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Re: NSFW Is foreplay permissible in a Catholic marriage?
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2019, 12:26:43 PM »
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  • Maybe Matthew should have an Anonymous Men's only section.

    As to the one who started this topic, I would suggest you ask a Priest you trust. 


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    Re: NSFW Is foreplay permissible in a Catholic marriage?
    « Reply #46 on: December 05, 2019, 01:08:27 PM »
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  • You are familiar with the concept of sharing in another's sins, aren't you?
    Failing to discipline an error when such correction is possible makes you an accomplice to Poche's sins.
    You have to point to a sin. 
    I and everyone else on CathInfo contradicts Poche 24/7. 
    I make sure his error is sufficiently demonstrated and contradicted, thank you very much.
    Being honestly duped that the Conciliar Church is completely legit is not a sin, to the best of my knowledge.
    There is an unprecedented Crisis in the Church, remember. Wicked men have deformed the Church under the banner of fidelity and obedience.
    I keep that in mind always.

    Matthew


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    Re: NSFW Is foreplay permissible in a Catholic marriage?
    « Reply #47 on: December 05, 2019, 01:19:54 PM »
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  • You have to point to a sin.
    I and everyone else on CathInfo contradicts Poche 24/7.
    I make sure his error is sufficiently demonstrated and contradicted, thank you very much.
    Being honestly duped that the Conciliar Church is completely legit is not a sin, to the best of my knowledge.
    There is an unprecedented Crisis in the Church, remember. Wicked men have deformed the Church under the banner of fidelity and obedience.
    I keep that in mind always.

    Matthew
    Perhaps you missed the docuмentation of his LIES, SINS AGAINST THE 8th COMMANDMENT. 
    I would not suggest banning him for his N.O. alignment any more than I would suggest banning Meg for her conflation of heresy and legit opinions.
    He LIES in your living room at our family gathering. You beg the question, do you let your dog poop in your living room just because we can see it and walk around it? How full of poop do you want your living room?
    Here the links to Poche's LIES again:
    Poche willfully falsified the Matthew 16:18. He substituted "you" for "it" to bolster his equally phony contention about Jorge. 
    Quote from: poche on November 07, 2019, 04:55:39 AM
    "And the gates of Hell shall not prevail against you" -Jesus to Peter
    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/is-francis-the-pope/msg674301/#msg674301
    He also lied when he claimed that Jorge "preached against the тαℓмυd" https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/pope-francis-said-51197/msg672784/#msg672784 and that Jorge was "paraphrasing St. Paul" when Jorge said Jesus “made himself the devil.” https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/pope-francis-said-51197/msg671082/#msg671082 
    He has lied that Jorge has “the same view” on the Jєωs as Pope St. Pius X. https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/another-gift-for-the-rabbi/msg675367/#msg675367  Directly to their faces Pope St. Pius X told the Jєωs of Jesus Christ and their need to convert. Jorge is the diametric opposite, not “the same.” Jorge confirms тαℓмυdic Jєωs in their Faith and teaches their heretical dogmas to Catholics. Several examples here: http://judaism.is/st.-francis-on-francis.html#тαℓмυdicantipope 
    Here is Jorge's full allocution: https://zenit.org/articles/holy-father-continues-catecheses-on-acts-of-the-apostles/
    "…precahed agianst the тαℓмυd"? There is not one word about the тαℓмυd, not one stinking word.
    Second, contrary to Poche's assertion that Jorge preached "how Christianity is distinct from the Jєωιѕн religion,"  https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/pope-francis-said-51197/msg672784/#msg672784  Jorge uses the metaphors of "the Open Door," "the common way," "synodality,"  Instead of making a distinction, Jorge proposes an indifferentist blend of Christ and Belial: "relation between faith in Christ and the observance of the Law of Moses."  The only "relation" recognized by the perennial and infallible Magisterium is that the Law of Moses died with Christ on the Cross—and, as expected, that dogma is entirely missing in Jorge's subversion.
    Third, Jorge cannot bring himself to teach de fide supersessionism, that the Law of Moses is dead, so instead he infers тαℓмυdic Noahidism: "ask them only to reject idolatry and all its expressions." So Jorge did not "preach against the тαℓмυd" as Poche claimed. Jorge did the exact opposite; he preached тαℓмυdic Noahidism.
    He constructed three lies in one run-on sentence!
    These are not mere differences of opinion, but OUTRIGHT LIES, poop in your living room.

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    Re: NSFW Is foreplay permissible in a Catholic marriage?
    « Reply #48 on: December 05, 2019, 04:22:53 PM »
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  • Buy this book, it gives you the Catholic principles on when certain pleasures become licit or illicit.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895554720/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0895554720&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />
    I have this book.  It may be in the beginning of the book somewhere or maybe I read it elsewhere, but it's my understanding that this book was written to help priests educate/form the consciences of Catholics oftentimes in the confessional....pre-Vatican II.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: NSFW Is foreplay permissible in a Catholic marriage?
    « Reply #49 on: December 05, 2019, 04:28:03 PM »
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  • Another analogy.

    Do you have pets?

    Do you let your dog poop in your living room just because people can recognize it's poop and can walk around it?

    How full of poop will you let your living room get?
    Poor analogy.  It would be one thing if the thread was discussing the topic outside of what is permissible within marriage according to Catholic teaching.  But it's not.  Given many Catholics these days do not have access/easy access to a true Catholic priest to ask these questions, where do you suggest they go?  Not to mention, it's anonymous! For once the anonymous sub-forum is being used for an appropriate purpose!
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: NSFW Is foreplay permissible in a Catholic marriage?
    « Reply #50 on: December 07, 2019, 11:13:50 AM »
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  • If a husband were to for example, touch his wife's breasts or buttocks, would that be sinful?
    Is it permissible for the husband to do it outside of the marital act?
    That's ridiculous.