You should worry more about if God has predestined you for salvation.We are not Jansenists.
You should worry more about if God has predestined you for salvation.He said he was a Catholic, not a Calvanist. Only Calvinists worry about predestination because they do not know the doctrine. God does not predestine anyone for hell or heaven, He just knows what the end will be, "for He has already seen the movie".
I read a passage in the Bible where it states if you repent of your ways and turn back to your own ways, there will be no more forgiveness left for you from heaven.
Can't tell you how many times I've been back and forth with my faith.
I guess st john vianney talks about the sins God no longer continues to pardon
How do i escape this despair? I feel like there's no hope. Lived most of my life with the way of the world... My own stupid fault
He said he was a Catholic, not a Calvanist. Only Calvinists worry about predestination because they do not know the doctrine. God does not predestine anyone for hell or heaven, He just knows what the end will be, "for He has already seen the movie".I wrote that.
"Before all decision to create the world, the infinite knowledge of God presents to Him all the graces, and different series of graces, which He can prepare for each soul, along with the consent or refusal which would follow in each circuмstance, and that in millions of possible combinations ... Thus, for each man in particular there are in the thought of God, limitless possible histories, some histories of virtue and salvation, others of crime and damnation; and God will be free in choosing such a world, such a series of graces, and in determining the future history and final destiny of each soul. And this is precisely what He does when among all possible worlds, by an absolutely free act, he decides to realize the actual world with all the circuмstances of its historic evolutions, with all the graces which in fact have been and will be distributed until the end of the world, and consequently with all the elect and all the reprobate who God foresaw would be in it if de facto He created it." [The Catholic Encyclopedia Appleton, 1909, on Augustine, pg 97]
He said he was a Catholic, not a Calvanist. Only Calvinists worry about predestination because they do not know the doctrine. God does not predestine anyone for hell or heaven, He just knows what the end will be, "for He has already seen the movie".I wrote that, twice!
"Before all decision to create the world, the infinite knowledge of God presents to Him all the graces, and different series of graces, which He can prepare for each soul, along with the consent or refusal which would follow in each circuмstance, and that in millions of possible combinations ... Thus, for each man in particular there are in the thought of God, limitless possible histories, some histories of virtue and salvation, others of crime and damnation; and God will be free in choosing such a world, such a series of graces, and in determining the future history and final destiny of each soul. And this is precisely what He does when among all possible worlds, by an absolutely free act, he decides to realize the actual world with all the circuмstances of its historic evolutions, with all the graces which in fact have been and will be distributed until the end of the world, and consequently with all the elect and all the reprobate who God foresaw would be in it if de facto He created it." [The Catholic Encyclopedia Appleton, 1909, on Augustine, pg 97]
He said he was a Catholic, not a Calvanist. Only Calvinists worry about predestination because they do not know the doctrine. God does not predestine anyone for hell or heaven, He just knows what the end will be, "for He has already seen the movie".
"Before all decision to create the world, the infinite knowledge of God presents to Him all the graces, and different series of graces, which He can prepare for each soul, along with the consent or refusal which would follow in each circuмstance, and that in millions of possible combinations ... Thus, for each man in particular there are in the thought of God, limitless possible histories, some histories of virtue and salvation, others of crime and damnation; and God will be free in choosing such a world, such a series of graces, and in determining the future history and final destiny of each soul. And this is precisely what He does when among all possible worlds, by an absolutely free act, he decides to realize the actual world with all the circuмstances of its historic evolutions, with all the graces which in fact have been and will be distributed until the end of the world, and consequently with all the elect and all the reprobate who God foresaw would be in it if de facto He created it." [The Catholic Encyclopedia Appleton, 1909, on Augustine, pg 97]
God does not predestine anyone for hell or heaven, He just knows what the end will be, "for He has already seen the movie".Keep telling yourself that and be sure to say "God was not the sole reason why I am here" if you reach heaven.
Predestination is a Catholic teaching.Not in the way you explained it:
You should worry more about if God has predestined you for salvation.
Not in the way you explained it:I was in no way referring to double predestination if you had assumed that.(https://www.cathinfo.com/anonymous-posts-allowed/no-more-mercy-left-from-heaven/5/?action=reporttm;msg=673994)
So he withdraws the grace? Not very reassuring but if that's the case ..
Predestination is a Catholic teaching. God is free to predestine some to eternal glory and withhold His grace from others leaving them in their sins without consideration of foreseen merit.Predestination in the sense that some souls are predestined for Heaven is Catholic teaching. However, those souls are very few, and the Church DOES NOT teach that any souls are predestined for Hell. So the matter of whether or not your souls is predestined for Heaven is not something you should worry about, you almost certainly aren't - but you still can go to Heaven.
"I answer that, God does reprobate some. For it was said above (Article 1) that predestination is a part of providence. To providence, however, it belongs to permit certain defects in those things which are subject to providence, as was said above (Question 22, Article 2). Thus, as men are ordained to eternal life through the providence of God, it likewise is part of that providence to permit some to fall away from that end; this is called reprobation. Thus, as predestination is a part of providence, in regard to those ordained to eternal salvation, so reprobation is a part of providence in regard to those who turn aside from that end. Hence reprobation implies not only foreknowledge, but also something more, as does providence, as was said above (Question 22, Article 1). Therefore, as predestination includes the will to confer grace and glory; so also reprobation includes the will to permit a person to fall into sin, and to impose the punishment of damnation on account of that sin." ST I, q. 23, a. 3
"God wills to manifest His goodness in men; in respect to those whom He predestines, by means of His mercy, as sparing them; and in respect of others, whom he reprobates, by means of His justice, in punishing them. This is the reason why God elects some and rejects others. To this the Apostle refers, saying (Romans ix., 22-23): "What if God, willing to show His wrath [that is, the vengeance of His justice], and to make His power known, endured [that is, permitted] with much patience vessels of wrath, fitted for destruction; that He might show the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He hath prepared unto glory" and (2 Timothy ii., 20): "But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver; but also of wood and of earth; and some, indeed, unto honor, but some unto dishonor." Yet why He chooses some for glory, and reprobates others, has no reason, except the divine will. Whence Augustine says (Tract. xxvi. in Joan.): "Why He draws one, and another He draws not, seek not to judge, if thou dost not wish to err." ST I, q. 23, a. 5, ad 3
I was in no way referring to double predestination if you had assumed that.
Predestination in the sense that some souls are predestined for Heaven is Catholic teaching. However, those souls are very few, and the Church DOES NOT teach that any souls are predestined for Hell. So the matter of whether or not your souls is predestined for Heaven is not something you should worry about, you almost certainly aren't - but you still can go to Heaven.
Bishop Sanborn has an excellent sermon (http://www.traditionalcatholicsermons.org/wordpress/audio/?link=http://traditionalcatholicsermons.org/BishopSanbornSermonArchive/BpSan_Predestination_02-12-95_1277.mp3) on the Catholic teaching of predestination. He makes it clear that all of the souls in heaven were predestined and elected by God without any consideration of foreseen merits. He says it is impossible to enter heaven unless a soul has been predestined for glory. He explicitly mentions Romans ix., 15 "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will shew mercy to whom I will shew mercy."If every soul in Heaven was predestined for it, then logically every soul in Hell must have been predestined for it.
Of course no souls are actively predestined for hell, but to say that a soul can enter heaven without being elected is Pelagianism.
Bishop Sanborn has an excellent sermon (http://www.traditionalcatholicsermons.org/wordpress/audio/?link=http://traditionalcatholicsermons.org/BishopSanbornSermonArchive/BpSan_Predestination_02-12-95_1277.mp3) on the Catholic teaching of predestination. He makes it clear that all of the souls in heaven were predestined and elected by God without any consideration of foreseen merits. He says it is impossible to enter heaven unless a soul has been predestined for glory. He explicitly mentions Romans ix., 15 "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will shew mercy to whom I will shew mercy."The poster misinterprets what Bp. Sanborn said, just like he misinterprets everything else he posted on the subject. Just like he misinterpreted something into his thinking that someone said that "a soul can enter heaven without being elected". No one said that a soul can enter heaven without being elected.
Of course no souls are actively predestined for hell, but to say that a soul can enter heaven without being elected is Pelagianism.
I read a passage in the Bible where it states if you repent of your ways and turn back to your own ways, there will be no more forgiveness left for you from heaven.I can’t tell you how many times I’ve fallen....
Can't tell you how many times I've been back and forth with my faith.
I guess st john vianney talks about the sins God no longer continues to pardon
How do i escape this despair? I feel like there's no hope. Lived most of my life with the way of the world... My own stupid fault