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Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
« on: September 28, 2017, 11:49:04 PM »
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    SPX recently closed down our chapel, sold the church, and the $ and remaining property goes to them.

    Central part of US.

    The parish started in 1970.  40+ members remain still needing the Mass and sacraments, independent of the Novus Ordo religion.  3 new families. 16 children.

    Most are not sede or support the resistance.  In my opinion, if we are to survive, the priest would be an independent, preferably not sede or resistance--at least not publicly or officially.  Apolitical.  Of course properly ordained and trained.

    Questions:

    1. Is there a directory or list somewhere online that lists independent priests with contact info?

    2. Can anybody recommend an independent priest?

    We will submit fully to him as our pastor, give him a very generous stipend, shower him with assistance and encouragement, and make him feel very welcome.

    We can only pray and hope for such a priest.  Thanks in advance.
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    Re: Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
    « Reply #1 on: September 28, 2017, 11:52:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 28, 2017, 11:49:04 PM
    (Wishing for myself to be anonymous)

    SPX recently closed down our chapel, sold the church, and the $ and remaining property goes to them.

    Central part of US.

    The parish started in 1970.  40+ members remain still needing the Mass and sacraments, independent of the Novus Ordo religion.  3 new families. 16 children.

    Most are not sede or support the resistance.  In my opinion, if we are to survive, the priest would be an independent, preferably not sede or resistance--at least not publicly or officially.  Apolitical.  Of course properly ordained and trained.

    Questions:

    1. Is there a directory or list somewhere online that lists independent priests with contact info?

    2. Can anybody recommend an independent priest?

    We will submit fully to him as our pastor, give him a very generous stipend, shower him with assistance and encouragement, and make him feel very welcome.

    We can only pray and hope for such a priest.  Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
    « Reply #2 on: September 28, 2017, 11:53:55 PM »
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    • They are sede
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    « Reply #3 on: September 28, 2017, 11:56:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 28, 2017, 11:53:55 PM
    They are sede

    Your point being what sir/ma'am?

    Ever hear the saying "Beggars can't be choosers." ?

    Regardless, if you're lost and the only guy around to give directions is a wino, and no I'm not saying that about MHFM, but if that's what you have, then are you going to stay lost?
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    Re: Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
    « Reply #4 on: September 29, 2017, 01:04:21 AM »
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    • If it is mortal sin to miss Mass, then it must be mortal sin to close down chapel and leave sheep without shephard.  

    Was this the same chapel who bravely prayed the Rosary outside civic center which hosted the devil. 
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    « Reply #5 on: September 29, 2017, 01:14:23 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 29, 2017, 01:04:21 AM
    If it is mortal sin to miss Mass, then it must be mortal sin to close down chapel and leave sheep without shephard. 

    Was this the same chapel who bravely prayed the Rosary outside civic center which hosted the devil.

    It isn't necessarily a mortal sin to miss Mass; what we are commanded to do is to sanctify the day, which normally means mass attendance.

    Why would it necessarily be a mortal sin to close a chapel, politics, canonical status etc. aside?

    Japan was 'closed' and 'without a shepherd' for ~250y.
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    Re: Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
    « Reply #6 on: September 29, 2017, 01:41:08 AM »
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    • Go to the Traditio website and check under priests wanted/available:

    http://www.traditio.com/pri.htm

    Good luck!
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    Re: Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
    « Reply #7 on: September 29, 2017, 05:20:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: AJNC on September 29, 2017, 01:41:08 AM
    Go to the Traditio website and check under priests wanted/available:

    http://www.traditio.com/pri.htm

    Good luck!
    Thanks.  11 priests.  Hmm.   Not many.  I'll email them, but does anybody knoa of any other directories.  Please help.   I dont want to turn to the Pfeiffer-ites or Pope Michael.  
    Bishop Taylor'a SVM group comes nearby.  But are they properly ordained and educated?  I dont know.  The used to have a website.
    We must got the shaft here so we are still in shock mode.  But any info you can give would help us.
    Again most are of the SSPX mindset but open to an independent priest as long as he is not officially sede like that's part of his mission as a priest.  For some sede priests, it is a major issue.
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    Re: Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
    « Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 05:58:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: DZ PLEASE on September 29, 2017, 01:14:23 AM
    It isn't necessarily a mortal sin to miss Mass; what we are commanded to do is to sanctify the day, which normally means mass attendance.

    Why would it necessarily be a mortal sin to close a chapel, politics, canonical status etc. aside?

    Japan was 'closed' and 'without a shepherd' for ~250y.
    I never understood why people use this analogy. Yes it's true that "Japan was "closed" for 250 years", but then what?..........the country overall have been worshipers of Buddha for the last 250 years - no?

    I mean, it's not like we can say "they were closed and they came through it just fine - look at how holy they are today" - right?   
    If anything, the truth associated with that analogy actually demonstrates what happens after 250 years when a country goes without priests/Mass/etc.. that is, the whole country loses the faith starts worshiping false gods - no?
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    Re: Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
    « Reply #9 on: September 29, 2017, 06:07:48 AM »
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    • Japan is still 1% Catholic... It's never had a majority with the Faith ever. The people who were Catholic were a very, very small persecuted few. Their descendants likely are still Catholic.
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    Re: Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
    « Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 06:09:52 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 29, 2017, 06:07:52 AM
    It is very hard to understand something, when you think that it is something else.

    Also, it would seem that what was claimed to be a miracle by a pope must not be so miraculous after all, at least if this place is any measure.

    It would additionally be prudent to reflect on what has been said, again and again, about appealing to the popular, i.e. numbers.

    At least one of you is affiliated with "the Remnant" for crying out loud, so think for a change.

    At the very least, please never invoke the likes of S. Athanasius or refer to the Arian crisis to bolster your position again.

    Now, about the THREAD, and the ACTUAL TOPIC...
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    Re: Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
    « Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 06:11:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on September 29, 2017, 05:58:03 AM
    I never understood why people use this analogy. Yes it's true that "Japan was "closed" for 250 years", but then what?..........the country overall have been worshipers of Buddha for the last 250 years - no?

    I mean, it's not like we can say "they were closed and they came through it just fine - look at how holy they are today" - right?    
    If anything, the truth associated with that analogy actually demonstrates what happens after 250 years when a country goes without priests/Mass/etc.. that is, the whole country loses the faith starts worshiping false gods - no?
    I find it strange that no Japanese priests were ordained, or Koreans. There was relatively free travel between people of those two countries. Obviously not?. I read somewhere that the Japanese Catholics did not retain the true faith. They mixed it up with the local religion and it became a hash mash. There was even a photograph alongside the article that showed a family altar that housed both Catholic and Shinto/Buddhist images.
    In the early nineties a priest from California told us that if we don't get Mass at least every month or so we will find it tough to hold on to the faith. In my case I would say he was right.
    There are enough Traditional priests to go around these days. Nobody is exactly rushing to become a Trad.
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    Re: Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
    « Reply #12 on: September 29, 2017, 06:12:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 29, 2017, 06:07:52 AM
    It is very hard to understand something, when you think that it is something else.
    Particularly when it is clear that the end result of going without a priest for 250 years is Buddhism.
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    « Reply #13 on: September 29, 2017, 06:15:17 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on September 29, 2017, 06:15:03 AM
    You can almost smell the charity and justice wafting through the air...

    "Way to suck Japanese Catholics!"

    Oh, S. Alphonsus and the pope needn't have bothered either.

    You people are unbelievable.

    Now, ABOUT THE TOPIC...
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    Re: Our Chapel needs a Priest. Please Help!
    « Reply #14 on: September 29, 2017, 06:18:54 AM »
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    • You need to understand that the Resistance isn't about "politics", it's just those who prefer the old SSPX position which the SSPX themselves has abandoned.

    You are saying you want an SSPX priest who isn't with the SSPX. That's what you're asking for.

    What you're asking for doesn't exist, if you exclude the Resistance.

    Don't accuse groups or people of being "controversial" or "political" as if that was something they were doing on purpose. Our Lord Himself was a highly "controversial" figure. Of course it would be blasphemous to infer that He was somehow flawed because of that.

    "In a time of universal deceit, it becomes a revolutionary act to tell the truth."

    You think I like being "Resistance"? Maybe I'm just a counter-culture type of guy, who likes to fight, who likes politics, or perhaps I'm just never content? Maybe I wasn't happy until a good excuse to fight came along? WRONG! I was perfectly content in the SSPX for years. I was even in one of their seminaries for 3.5 years and NOTE that I didn't ever quit. They dismissed me (giving no real reason). Note the stability.

    I wasn't a restless nomad when it comes to groups, chapels, etc. Please, give it some thought.

    Matthew
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