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« on: August 21, 2018, 03:47:49 PM »
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  • Does anyone understand what the our lady of knock apparitions mean, or why she appeared with St John emphasising "revelations"
    The church doesn't understand it or can't figure it out, there is no direct interpretation on it - so what are we meant to take from this apparition? 


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  • I did a little research. St. John the Evangelist is important, for he was in the vision along with St.Joseph.  Another interesting point:  The parish priest said 100 masses for the Poor Souls and then the apparition took place.

    What is an opinion is that the Mass would take changes.  I would guess that this idea is coming from the revelations of St. John.  I read them but I would have to go over it again.  But Chapter 12 of Daniel does say that the Mass will come to an end.  This is not mentioned much from the pulpit, that is my opinion.  I have not heard it.  But the Redemptoris Priests, do state this in their paperback book, "The Holy Eucharist."


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  • If you would like prophecies of these times go to: Maria-Julie .  There were 3 volume booklets (37 -45 pages each) that were put together and distributed by Fr. Leblanc.

    they are paperback "The Prophecies of La Fraudais. Translation and comments by Yves Dupont.  He is the same author of the book "Catholic Prophecies" by Tan publishers.

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  • A GREAT series of articles on Knock and how this apparition ties to the appearances of Our Lady at both LaSallete and Fatima.

    https://traditioninaction.org/religious/a056_Knock_1.html

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    Re: our lady of knock
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  • Does anyone understand what the our lady of knock apparitions mean, or why she appeared with St John emphasising "revelations"
    The church doesn't understand it or can't figure it out, there is no direct interpretation on it - so what are we meant to take from this apparition?

    La Salette and Knock

    An allegorical interpretation given to me with further comments

    Ufortunately I was unable to post pictures and illustrations.

    Heaven’s awareness of the freemasonic revolution against Christ and His Church was made known first to a French nun Sister Marie de St Pierre (1816-1848) and then by her request at La Salette in France on Sept. 19, 1846, where a crowned Mother of God is said to have appeared to two children. Three popes, Pius IX, Leo XIII and Pius X, approved this apparition, but the messages, of which ‘Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist’ was the most shocking, were met with furious opposition from many bishops. It seems the Masons and some Masonic-controlled clergy already ensconced in the Church, must not have wanted any such messages to be taken seriously.

     PICTURE OF STATUE OF OUR LADY OF LA SALETTE 

    Thirty-three years after the apparition, on 20th August 1879, a basilica at La Salette was consecrated, and the following day, August 21st, the cardinal Archbishop of Paris in France (representing the Melchisedech Priesthood and Melchisedech Kingship) performed a canonical coronation of the statue of the Virgin of La Salette according to the prescription of the sacred Congregation of Rites.

     PICTURE OF IRELAND   and   PICTURE OF CROWNING

     On the very same day as this coronation, 21st August 1879, as only heaven can co-ordinate, there occurred an active but silent apparition at Knock, [1] a small town in west Connaught, Ireland, a place ‘ruggedly inhospitable and not conducive for agriculture.’

     On a miserable wet evening, in a meadow field outside the gable-end of the Knock church of St John the Baptist, a small church ‘dedicated to all the nations of the world,’ there occurred an active but silent (i.e., the figures were speaking but could not be heard) apparition. The vision, as we see below, which lit the immediate area with a brilliant light, included images of St Joseph, a crowned Virgin Mary, St John the Evangelist, and against the wall, the Lamb on a bare altar with a cross behind and above it in the traditional manner found in churches before Vatican II, it of course representing Christ and the Sacrifice of the Catholic Latin Mass of the time, codified at the Council of Trent (1545-1563). Never before in history did the altar appear in a vision from heaven. Surrounding the altar were spots of brighter light, representing angels, as in Genesis I, ‘and God said, be light made.’ This vision, mounted on an invisible platform over the tall grass, showed St Joseph with hands joined, face bowed looking towards Mary and the altar, the Blessed Virgin, with her arms held apart, praying to heaven. Add to this a vested and mitred St John, superimposed between Mary and the altar, holding a book (his Apocalypse?) in one hand while gesturing in a preaching stance with the other. St Joseph, with his head bowed and glancing sideways, was isolated, separated by a mysterious black line, noticed only by a few of the observers and seldom mentioned in books on the apparition.
    Replica of apparition 

    https://www.google.ie/search?q=picture+of+knock+shrine&biw=1024&bih=684&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=_WiCZ8tbY_LWpM%253A%252Cw-OyAs3FoH0dWM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQ4E1hzzLKaPlNtKFqsjTx7CzZZZg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjnpufuhsDeAhXDy6QKHeLZDcgQ9QEwCnoECAYQGA#imgrc=_WiCZ8tbY_LWpM:

    The Parish Priest of Knock at the time was Archdeacon Cavanagh, a saintly man, full of devotion to Our Lady and her Immaculate Conception. In May of 1879, Fr Cavanagh began a novena of 100 Masses for the souls in Purgatory, the final Mass being said on the morning of the day that the vision appeared, but as divine Providence would have it this saintly priest was not to witness the vision. A reason for this could be to save the vision from accusations of being conjured up by a priest so pious and spiritual that the world may not have believed him, suggesting it was a hallucination. Instead it was to be witnessed by a group of fifteen people, men and women of all ages, from five to seventy-five, the likes of which could be found anywhere in the world among ‘all nations.’ Such a group could not be said to have had similar illusions, nor could a motive for any conspiracy be levelled at them all. Great miracles later gave final witness to its authenticity, indeed my own sister was cured of St Vitas Dance after one visit to Knock.


     
    'Though the Knock witnesses experienced various emotions – happiness, wonder, devotion, exaltation of spirit, one being moved to tears – not one of them was rapt in ecstasy. None of them heard a word; neither did they receive any interior message or sign. That the Mother of God, who bade Bernadette pray for sinners, who had pleaded for conversion of life at La Salette, for prayers and penance at Fatima, should have remained silent to her devoted Irish children was, and still is, a stumbling block to many. There was no message, they say, so the Apparition is devoid of meaning.’ [2]

     Of course there was a message, similar to every other message from Heaven, warning of dangers and ways to save souls. Heaven does not indulge in meaningless pictures, but few, if any, could/can fully understand this strange apparition at Knock. It is obvious the apparition at Knock cannot be interpreted by way of theological norms, that is, like looking at a holy picture portraying a biblical scene. The main reason for this is because Knock was not a simple ‘Marian’ message but almost certainly a Johannine one, and, like parts of St John’s Apocalypse (book of revelations), has to be read in an allegorical sense. So, we can ask, (1) How can it be interpreted? (2) Why Knock: (3) Why was it silent? (4) What could the message of Knock be telling us? 

    Before one can possibly try to understand Knock, one must fully accept and try to comprehend the war declared by God in Genesis 3:15 between the Christ and the antichrists, a battle of ‘Principalities and Powers,’ an ongoing conflict carried out on a temporal and spiritual plane at the highest level.

    How can it be interpreted?

    While there is no doubt the apparition is dominated by the lamb and altar, that is, the Catholic Mass of the time, the rock upon which the Catholic Church rests, in this case symbolised by a forlorn lamb on an empty altar backing on to the wall of the Church of St John the Baptist, other aspects of the vision are not clear at all. Accordingly it must be interpreted by way of allegory, by accuмulating knowledge of all with regard to the vision, its images, its timing, its place and then trying to draw conclusions from them. This way of interpretation was made known by St Paul in his Letter to the Galatians (Celts) 4:24: ‘things are said by an allegory’ - a form of exegesis thrown out by Martin Luther and one that is hardly ever found among modern Catholics. Scholars on the origin of European peoples tell us that a fair number of the old and true Galatians (Celts) had migrated up throughout Europe on to Ireland and settled here and even to this day many there still speak the Gaelic language. Thus there is a connection between the people of Knock and the allegorical nature of the Knock message.

    Why Knock?

    For many years now, Knock is depicted as a Marian shrine. Marian shrines however were places that the Virgin Many appeared alone to give her message made known by her words. Knock was different, far different, for it had the Virgin praying while a mitred St John the Evangelist holding a book (his Apocalypse?) seems to be the one giving the message. The Church that Heaven chose to use at Knock was a small church named after St John the Baptist, with its inscription on the west wall that reads: ‘My house shall be called the house of prayer to all nations. This is the gate of the Lord: the just shall enter into it.’ The standard interpretation of Knock is one of Marian comfort to the people of Ireland who had undergone famine and poverty in that century.[3] The vision, using ‘the gate to all nations’ however, suggests it was a message to the whole world. This combination of the two St Johns indicates the vision was not Marian, but ‘Johannine.’ Be aware that the entire profane religion of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, built on the great truth of esoteric Catholicism can be termed Johannism, they having chosen St John the Baptist and St John the Evangelist as the patron saints of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, a religion seen by the popes of the time as deadly enemies of God and His Church.[4]   

         The Biblical Apocalypse of St John the Evangelist tells of the snatching of divine fecundity by the dragon as the mystic issue is born at the foot of the cross. This then is why the Gnostic Masons chose the two St Johns to profane among all the saints? The probable reason is to arrogate to themselves symbolically the divine fecundating power of St John the Baptist in his baptism and that preserved alive in St John the Evangelist (and Mary, the mother of Jesus) between Calvary and Pentecost, a fecundating or generation power impossible to Lucifer. Be aware also, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ was active in Ireland and even the village of Knock at this time, just as it was in Fatima in 1917, working away doing the work of the Devil. It is this connection with the two St Johns that leads us to believe the Knock apparition was also a response to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, by then, 1879, well advanced in its plan to eliminate the influence of the Catholic Church on Earth.

    ‘Grand Lodge of Ireland is the second most senior Grand Lodge of Freemasons in the world, and the oldest in continuous existence. Since no specific record of its foundation exists, 1725 is the year celebrated in Grand Lodge anniversaries, as the oldest reference to Grand Lodge of Ireland comes from the Dublin Weekly Journal of 26 June 1725. This describes a meeting of the Grand Lodge to install the new Grand Master, the First Earl of Rosse on 24 June. The Grand Lodge has regular Masonic jurisdiction over 13 Provincial Grand Lodges covering all the Freemasons of the island of Ireland, and another 12 provinces worldwide.’ --- Wikipedia.

     MASONIC PICTURE OF THE TWO ST JOHNS 
     

    Here above is the Masonic symbolism for phallic fecundation by word, the profane version of the fructification of the waters by Word which we shall not elaborate on. This Masonic picture shows the two St Johns, John the Baptist on the left and John the Evangelist on the right. Of profound importance in Albert Pike’s revelations is the reference to the Johannites and the fact that by then, 1870, the ‘Order that has existed for centuries in despite of its anathemas, has its Sanctuaries and Asyla even in Rome.’ [5]       

    Why was it silent?
     
    In the plan of God for men, He set up many a hierarchy: one being a chain of communication between God, the Pope, a King, down to the people scattered throughout the kingdoms. Such a link began when Constantine placed his kingdom into the society intended by Christ. Later the Pope would crown the King of the Franks with divine approval. The Pope would represent heaven, taking his authority from God Himself. The king would take his authority from the Pope and so on down to the common people. Rome in turn made provision for this hierarchy by providing a special place at Church Councils for those kings loyal to God, the Church, the Pope and his definitions, declarations and social instructions.
    Responding to heaven’s challenge to Satan’s dominion, in a master plan from hell, the earthly Freemasons would devote themselves to eliminating the worldwide Christian society. To sever this relationship all one had to do was remove the temporal kingship and whole nations could be lured into apostasy just as whole peoples were Christianised through king and country. Breaking this crucial link between God and His people was the first step in Satan’s counter-offensive in the war of Genesis 3:15. What is not commonly known is that the Freemasons claimed complete victory after the First World War, a war, as we know, begun by a planned assassination. At Vatican I in 1870, only one kingdom; that of Portugal, remained in the royal box giving public witness of their loyalty to the Church.
     
    “Two months before the invasion of Rome, Pius IX had presided over the final session of the Vatican Council. In contrast to the opening a year before, St Peter’s was almost deserted. In the royal box, there were two ladies, one of them the Infanta of Portugal (The royal title of the Kingdom of Portugal), as well as a decrepit officer with the Order of St Januarius blazoned across his chest. The diplomatic box, too, had many vacant seats. The Great Powers had instructed their ambassadors to boycott a function in which there was no mileage for them.” --- Vicars of Christ: The Dark Side of the Papacy by Peter de Rosa ...
        
    The symbolic end of God’s terrestrial Principalities occurred when the Pope had to surrender to the freemasonic forces laying siege to the last of the Vatican states by raising the white flag of surrender in 1870, 40 years after Our Lady predicted the same date in her message to St Catherine Laboure in 1830. Giuseppe Garibaldi actually sat on the chair of Peter vacated by Pius IX. The timing here was deliberate, for it interrupted the Council itself, preventing God knows how many definitions of faith that might have thwarted the freemasonic-led Modernists that were emerging at the time.
        
    We could then interpret the silence of the vision as experienced by all the fifteen who witnessed it to the fact that the traditional means of public communication between God and His people, that is, through the hierarchy between God, Pope and king down to the flock, had by then been eliminated in the once Catholic countries of Europe by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ. It is Interesting to note that the apparition of Our Lady of Hope at Pontmain, France, in the same year of Vatican I (1870) was also silent. In that case however, letters in the sand were provided that spelled out the message. But there was no such communication at all in Knock.
         This interpretation of silence is not affected by the fact that in 1917 there was a ‘speaking’ intervention between heaven and a multitude on earth, for Fatima is in Portugal, the last remaining kingdom at one with God’s kingship at the council, the one land where such a public communication might take place. Now there may be some who would contend that the endless series of ‘Marian’ visions at Mudjugorje shows this interpretation to be untrue. But Medjugorje of the ‘lying wonders’ is not Catholic, not from heaven, more like movies from hell. The ‘visions’ of Mudjugorje, if true, allegedly began on the Masonic hour on the feast of St. John the Baptist (June 24th 1981), the adopted patron of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ with its passion for symbols and secret signs. Satan, we know, or should know, will do whatever it takes to spread relevant error. In this case he has attracted millions of Catholics (and many non-Catholics) to this country, gets them on their knees praying, confessing, fasting or whatever, and then delivers to them a large slice of false democracy, ecuмenism and error. Docuмented evidence, as well as personal conversation with some that regularly went there and who found this out for themselves, has convinced us that there is on offer here from ‘the Virgin’, the hoary old freemasonic idea that all religions must be moulded into one universal religion, the ‘all roads lead to heaven’ belief, for we all supposedly have the same God. In other words there is a rejection here of the dogma that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.

    What was the message of Knock?  

    I WILL CONTINUE IF REQUESTED.

    [1] From the Gaelic word Cnoc, a hill.
    2] Mary Purcell, Our Lady of Knock, p.18.
    3] See Wikipedia.
    [4] Five Papal Bulls have been directed against Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ by name, in 1738, 1751, 1821, 1826, 1864, and Pope Leo XIII would warn the Catholic world against it in Humanum Genus within five years of Knock (1884).
    [5] Albert Pike (1809-1891), Grand Master of the Ancient Scottish Rite of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.




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  • I pulled this from casinni’s post on Knock above..

    “The symbolic end of God’s terrestrial Principalities occurred when the Pope had to surrender to the freemasonic forces laying siege to the last of the Vatican states by raising the white flag of surrender in 1870, 40 years after Our Lady predicted the same date in her message to St Catherine Laboure in 1830. Giuseppe Garibaldi actually sat on the chair of Peter vacated by Pius IX. The timing here was deliberate, for it interrupted the Council itself, preventing God knows how many definitions of faith that might have thwarted the freemasonic-led Modernists that were emerging at the time.”

    St Joseph was in the apparition and he was described as off to the side and isolated with a black line separating him from the others (if I explained that correctly) 

    I find it interesting that St Joseph was declared Patron of the Universal Church in 1870 by Pius IX, with a feast day added to the calendar. And then in 1955 Pope Pius XII abolished the feast and established another for May 1st, St Joseph the worker. 

    Also to note, John XXIII added St Joseph to The Canon in 1962. 
    Some Traditionals saw it as very scandalous and controversial. 
    Would be interesting to see how all these moments in recent history concerning St Joseph relate. 

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    What was the message of Knock?  Apologies for delay Anon, and for different sized paragraphs. It happens when I paste.
     

    The next step is to try to interpret the ‘message’ of Knock. In the first place it is obvious that the Lamb on the altar dominates this vision, that is, the holy sacrifice of the Mass, celebrated by the Catholic priesthood. To this end we note the presence of St Joseph, a ‘son of David’, as we know from the Gospels, making him a Melchisedech priest (even though St Joseph never used his priesthood), and whose status was completed by divine Providence at Vatican I making him Patron of the Universal Church. He, like the Lamb on the altar is isolated, almost ‘out of the picture’ so to speak, and this was confirmed when that black line was later revealed, separating the vision into two frames. In other words, the Melchisedech priesthood of the Church is here ‘outside,’ just as the vision itself was placed ‘outside’ the Church of St John the Baptist.
         Mary wears the rose and crown, symbols of those Principalities now lost. In other words she is now representing the lost Kingdoms, she being the unshakable Queen of all nations. The Blessed Virgin is looking to heaven, her hands raised as Advocate or Orante, that is, in the manner of a priest during the Canon of the Mass, pleading, to her Son to avert some disaster to come. St John the Evangelist stands beside the altar, clearly reading from his Book of Revelations that foresees all things to come.

    It is here we will show others with knowledge of the ongoing battle of Principalities and Powers, one of those instruments used by Satan to do his work of eliminating all means of graces that are needed to save souls from Hell, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ. Here below they illustrate their position at the time of Knock. 
     
    And that great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, who seduceth the whole world. And he was cast unto the earth: and his angels were thrown down with him.’ (Rev. 12:9.)

     Beneath we see the Masonic serpent with three heads. Two of these are raised, signifying the Masonic victory of the sword over the Melchisedech Kingship of Christianity. Not yet achieved at the time - its head still on the ground - is victory over the Melchisedech priesthood represented by the papal tiara on the serpent’s head. Let us recall here the ‘Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita,’[1] otherwise known as the ‘Alta Vendita Plan’ discovered in 1820, which speaks of working for a generation that will rejoice in having a pope ‘according to our wants’ and of a clergy who will ‘march under our banner in the belief always that they march under the banner of the Apostolic Keys.’ Significant also, is the symbol of Masonic-equilibrium, (false teaching) the ladder, dominating all.


    [1] The secret papers of the Alta Vendita (written in the early 1800s), highest lodge of the Italian secret society, the Carbonari, acquired by Pope Gregory XVI and, on the orders of Pope Pius IX and Pope Leo XIII, was published by Cretineau-Joly in his work The Roman Church and Revolution, reprinted in 1885 and many times since.

    So, is there anything else of an allegorical nature about Knock that can give us a clue to the message? Yes there is, but we must now delve back into history to find it. On May 15th, 1213, King John, yes John, offers the Kingdoms to God through the Apostles Peter and Paul.
     
    ‘I, John, by the grace of God king of England and lord of Ireland,
    from this hour forward will be faithful to God and the blessed Peter and the Roman Church,
    and my lord the Pope Innocent and his successors following in Catholic manner.’

     May 13, 1879 was the eve of the completion of 666 years since the act of consecration of Ireland and England. On the following day the 100 Masses that precede the apparition begin. In August 1649, the Puritan Oliver Cromwell, a British military and political leader invaded Ireland to quell an anti-Protestant revolt, conquering all he met. In response to Cromwell’s campaign to destroy the Christian Kingdom of Ireland, the Catholic Ecclesiastical Congregation of the Kingdom of Ireland met at Clonmacnoise on the 4th of December 1649, and issued a Motu Proprio, with reference to the English government’s intention to ‘extirpate’ (eradicate or destroy completely) the Catholic religion, warning Catholics not to be deceived by those supposedly acting in the name of God.[1] Given the universal nature of a proprio motu, i.e., a message for ‘all nations’, we feel there is a continuity and connection between the three elements mentioned here.    
      
    ‘Take away the Mass, destroy the Church’ … Martin Luther.

    ‘The Devil has always, by means of heretics, to deprive the world of the Mass. Making them precursors of the Antichrist, who before anything else, will try to abolish, and will actually abolish the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass as a punishment for the sins of men, according to the prediction of Daniel, “and strength was given him against the continual Sacrifice.”’--- St Alphonsus.
    It was Cromwell who imposed the Penal Laws against the majority of Roman Catholics in Ireland, as well as confiscating a substantial amount of their lands and dwellings. These were a series of laws imposed in an attempt to force Irish Roman Catholics to accept the Protestantism of England. Cromwell, that docuмented Satanist who conquered in the name of his god, was one of the first to usurp the divine right of kings by purging his own Charles I of England, a Protestant married to a Catholic, and replacing him with the beginnings of freemasonic ‘democracy,’ where men and not kings subservient to God, would rule the world according to their own laws. Cromwell, who committed untold atrocities against the Catholic Irish, first and foremost hated the Catholic Mass. A champion of ‘liberty of conscience’ or ‘religious liberty,’ but this liberty did not include the traditional Latin Mass. Cromwell, a Satanist as we said, knew that the Mass of all time, the Mass of Trent, the Council that condemned Protestantism, was the way of Catholicism. He knew that to destroy the Mass was to destroy the priesthood, and destroy the Catholic Faith. Accordingly, Catholic priests were killed and expelled, with penalties as severe as death to those caught saying the Mass and punishment for those Catholics caught attending it. Here is a picture depicting Cromwell’s soldiers finding such a Mass.



    [1]See, for example, Tom Reilly, Cromwell, Brandon Books, Dublin, 1999, pp. 292-3.


    It was during these times, in 1653 that Cromwell, having taken the lands off Catholics in Leinster, Munster and Ulster and given them to his soldiers and friends, ordered the remaining 850,000 Catholics of Ireland to be deported as slaves to the West Indies or go ‘To hell or to Connaught,’ that is to the west counties of Ireland or be killed. All Catholic priests not immediately killed at sight during the war were to get out of the country by 1654. Choosing Connaught to execution, many Catholics moved into this desolate, infertile and barren west of Ireland where they continued to be persecuted in any event. It was their descendants and those of the Celts who resided there from early times that occupied Knock in Connaught in 1879, the time heaven chose to give its warning.

     Final Interpretation
     God never leaves us ignorant. It is plain to see that God chose La Salette and then Knock to warn Catholics of the greatest battle of all to come, another attempt to try to eliminate traditional Catholicism and the Latin Mass of Trent by replacing it with one similar to that of Oliver Cromwell. Nowhere else in the history of the world after Holy Thursday was there a heavenly mention of an attack on the Mass of all time. In no other vision in history was the lamb on the altar portrayed. The Message here is delivered by St John the Evangelist, author of the Book of Revelation, the Book of Prophecy; the Book predicting a great apostasy incorporating the Beast, the forces of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.[1] Given the Mass is the source of grace that enables Catholics to know and keep the faith and thus Christianity alive and well, there is no doubt Knock was a reminder of Our Lady’s warning that  of an attack on the Mass, its priesthood, and Catholicism to come throughout all the Catholic nations on Earth.


    [1] Five Papal Bulls have been directed against it by name, in 1738, 1751, 1821, 1826, 1864, and Pope Leo XIII would warn the Catholic world against it in Humanum Genus within five years (1884).

    Hindsight

    There is of course yet another means by which the interpretation of Knock can be known; by way of time itself. In 1884, five years after the apparition at Knock, Pope Leo XIII had an experience of his own, hearing the Lord allowing the Devil 75 to 100 years to try to destroy Catholicism on Earth. Unlike those trying to interpret the message of knock in 1879, and for many years after that, we now live in times well past those 75 to 100 years and can now see for ourselves what happened to Rome as La Salette predicted, the Catholic Mass of Knock and its priesthood, the one that Oliver Cromwell had tried to suppress and substitute, a Mass defended like so in 1570:
     
    “Quo Primum” is a papal bull decreed by Pope St. Pius V on July 14, 1570, which set in stone for all time the exactness of the holy sacrifice of the Mass to be said in the mother tongue of the Church. To quote his instruction: “t shall be unlawful henceforth and forever throughout the Christian world to sing or to read Masses according to any formula other than that of this Missal published by Us; ...” Another: “... which shall have the force of law in perpetuity, We order and enjoin under pain of Our displeasure that nothing be added to Our newly published Missal, nothing omitted therefrom, and nothing whatsoever altered therein.” Another: “In the case of those resident in other parts of the world it shall be excommunication ‘latae sententiae’ and all other penalties at Our discretion ...” Finally: “Should any person venture to do so, let him understand that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of the blessed Apostles Peter and Paul.”

    While not set in ‘infallible stone,’ the intent of this pope was to secure the unity the Latin Mass gave to Catholics worldwide. By then Protestantism with its own form of vernacular ‘service’ was spreading throughout Europe, breaking up into many different churches, all Christian unity gone. Now while very minor additions were added to the Catholic Mass right up to 1962 by different popes, the Latin Mass remained the same, its graces, instructions and Holy Communion kneeling on the tongue helping millions to keep the faith world-wide and drawing many, many vocations to the priesthood.
       
    On 28 October 1958 however, at age 76, Cardinal Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli was elected pope taking the name Pope John of course; yes John, the first to do so in 500 years. Accordingly he became Pope John XXIII, the same name as the last Pope John XXIII (1410-1415) who was declared an anti-pope by the Church. Soon after his election John XXIII called a council of the Church, Vatican II. He said the call came to him in a dream. From where that dream came from we can only guess. Pope John XXIII promised a ‘renewal’ in the Church that was flourishing at the time. History records tradition was ‘thrown’ out of Vatican II to be replaced by ‘renewal,’ especially by way of ecuмenism, not a renewed conversion of non-Catholics but an acceptance of non-Catholicism without conversion. As regards the Mass, well it too was renewed to make it more compatible to ‘all in the world.’ To begin with, it was proposed the language of the Mass be changed from the Latin to the vernacular, the language of peoples all around the world. Cardinal Ottaviani said of this move:

     ‘To abandon liturgical tradition which for centuries was both the sign and the pledge of unity of worship (and to replace it with another which cannot but be a sign of division by virtue of the countless liberties simplicity authorised, and which teems with insinuations or manifest errors against the integrity of the Catholic religion) is, we feel in conscience bound to proclaim an incalculable error.’ 

     Everything Ottaviani said came to pass. First the Latin was abolished, and then its format was altered and important parts of the old Mass were disposed of. Altars were torn out of their original positions, replaced with tables, just like the Protestants use for their ‘meal.’ The priest now faces the people with his back to the tabernacles of the old churches. Holy Communion, the actual body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ, is now distributed to the hand to queues lining up to receive. What was once the same Latin Mass worldwide, signifying a unity in Catholicism, became a potpourri with additions now according to the wishes of each parish priest, to accommodate such things from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs to clowns to animals, happy-happy clapping, talking events, some including women, dancing in the sanctuary, all now docuмented by way of video. Gone is the fact that the Mass is an enactment of the events of Calvary. Can one imagine such behaviour in front of a sacrificing Christ dying on the Cross? Needless to say, millions abandoned these graceless Novus Ordos, priests left their duties in their droves, vocations dried up, seminaries, convents etc., emptied and Catholicism lost all its influence in the world.
         Nevertheless, the traditional Latin Mass of Trent and Pope Pius V survived in the era of the Novus Ordo. In particular, a society of priests, the SSPX, was founded with the intention of keeping the Latin Mass and traditional teachings of the Church alive. Their Masses and traditional teachings were sough out by Catholics shocked by the ‘renewed’ doctrines and Masses of Vatican II.

     Knock Today

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    Muslims, Protestants and Syrian schismatics welcome, but not the Latin Mass of Trent.

    In Ireland there was a traditional SSPX pilgrimage to a Mass rock first and then on to Knock for rosary and devotions. In recent years the authorities at Knock allowed the Latin Mass to be said in the church of the Apparition, with the usual 15 decades of the rosary and devotions afterwards. In 2017 however, on informing the authorities of their proposed visit they were told they were forbidden to say Mass in any of the Knock buildings. Members of the annual trip decided they would bring a tent with them for the Mass. On September 15th, 2017 however, two young priests of the Society, one American and the other Australian, with a congregation of around 100 men, women and children, upon their putting up the tent were asked to take it down and leave the grounds of Knock. This order was questioned and one of the security men went off to check up on it. When he returned the message was clear, yes, the group was to vacate the Knock shrine grounds and not to return for their rosary or anything as a group.  The reason given was that the Society of Pope Pius X are ‘canonically irregular.’ Given the SSPX is a society of priests, the 100 or so on the pilgrimage with them were wondering if they too were considered ‘irregular’ when told not to come back for their rosary? The two priests were shocked to say the least but told all to leave quietly and with dignity. It seems heretics and schismatics are welcome in Knock, but those Catholics dedicated to the traditional teaching of Catholicism and the Mass of all ages are no longer welcome. It was raining at the time. Given there was ‘no room at the inn’ they looked for somewhere to say their Mass. As it happened, a restaurant car-park owner gave permission for the priests to say their Mass in it. Kneeling in the wet mud, the priest, under an umbrella, Christ’s sacrifice was re-enacted. The pilgrims then said the full rosary along the streets of Knock village.

    By their Fruits you will know them

    The good Lord told us: ‘By their fruits you shall know them.’ Could anyone be in any doubt now that the apparition at this same church of St John the Baptist of  21st August 1879, foretold the return of Cromwell’s hatred and suppression of the traditional Latin Mass. It is almost unbelievable that those who are now implementing Cromwell’s orders to suppress the Mass defended by Pope Pius V, do so under orders from Rome, the same Rome Our Lady at La Salette warned ‘would become the seat of the Antichrist.’ The Mass that Pope Pius V tried to protect was abandoned by Rome. With it went the graces necessary to remain Catholic, obedient to the commandments of God and His Church. What are left in the Novus Ordo church now obey their own conscience, which as often as not differ from the teachings of the Church. Proof of this came in Ireland when ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ ‘marriage’ was voted into law by a majority. In 2018, the same Catholic majority of Ireland voted to remove from the Irish constitution all rights of the unborn, allowing their abortion according to civil law.

     Comment by a friend.

    ‘Many of my ‘Novus Ordo’ friends go on regular day trips/pilgrimages and visits to Knock Shrine. They return seeming more and more confused about the Catholic Faith, relating wonderful testimonies delivered by ‘speakers,’ mostly non-practicing ‘pick’n mix’ lay Catholics or non Catholics. They attend Guided Prayer Sessions given by ‘mufti’ nuns promoting New Age ideologies. ‘Healing Services’ are offered in the middle of Mass after the Gospel, announced as ‘The Sacrament of the Sick.’ I stood in the line at one of these ‘Sessions’ myself to inquire from the priest if this was ‘Extreme Unction’ as I didn’t know there were eight Sacraments. He became a bit uneasy, and said ‘Speak to me later.’ I declined! Catholics are being as seriously misled in Knock as they are now in Novus Ordo churches. I believe its present practices are a danger to the Faith. How sad! I would never go there again unless I could be part of a Traditional pilgrimage similar to one I experienced three years ago when I was privileged to attend a SSPX pilgrimage there. Holy Mass was offered in the Apparition Church (with permission). So many ‘modern’ people joined with the ‘irregular’ group that the church was overflowing. The priest had to return to the altar to subdivide the Sacred Host many times during the distribution of Holy Communion. It was like the miracle of the loaves and fishes. Everybody received, kneeling and on the tongue. There was silence in the church that day. Our Lady was truly at the Foot of The Cross of Calvary. My guess is that this didn't go unnoticed by the ‘Powers that Be.’
     On September 16th 2017, they ensured that the regular pilgrims would not witness the True Mass.
     May Our Lady of Knock restore the Mass of all ages to our altars. (Imelda Tobin).