Author Topic: Novus Ordo is evil (Read 926 times)

Änσnymσus · « **on:** August 22, 2013, 01:49:33 PM »

Our children have two grandmas and a nana.

Grandma #1 is Trad, but lives over a thousand miles away.
Grandma #2 is Novus Ordo, and wrote an e-mail to my wife saying that "X is the limit. And they are only welcome to visit as long as both parents are there." We now have X + 1 children.
Nana is in the picture due to divorce-remarriage. She is non-religious. While secretly hostile to Catholicism and everything it stands for, she is polite enough to the parents (barely) so she can see the kids. She is the most friendly and involved with the kids out of all of them. Not just throwing money at them, but actually spending time with them, being kind to them, doing things with them, taking them places, etc.

My wife pointed out yesterday the reason we don't visit Grandma #2 much anymore: that infamous e-mail. "We're over the limit."

How sad that a non-Catholic accepts our lifestyle choices -- and our children -- better than a novus ordo Catholic.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #1 on:** August 22, 2013, 02:14:24 PM »

My parents visited us from far away this past week. Mrs. Charlemagne and I are expecting our fifth child. When I told my dad, he was happy. I didn't tell my (Novus Ordo) mom because I remembered that when we announced our fourth was on the way, her first response was, "Was that planned?" Beautiful. Anyway, as we sat down to dinner on the first night during this latest trip, my mom said, "I understand that you have an addition to your family on the way. Well, once a mother, always a mother, and all I can say is, there are many things I'm worried about. And that's all I'll say about that." It's probably a good thing that that's all she said, because she was close to being asked to leave. What an insult to me and my wife - right in front of our children. As they say, you can choose your friends but not your family. My comfort comes from Our Lord: "He that loveth father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me."

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #2 on:** August 22, 2013, 02:16:23 PM »

When I got married and had my first two children, (girl and boy) mother-in-law, now R.I.P. told me, we had the All American Family, time to stop. Of course we had 4 more babies after that making that a total of 6 gifts from God.

Don't let the turkeys get you down.

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** August 22, 2013, 02:19:34 PM »

Baby Boomers can be so foolish!

Age doesn't necessarily make them wise, either. In fact, I know plenty of twentysomethings that have many Boomers beat, hands-down, when it comes to wisdom.

Baby Boomers -- the first generation in the first culture (ever) that didn't value a large family. Do people realize how rare that is? Pretty much every culture on earth, past or present, values children as a legacy, a heritage, a continuation of one's line.

Until the 20th century, that is.

Now the entire Western world -- basically America and all the countries that imitate her -- rejects children for various reasons.

When the world is Muslim, people like these Baby Boomers will only have themselves to blame.

TCat · « **Reply #4 on:** August 22, 2013, 02:20:27 PM »

99.9 of novus ordo catholics cannot be properly Called Catholics. They disagree with everything and anything just to justify their own failed church and all its flaws. They don't look for a solution, they like the way things are and protest the misgivings of REAL Catholics who are sincere enough to want to do something about it. The church is the way it is now because it abandoned what it stood for, and in return the people abandoned the church.
Best to cut yourself off from novus ordos. I should do it myself but I don't, when I talk to them I always feel like crap afterwards because they run you down with cruel criticism that is not even logical as if they in their great wisdom (sarcastic) know everything and say everything is the way it should be already. They are just not logical and have no interest in philosophy or theology and are just complete assholes and idiots I have found.
The few exceptions are the pay pray and obey crowd but they pass off themselves as believers when in truth they have not looked into the faith deeply and accepting things as they are they show their true colours.
:detective:

Charlemagne · « **Reply #5 on:** August 22, 2013, 02:28:56 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Baby Boomers can be so foolish!

Age doesn't necessarily make them wise, either. In fact, I know plenty of twentysomethings that have many Boomers beat, hands-down, when it comes to wisdom.

Baby Boomers -- the first generation in the first culture (ever) that didn't value a large family. Do people realize how rare that is? Pretty much every culture on earth, past or present, values children as a legacy, a heritage, a continuation of one's line.

Until the 20th century, that is.

Now the entire Western world -- basically America and all the countries that imitate her -- rejects children for various reasons.

When the world is Muslim, people like these Baby Boomers will only have themselves to blame.

I can't remember who said it, but many years ago I heard someone say that Baby Boomers are so selfish and materialistic not through their own faults, but because of the so-called Greatest Generation. The argument was that those who were returning from WWII and who lived through the Depression said, "I had nothing growing up! My children will have everything they want and more!" To accomplish this, small families were a must - and on and on it goes.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #6 on:** August 22, 2013, 04:09:34 PM »

Vatican II played a large role in the cultural shift to smaller families.

If you ever visit a novus ordo church (just to smirk, not to worship), look around and see all the bored faces and those bored faces are attached to familes with a child max of two, sometimes three.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #7 on:** August 22, 2013, 06:55:03 PM »

In my personal experience, I think it was the Greatest Generation that really ushered in the "nuclear family" ideal. My paternal grandparents had 3 children. My maternal grandparents had 2 children. My grandfather's brother had 2 children. My grandmother's sister had 2 children. Another sister had only 1 due to her H leaving her (she was the only devout Catholic in that family). My grandmother's brother had 2 children. Her sister had 1 child.

My maternal grandmother came from a family of 4 children. My paternal grandmother came from a family of 5 children. My maternal grandfather came from a family of more than 6 children but several died, and there was only 3 children who lived to old age. My paternal grandfather came from a family where he only had 1 brother. I don't know if their were health issues there.

But remember also that the Lambeth Conference of Protestant denominations was held in 1930-1933 (?) and that really was the beginning of the contracepting mentality.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #8 on:** August 22, 2013, 07:09:44 PM »

When we were getting married (we weren't young) my MIL told my DH "Of course you're too old to have children so if she is so Catholic how is she going to avoid pregnancy? Because she'll have to use birth control and that proves she's not really Catholic." This from my Catholic MIL.

My Protestant mother said "congratulations."

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