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« on: June 17, 2016, 12:33:58 AM »
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  • Erlkönig by Goethe

    Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind?
    Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind;
    Er hat den Knaben wohl in dem Arm,
    Er faßt ihn sicher, er hält ihn warm.

    "Mein Sohn, was birgst du so bang dein Gesicht?" –
    "Siehst, Vater, du den Erlkönig nicht?
    Den Erlenkönig mit Kron und Schweif?" –
    "Mein Sohn, es ist ein Nebelstreif."

    "Du liebes Kind, komm, geh mit mir!
    Gar schöne Spiele spiel' ich mit dir;
    Manch' bunte Blumen sind an dem Strand,
    Meine Mutter hat manch gülden Gewand." –

    "Mein Vater, mein Vater, und hörest du nicht,
    Was Erlenkönig mir leise verspricht?" –
    "Sei ruhig, bleibe ruhig, mein Kind;
    In dürren Blättern säuselt der Wind." –

    "Willst, feiner Knabe, du mit mir gehn?
    Meine Töchter sollen dich warten schön;
    Meine Töchter führen den nächtlichen Reihn,
    Und wiegen und tanzen und singen dich ein." –

    "Mein Vater, mein Vater, und siehst du nicht dort
    Erlkönigs Töchter am düstern Ort?" –
    "Mein Sohn, mein Sohn, ich seh' es genau:
    Es scheinen die alten Weiden so grau. –"

    "Ich liebe dich, mich reizt deine schöne Gestalt;
    Und bist du nicht willig, so brauch' ich Gewalt." –
    "Mein Vater, mein Vater, jetzt faßt er mich an!
    Erlkönig hat mir ein Leids getan!" –

    Dem Vater grauset's, er reitet geschwind,
    Er hält in Armen das ächzende Kind,
    Erreicht den Hof mit Müh' und Not;
    In seinen Armen das Kind war tot.

    English:

    Who rides, so late, through night and wind?
    It is the father with his child.
    He has the boy well in his arm
    He holds him safely, he keeps him warm.

    "My son, why do you hide your face in fear?"
    "Father, do you not see the Elf-king?
    The Elf-king with crown and cape?"
    "My son, it's a streak of fog."

    "You dear child, come, go with me!
    (Very) beautiful games I play with you;
    many a colorful flower is on the beach,
    My mother has many a golden robe."

    "My father, my father, and hearest you not,
    What the Elf-king quietly promises me?"
    "Be calm, stay calm, my child;
    Through scrawny leaves the wind is sighing."

    "Do you, fine boy, want to go with me?
    My daughters shall wait on you finely;
    My daughters lead the nightly dance,
    And rock and dance and sing to bring you in."

    "My father, my father, and don't you see there
    The Elf-king's daughters in the gloomy place?"
    "My son, my son, I see it clearly:
    There shimmer the old willows so grey."

    "I love you, your beautiful form entices me;
    And if you're not willing, then I will use force."
    "My father, my father, he's touching me now!
    The Elf-king has done me harm!"

    It horrifies the father; he swiftly rides on,
    He holds the moaning child in his arms,
    Reaches the farm with great difficulty;
    In his arms, the child was dead.


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    Not a stupid poem
    « Reply #1 on: June 17, 2016, 12:58:20 AM »
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  • What a sick story that is. So a father rides out with his son on horseback, and sodomizes him, resulting in the child's death?
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    « Reply #2 on: June 18, 2016, 08:32:07 PM »
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  • Something wicked this way comes!

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    « Reply #3 on: June 18, 2016, 08:36:10 PM »
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    « Reply #4 on: June 21, 2016, 06:58:47 AM »
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  • Maybe this person had this encounter with his father and it killed him spiritually.  He is now owning up to it and facing head on rather than being in denial about it.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 21, 2016, 06:54:46 PM »
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  • You people do realize who Goethe was, right?

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    « Reply #6 on: June 22, 2016, 08:15:15 AM »
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  • Quote from: Lighthouse
    You people do realize who Goethe was, right?


    No.  Who was he?

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    « Reply #7 on: June 22, 2016, 11:51:35 AM »
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    Quote from: Lighthouse
    You people do realize who Goethe was, right?


    No.  Who was he?


    From Wikipedia's entry for Goethe:

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    Eroticism
    Many of Goethe's works, especially Faust, the Roman Elegies, and the Venetian Epigrams, depict erotic passions and acts. For instance, in Faust, the first use of Faust's power after literally signing a contract with the devil is to fall in love with and impregnate a teenage girl. Some of the Venetian Epigrams were held back from publication due to their sɛҳuąƖ content. Goethe clearly saw human sɛҳuąƖity as a topic worthy of poetic and artistic depiction, an idea that was uncommon in a time when the private nature of sɛҳuąƖity was rigorously normative.[48]

    Goethe wrote of both boys and girls: “I like boys a lot, but the girls are even nicer. If I tire of her as a girl, she’ll play the boy for me as well” (Goethe, 1884).[49] Goethe also defended pederasty: "Pederasty is as old as humanity itself, and one can therefore say that it is natural, that it resides in nature, even if it proceeds against nature. What culture has won from nature will not be surrendered or given up at any price."[50]


    Ergo, to answer your question concisely, "a sick puppy".


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    « Reply #8 on: June 22, 2016, 12:13:50 PM »
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    Quote from: Guest
    Quote from: Lighthouse
    You people do realize who Goethe was, right?


    No.  Who was he?


    From Wikipedia's entry for Goethe:

    Quote
    Eroticism
    Many of Goethe's works, especially Faust, the Roman Elegies, and the Venetian Epigrams, depict erotic passions and acts. For instance, in Faust, the first use of Faust's power after literally signing a contract with the devil is to fall in love with and impregnate a teenage girl. Some of the Venetian Epigrams were held back from publication due to their sɛҳuąƖ content. Goethe clearly saw human sɛҳuąƖity as a topic worthy of poetic and artistic depiction, an idea that was uncommon in a time when the private nature of sɛҳuąƖity was rigorously normative.[48]

    Goethe wrote of both boys and girls: “I like boys a lot, but the girls are even nicer. If I tire of her as a girl, she’ll play the boy for me as well” (Goethe, 1884).[49] Goethe also defended pederasty: "Pederasty is as old as humanity itself, and one can therefore say that it is natural, that it resides in nature, even if it proceeds against nature. What culture has won from nature will not be surrendered or given up at any price."[50]


    Ergo, to answer your question concisely, "a sick puppy".


    Thank you.  That sounds like an accurate description.