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Title: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 19, 2020, 09:50:42 AM
I know there are many causes and excuses for weight gain. But it's a fact that if you eat less calories than you expend, you will lose weight. I could name names, but I know several priests who are past middle age, even pushing old age, who are still in good shape. But these priests are very apostolic, and they frequently fast. They live a hard life of travel and mortification. But meanwhile, many other priests work to make their life perfect (easy life, nice priory, no overwork, good setup) and are rewarded on earth by gaining weight. That's what happens when your life is too easy. It's not just priests. Men strive to make their lives easy and convenient, and when they succeed, it only harms them physically. If your life doesn't cause you to delay or skip meals on a regular basis, you're pretty much going to gain weight eventually.
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 19, 2020, 10:00:18 AM
No, it's also about insulin cycles and metabolism.  I always find myself gaining weight during Lent even though my total calorie consumption goes down.  My wife (through my father-in-law) inherited a genetic disposition where they have a hard time gaining weight even when they try.  My oldest son takes after them.  He can (and does) pack away 5,000 calories a day without gaining an ounce of body weight.  I, on the other hand, need merely look at a piece of cake to put on a pound.

Also, carbs can be a factor.  Carbs tend to be cheap, so if you're trying to save money (or don't have a lot), you tend to eat more carbs, and those increase body weight.

So it's incredibly unfair (and borderline slanderous) to extrapolate from body weight to virtue or the lack thereof.  As I said, my son cannot be confused with being extremely temperate and virtuous, and yet he's rail thin.  On the other hand, there are people constantly on diets and calorie restrictions and fasting who just can't keep the weight off.
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 19, 2020, 10:05:15 AM
Also, sometimes for priests, if they're travelling a lot, they tend to just eat garbage ... whatever they can conveniently find or pick up on the way (rather than good well-rounded meals).
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 19, 2020, 11:04:24 AM
No, it's also about insulin cycles and metabolism.  I always find myself gaining weight during Lent even though my total calorie consumption goes down.  My wife (through my father-in-law) inherited a genetic disposition where they have a hard time gaining weight even when they try.  My oldest son takes after them.  He can (and does) pack away 5,000 calories a day without gaining an ounce of body weight.  I, on the other hand, need merely look at a piece of cake to put on a pound.

Also, carbs can be a factor.  Carbs tend to be cheap, so if you're trying to save money (or don't have a lot), you tend to eat more carbs, and those increase body weight.

So it's incredibly unfair (and borderline slanderous) to extrapolate from body weight to virtue or the lack thereof.  As I said, my son cannot be confused with being extremely temperate and virtuous, and yet he's rail thin.  On the other hand, there are people constantly on diets and calorie restrictions and fasting who just can't keep the weight off.

I completely agree. Except it can't be slanderous when no name was given. Slander is about purposely lying, not just having an unfavorable opinion, about an individual so as to damage their good name. We shouldn't throw around words willy-nilly. Anyhow if you took 100 people and restricted their caloric intake by 25%, most of them would lose weight. It's not magic. So there you have it. You know what they say about exceptions and the general rule.
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 19, 2020, 01:09:23 PM
That's never made sense to me. I haven't been in any town in twelve different countries where there is only junk food with no healthy options for miles. On the contrary, in the US there are always Walmarts and other supermarkets with plenty of salads, fruits, and wholesome meals available. If a free person eats junk food, it's almost always their choice, particularly because many don't even want to prepare their own food. Either they want a "party in their mouth" every time they eat or they are flat out too lazy to cut fruit, too lazy to assemble dishes, and if available, too lazy to wash produce and too lazy to cook! There are 24 hours in a day, don't give me the "I have no time" excuse.
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 19, 2020, 01:38:43 PM
I understand your point but some say St Thomas Aquinas as well as St Theresa of Avila were a bit “round”.  St Padre Pio as well as some Friars at San Giovanni developed a belly in their later years.

We shouldn’t judge a book by its cover.  Father Feelgood with the large belly, nice car and confey rectory may carry a heavier cross than you can imagine.
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 19, 2020, 05:37:29 PM
That's never made sense to me. I haven't been in any town in twelve different countries where there is only junk food with no healthy options for miles. On the contrary, in the US there are always Walmarts and other supermarkets with plenty of salads, fruits, and wholesome meals available. If a free person eats junk food, it's almost always their choice, particularly because many don't even want to prepare their own food. Either they want a "party in their mouth" every time they eat or they are flat out too lazy to cut fruit, too lazy to assemble dishes, and if available, too lazy to wash produce and too lazy to cook! There are 24 hours in a day, don't give me the "I have no time" excuse.

Do you have any idea what some of these priests' schedules are like, especially on the weekends?  They barely have time to choke down a sandwich.  It has nothing to do with being "too lazy to cook".
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 19, 2020, 06:01:46 PM
I don't understand the point of this thread. Are you the same genius who started the other thread about how much priests drink? Now it's how much they eat? What business is any of this of yours? Honestly people ... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Matto on January 19, 2020, 08:38:17 PM
Yes, I think it would be good if priests would be skinny as a good example to others. I understand now that I am older that it is easy to gain weight without even overeating. So though it would be nice if priests were perfect and skinny, I just heard about another traditional Catholic priest who raped a twelve year old boy multiple times, so I am happy that as far as I know my current pastor seems like a good guy who is willing to go out on sick calls, who is merely twenty pounds overweight.
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: poche on January 19, 2020, 11:26:36 PM
The true virtue is what kind of a person you are rather than whether you are a fat or skinny person. What good would it do you if you have the "perfect weight" and still go to hell?
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 20, 2020, 12:01:48 AM
The true virtue is what kind of a person you are rather than whether you are a fat or skinny person. What good would it do you if you have the "perfect weight" and still go to hell?
But if you are fat because of Gluttony and Sloth, you go Hell, no?
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 20, 2020, 05:08:59 AM
This is a seriously stupid post.
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 20, 2020, 07:34:41 AM
But if you are fat because of Gluttony and Sloth, you go Hell, no?

No, it's not a mortal sin to be fat because of gluttony and sloth.  It COULD be a mortal sin if one neglects his duties of state from sloth, but just getting fat?  Hardly a mortal sin.
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 20, 2020, 07:48:11 AM
I understand your point but some say St Thomas Aquinas as well as St Theresa of Avila were a bit “round”.  St Padre Pio as well as some Friars at San Giovanni developed a belly in their later years.

We shouldn’t judge a book by its cover.  Father Feelgood with the large belly, nice car and confey rectory may carry a heavier cross than you can imagine.
It's perfectly normal to put on a bit of a belly in middle age. That's not to say that it's fine to be obese, but this jumping to conclusions that everyone with extra pounds is a glutton is silly. 
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 20, 2020, 02:13:59 PM
This is the dumbest thread of cathinfo’s history.  
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: ByzCat3000 on January 20, 2020, 06:55:30 PM
Its dumb that this thread is anonymous 
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: poche on January 21, 2020, 12:56:34 AM
But if you are fat because of Gluttony and Sloth, you go Hell, no?
Worship of your stomach is a sin also and you are in danger of going to Hell.
Title: Re: Not all priests gain weight
Post by: Änσnymσus on January 21, 2020, 04:27:29 AM
This is the dumbest thread of cathinfo’s history.  
We should give out an award!