, 02:48:33 PM
Pope Pius XII met with the world’s top ballet dancers in 1952 and called ballet 'a hymn of praise to the Creator.' He saw them in full ballet dress and blessed the art. If the outfits were sinful, I think he might have mentioned it don’t you?

Pius XII to Choreographers and Dancers, 16 Nov 1952 - Key excerpts:

The same Pope that allowed people to learn the heresy of evolution? The same Pope who started liturgical changes? The same Pope who elected bad Cardinals and bishops? You can't be this foolish..
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