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« on: July 30, 2013, 03:08:15 PM »
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  • What do you think of older women marrying?  By "older," I mean women who are past their childbearing years.  Of course, the Church permits such unions, but do you think they are advisable?  Does it matter whether the woman is a widow or not?  Does it matter the age of the man?

    I ask because if a woman is past her childbearing years, it would seem the primary end of marriage will not (barring a miracle) be accomplished, and both parties know this from the start.


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    « Reply #1 on: July 30, 2013, 03:24:19 PM »
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  • I have no opinion. They should do what is best first for their sanctification and then consider temporal needs.

    I do appreciate the unique situation where widows and widowers, even those marrying late in life, might like the companionship and the financial security that a marriage can bring. It is hard to grow old and be poor and unable to provide. It must also be a joy to receive the graces of the sacrament and draw spiritual strength from it.


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    « Reply #2 on: July 30, 2013, 03:31:04 PM »
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  • St Paul says that it is better for widows to remain as they are.  
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    « Reply #3 on: July 30, 2013, 04:00:03 PM »
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  • It is the higher calling to remain unmarried for single and widowed alike.  

    But both men and women can suffer for lack of companionship in their older years.  Some people aren't spiritually strong enough to be alone when they are facing all the difficulties of old age.  Some don't have the family and friends to fill in the gaps of loss and loneliness.  I also don't think there are (I don't know of any) monasteries or convents that would accept older people.  They seem to only want young people.


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    « Reply #4 on: July 30, 2013, 04:05:20 PM »
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  • Unity is the second reason for marriage.  So I say it's okay as long as the elderly woman is a widow or a never-married.  


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    « Reply #5 on: July 30, 2013, 04:16:41 PM »
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  • If the widow has children, I would say it is incuмbent on her to marry as soon as she can for the sake of the children. Of course, I am assuming our widow has dependent children. A widow with, let us say, a married son in his thirties (who could and ought to support her), three married daughters and a son who is a priest would not have that difficulty.

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    « Reply #6 on: July 30, 2013, 04:51:27 PM »
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    If the widow has children, I would say it is incuмbent on her to marry as soon as she can for the sake of the children. Of course, I am assuming our widow has dependent children. A widow with, let us say, a married son in his thirties (who could and ought to support her), three married daughters and a son who is a priest would not have that difficulty.


    Sadly it is such a problem that we as traditional Catholics are not as supportive of widows as we could be. I would include myself in this, I know that I've never really done much to help widows. Also, unfortunately, I know of cases where women have been abandoned by their husbands and have been left to care for a whole family on their own. They are almost like widows, too, and they can't remarry, so they are also in need of support.

    Wow. This has really been eye opening, I guess I've been skimming over that part when I read Catholic books!

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    « Reply #7 on: July 30, 2013, 04:54:23 PM »
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    ...the Church permits such unions, but do you think they are advisable?  ....


    An older woman may marry, as you acknowledge here.

    Whether or not she should is up to her, in the light of her circuмstances and ability to cope with life and the life of another.

    The ultimate question is "Will the two help each other to attain eternal salvation?"

    Do you have a personal interest here or is the question "academic"?
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    « Reply #8 on: July 30, 2013, 05:08:50 PM »
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  • Widowhood is a very respectful calling.

    Parishes should help take care of them, take up collections for them, help in every way. Like it used to be.

    From what I've read, of the saints I've read recommend widows stay widows and not remarry, but it is not forbidden. I haven't read too much on the subject. Here are some quotes on widows.


    'I consider it useless to speak to women advanced in years, and who, nevertheless are thinking of a second marriage. Could any words of mine convince them, when neither years, nor age, nor experience has been able to make them forego their purpose? Hence, I speak to young widows. We go on cheerfully with an enterprise whose beginnings have been favorable; but if we fail at the outset, we give up everything. Therefore, a young widow, it seems to me, ought to be all the further from a second marriage, because she has known sorrow and widowhood so early in life. In remaining a widow, she is sure of her future, and protects herself against similar misfortunes. Though the state of widowhood is the same for all widows, the rewards differ widely, and are more brilliant for some than for others. The widow who, while yet young, undergoes the yoke of continence, deserves more honor and glory than another who takes up the practice only in her old age.'

    St. John Chrysostom

    'Alas! They allege, as reason for their marriage, the very thing that ought to prevent them from doing so; for, by her second marriage, the widow places over her children, not a father who will provide for them, but an enemy. If you have children, why marry again? And if you have none, does not experience teach you to fear a like barrenness in the future?'

    St. Jerome
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    « Reply #9 on: July 30, 2013, 05:58:03 PM »
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  •  :dancing:
    As an older woman, never married, no children, past child-bearing years, no extended family to provide should I live past being unable to provide for myself, yes, I would consider marrying if God provided a husband.  Should a miraculous event occur, all the better!  (A mother of a work colleague gave birth to her last child, number 13, at age 56!)  She thought she was done, had even given away the baby items, but God had another plan.  The surprise "child" is 26 and herself, married and a mother of three, last I heard.  Grandma is still living at 83 or 84!  She is a widow, but has children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren to care for her.
    As shin said, the parish "ought to" to provide for the elderly who have no family, but the sad fact is that Catholics leave it to the government and don't care about the old.  As for myself, I leave it in God's Hands.  If He knows I will save my soul by marrying, then He'll provide a husband.  If He knows someone else will provide, that's what will happen.  If the way to save my soul is to die of neglect, so be it.  Maybe I'll die suddenly and old age won't be an issue!  My job is to stay in a state of grace, to be found in His Favor.  
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