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OLOS Phoenix problem?
« on: September 06, 2025, 08:23:28 PM »
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    • Does anyone have reliable information about the ordination status of David Fulton at OLOS?
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #1 on: September 06, 2025, 08:44:32 PM »
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    • Jewgle has spoken ex cathedra on the question. See attachment.
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #2 on: September 06, 2025, 09:06:28 PM »
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    • As I understand the situation, it was discovered that the new replacement at OLOS Phoenix, allegedly a Novus Ordo escapee, has not been conditionally ordained. I heard that parishioners were upset and scheduled a meeting with the Prior, Fr. MacFarland, but the meeting was canceled.

    Can anyone confirm or provide additional details? Any and all reliable background is appreciated.
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #3 on: September 07, 2025, 12:28:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 06, 2025, 08:23:28 PM
    Does anyone have reliable information about the ordination status of David Fulton at OLOS?
    He has certainly not be conditionally ordained as told by Father Fabula. Also, as more proof about is non-ordination, they have significantly ramped up their propaganda machine on the validity of NO ordinations over the past few months (ever since Mr. Fulton's assignment was announced) in an effort to control the conscience of the faithful before they even have a chance to ask questions.

    There is grave reason to suspect he is not validly ordained as a Catholic priest and unfortunately his sacraments are at the very least positively doubtful. 

    But people can't think for themselves and a random parish priest's opinions supersede Catholic common sense and the teaching of the Church (I guess) so everyone is going to receive "sacraments" from him anyway. 
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #4 on: September 07, 2025, 01:41:57 AM »
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    • I wouldn’t receive Sacraments from him or attend Mass there. Who knowingly takes a chance with Mass and Sacraments? It’s like telling someone, there’s a 5% chance your dinner contains cyanide, but you’ll eat it anyway, right?  95% it’s just fine!  
    :fryingpan: No, thank you! God wants me to fast. 
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #5 on: September 20, 2025, 05:13:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 06, 2025, 09:06:28 PM
    I heard that parishioners were upset and scheduled a meeting with the Prior, Fr. MacFarland, but the meeting was canceled.
    The two or three scheduled meetings I heard about weren't canceled.
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #6 on: September 20, 2025, 08:53:03 PM »
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    • Well, did you just hear about them or go to them?
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #7 on: September 20, 2025, 10:18:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 20, 2025, 08:53:03 PM
    Well, did you just hear about them or go to them?
    I heard about them. I wasn't able to attend.
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #8 on: September 20, 2025, 10:20:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 20, 2025, 10:18:31 PM
    I heard about them. I wasn't able to attend.
    How did you hear about them?

    Was there an announcement in the bulletin that I missed?
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #9 on: September 20, 2025, 11:03:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 20, 2025, 10:20:35 PM
    How did you hear about them?
    Directly from the attendees of one of the meetings.
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #10 on: September 20, 2025, 11:03:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 20, 2025, 10:20:35 PM
    Was there an announcement in the bulletin that I missed?
    No, these were private scheduled meetings.
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #11 on: September 20, 2025, 11:15:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 20, 2025, 11:03:35 PM
    No, these were private scheduled meetings.
    The outcome of which is…???
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #12 on: September 21, 2025, 01:49:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: Crayolcold on September 07, 2025, 12:28:03 AM
    He has certainly not be conditionally ordained as told by Father Fabula. Also, as more proof about is non-ordination, they have significantly ramped up their propaganda machine on the validity of NO ordinations over the past few months (ever since Mr. Fulton's assignment was announced) in an effort to control the conscience of the faithful before they even have a chance to ask questions.

    There is grave reason to suspect he is not validly ordained as a Catholic priest and unfortunately his sacraments are at the very least positively doubtful.

    But people can't think for themselves and a random parish priest's opinions supersede Catholic common sense and the teaching of the Church (I guess) so everyone is going to receive "sacraments" from him anyway.

    It would be great if it was a parish priest's opinion, but no matter what words they use, they are not parish priests. This used to be an important title, bestowed upon worthy men, who studied for more than ten years to become priests, and had quite some more years working as assistant priests.

    The notion that your regular Traditionalist priest is anywhere near as prepared or knowledgeable as parish priests of old is a bad joke that many people seem to accept as true.
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #13 on: September 21, 2025, 06:55:24 PM »
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    Re: OLOS Phoenix problem?
    « Reply #14 on: September 21, 2025, 06:56:03 PM »
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