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Re: Outside of indult
« Reply #50 on: Yesterday at 04:47:32 PM »
Oh man I guess the relationship between the parents from Pope Saint Pius X was no good (41 and 20), or between our Lady and St Joseph (12-15 and 30+).Trad boomer mentality strikes again. You both want your daughters to get married past 25/30?
With men being stymied by the economy, women marrying a similar aged man implies the daughter should marry around or after 30. Plenty of temptations for her to leave the house.

I recall St. John Vianney saying something to the extent of "married women will have to answer to God for the children they do not have". We always use this is in reference to them using birth control. However, I definitely believe this also applies to women getting married far later than what God actually wanted. After all, a woman who gets married at 30 will almost always have fewer children than if the same woman got married at 20.

Re: Outside of indult
« Reply #51 on: Yesterday at 04:56:41 PM »
Oh man I guess the relationship between the parents from Pope Saint Pius X was no good (41 and 20), or between our Lady and St Joseph (12-15 and 30+).Trad boomer mentality strikes again. You both want your daughters to get married past 25/30?
I’m not a boomer 🤣 but I want my children to marry the right person and am not so concerned about whether they’re 23 or 30 when they marry. Each individual is different and I think we can agree Our Lady and St Joseph were pretty special 😇


Re: Outside of indult
« Reply #52 on: Yesterday at 05:01:43 PM »
I recall St. John Vianney saying something to the extent of "married women will have to answer to God for the children they do not have". We always use this is in reference to them using birth control. However, I definitely believe this also applies to women getting married far later than what God actually wanted. After all, a woman who gets married at 30 will almost always have fewer children than if the same woman got married at 20.
Here is the sermon https://motherofgodlibrary.org/2024/01/09/on-christian-marriage-st-john-vianney/

"Married people were shown the nobility of their calling, and he exhorted them to fulfill holily its duties. A lady of the name of Ruet, of Ouroux, in the department of the Rhone, had already a large family, and was about to become a mother once more. She came to Ars in order to seek courage at the feet of the holy Cure”. She had not long to wait, for M.Vianney summoned her from among the crowd. “You look very sad , my child,” he said, when she was on her knees in the confessional. “Oh I am so advanced in years, Father.” “Be comforted, my child…if you only knew the women who would go to hell because they did not bring into the world the children they should have given to it.” God killed Onan for practicing birth-control. He wasted his seed on the ground because he did not want to raise up seed by his brother, and God slew him for it, Gen. 38:10. The seriousness of the punishment shows the seriousness of the crime."

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Re: Outside of indult
« Reply #53 on: Yesterday at 05:35:37 PM »
With men being stymied by the economy, women marrying a similar aged man implies the daughter should marry around or after 30. Plenty of temptations for her to leave the house.

I recall St. John Vianney saying something to the extent of "married women will have to answer to God for the children they do not have". We always use this is in reference to them using birth control. However, I definitely believe this also applies to women getting married far later than what God actually wanted. After all, a woman who gets married at 30 will almost always have fewer children than if the same woman got married at 20.
Here is the sermon https://motherofgodlibrary.org/2024/01/09/on-christian-marriage-st-john-vianney/

"Married people were shown the nobility of their calling, and he exhorted them to fulfill holily its duties. A lady of the name of Ruet, of Ouroux, in the department of the Rhone, had already a large family, and was about to become a mother once more. She came to Ars in order to seek courage at the feet of the holy Cure”. She had not long to wait, for M.Vianney summoned her from among the crowd. “You look very sad , my child,” he said, when she was on her knees in the confessional. “Oh I am so advanced in years, Father.” “Be comforted, my child…if you only knew the women who would go to hell because they did not bring into the world the children they should have given to it.” God killed Onan for practicing birth-control. He wasted his seed on the ground because he did not want to raise up seed by his brother, and God slew him for it, Gen. 38:10. The seriousness of the punishment shows the seriousness of the crime."

Wouldn't the same principal apply to men, not fathering all the children that they should? I know it's futile to bring up the point because you'll likely just cite some of the biology; technically men can father children into advanced age while conveniently ignoring the fact that men's fertility also decreases with age.

It would seem to me that if you were really serious, you'd be out chasing tail, getting married and making trad babies instead of griping on the internet.
 
Out of touch trad boomers are annoying but I can't say I'm too taken with autistic trad zoomers who are masters at exculpating themselves from any hint of responsibility either. 

Re: Outside of indult
« Reply #54 on: Yesterday at 05:53:39 PM »
Wouldn't the same principal apply to men, not fathering all the children that they should? I know it's futile to bring up the point because you'll likely just cite some of the biology; technically men can father children into advanced age while conveniently ignoring the fact that men's fertility also decreases with age.

It would seem to me that if you were really serious, you'd be out chasing tail, getting married and making trad babies instead of griping on the internet.
 
Out of touch trad boomers are annoying but I can't say I'm too taken with autistic trad zoomers who are masters at exculpating themselves from any hint of responsibility either.
Hey, tough guy. Parents are responsible for assisting their children to find a spouse. The parents are shirking their responsibilites and you have the temerity to blame it on the young men? Women hold completely different responsibilities than men do in courtship and marriage. It's a buyer's market for traditional women. Not so for men. You are simping just like the boomers that you claim to rail against.

Also did you seriously conflate chasing tail (fornicating) and sacramental marriage together?

Check yourself, man.