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Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 24, 2025, 07:59:42 PM
    Sure, so he got the language wrong.  You can't necessarily extrapolate from that and claim that Nick who may not know his traditional Catholic Faith as well as perhaps you do had him completely skip purgatory, that is if he even made it to purgatory in the first place as opposed to hell.  The fact remains you should not have used quotation marks.

    Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 24, 2025, 07:33:16 PM
    I listened at your time stamp and never heard him say, "Charlie Kirk is in heaven."  As a professed Catholic he knows about purgatory.  What I heard him talking about was Kirk facing God at the time of his personal judgement.

    Fuentes is a Novus Ordoite, it's a given that he believes non-Catholics can be saved. Doesn't matter if he meant Kirk is in purgatory or already enjoying the Beatific Vision..He is saying Kirk is saved either way, and it's a denial of EENS.
    Fuentes is not a "trad" Catholic. He does not claim to attend the Latin Mass and has more or less mocked trads on numerous occasions
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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
    « Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 05:20:33 AM »
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    • Never heard of Nick Fuentes except on CI. What reason do we have to even know, or listen to him at all?  
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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
    « Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 08:10:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on Yesterday at 05:17:21 AM
    Fuentes is a Novus Ordoite, it's a given that he believes non-Catholics can be saved. Doesn't matter if he meant Kirk is in purgatory or already enjoying the Beatific Vision..He is saying Kirk is saved either way, and it's a denial of EENS.
    Fuentes is not a "trad" Catholic. He does not claim to attend the Latin Mass and has more or less mocked trads on numerous occasions

    He even mocked the Holy Ghost for choosing Our Lady.


    https://www.bitchute.com/video/un7GkLIO2Bcb
    Go to 2:41 to hear this outrage.

    "What reason do we have to even know, or listen to him at all? "

    He's a piece of garbage.  We should pray for him, but not listen to him. 
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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
    « Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 10:21:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Yesterday at 08:10:44 AM
    He even mocked the Holy Ghost for choosing Our Lady.


    https://www.bitchute.com/video/un7GkLIO2Bcb
    Go to 2:41 to hear this outrage.

    "What reason do we have to even know, or listen to him at all? "

    He's a piece of garbage.  We should pray for him, but not listen to him.

    You are absolutely grasping at straws.  You see dirt where there is none.  Listen to it for yourself, people. He was not mocking the Holy Ghost at all for choosing Our Lady. 

     Why don't you pray for yourself instead of exhibiting along with Owen Benjamin (an individual of Jєωιѕн descent and who is on record as claiming that the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki never happened) Fuentes Derangement Syndrome?

    Truly amazing that you would pick a guy like Owen Benjamin to try to critique Fuentes.  Here is some of his docuмented commentary regarding Catholic beliefs: 
    • “The Trinity is bull****.” Culture Wars
    • “The Trinity was invented 300 years after Jesus, with the help of the grabblers” (i.e. Jews). Culture Wars
    • “The Trinity is heathenism” (which he says he loves!) Culture Wars
    • Catholics think “the Trinity is a three-headed Dungeons and Dragons god.” Culture Wars
    • “Saying there are three Gods but there’s only one God is magical nonsense that makes you retarded.” Culture Wars
    • “Jesus allegedly died” (another notion no doubt influenced by his Muslim admirers). Culture Wars
    • “God isn’t a mystery.” Culture Wars
    • “Don’t pretend to be a monotheist when you’re not.” Culture Wars

    And here's a clip of the individual with a known hatred of Fuentes who tries to drag him down: 



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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
    « Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 10:34:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Yesterday at 08:10:44 AM
    ...He's a piece of ...  We should pray for him, but not listen to him.


    Ok, let's pray for him...We will have to render account for every word we speak, idle words esp.
    This guy is imagining theology as he thinks it should be...let's call him a small c catholic.
    Repeating the "F" word is not even close to holiness -  stay clear from dis dude.
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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
    « Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 01:53:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Yesterday at 05:20:33 AM
    Never heard of Nick Fuentes except on CI. What reason do we have to even know, or listen to him at all? 
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    Me neither until a few days ago when someone posted something else about him on here. To answer your question, no, I don't think there is any reason to pay any attention to him.

    I watched a few videos of Fuentes, and I have to say the guy gives me the creeps. I guess it was a selection that was chosen to give someone that impression, but he seems astonishingly arrogant and says a lot of things that a decent person would never dream of saying. Even a basically decent pagan.

    The worst video was a clip of him saying "jokingly" that he wants everyone to take the "pledge", and he said something like, " I want everyone to raise their right hand right now and say, 'I pledge that I will kill, rape and die for Nick Fuentes,' and repeated it several times."

    No decent human being would ever make a "joke" like that in front of anyone, much less in public. 

    By the way, why is this thread anonymous?
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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
    « Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 02:30:55 PM »
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    • I think Fuentes is earnest in his faith but has yet to be trad-pilled.  He’s spoken positively about Barron, divorces the Gospel from politics but is unfamiliar with Fr Coughlin.  What sets him apart for me is his elemental understanding of the Jews - not just some subset of zionism or Israel, etc but their true character and identity as demonstrated in scripture.  For the most part his proselytizing is dead-on orthodox with the occasional NO novelties.  Not so bad given his youth
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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Yesterday at 02:30:55 PM
    For the most part his proselytizing is dead-on orthodox with the occasional NO novelties.
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    :facepalm:

    And his statement that Charlie Kirk is seeing the beatific vision is "dead-on orthodox"?! :facepalm:
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    « Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 03:52:48 PM »
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    • I don't listen to Nick Fuentes because Scott Roberts is a million times better. Roberts has also been truth-pilling publicly for much longer (since 2007). 
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    • Traditional Catholics can do a LOT better than Nick Fuentes. And that's a huge understatement!
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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
    « Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 05:24:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Yesterday at 03:52:48 PM
    I don't listen to Nick Fuentes because Scott Roberts is a million times better. Roberts has also been truth-pilling publicly for much longer (since 2007).

    (4) The Overton Protocol or: - by Lucas Scott Roberts

    The Observing Will Continue
    The Observing Will Continue

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    The Overton Protocol or:
    How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Groypers
    May 09, 2024

    Have you heard the news? Nick Fuentes is back on Twitter.

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    Who is Nick Fuentes, you ask? He’s single handedly turning all of the disenfranchised white young men into toxic anti semitic nαzι fascists. What’s worse, he claims to be a Christian! Why would Elon let such a vile, hateful individual back on his app? But more importantly, what are we as Christians going to do about it?
    Friends, I have the perfect solution. We should immediately do…

    …absolutely nothing.

    Let me set some expectations for this piece:
    • This is not a Nick Fuentes/Groyper apologetics work. I have never watched a full Nick Fuentes stream. I cannot and will not speak to what he’s said or done.
    • This is not a theological or pastoral paper. Even if I cared to look up and verify the veracity of the claims against Fuentes and his ilk I wouldn’t bother. It’s not my job to judge the state of their souls, and neither is it yours.
    • This is strictly a piece on what the Christian response should be to Groyper inquiries that come from outside parties. Nothing more, nothing less.
    The proper Christian response about Groypers is nothing. Seriously, what explanation do we owe, and to whom do we owe this worthless shibboleth? How many lefty points do I earn if I anathematize Nick with my ecclesiastical power as a layperson? Will pagans be more receptive to pro life arguments if I offer Groypers as a political scapegoat?

    If anything, playing the left’s cancel culture game costs more lives then it saves.

    Think about it; by throwing fascists to left leaning wolves you’re actually capitulating to the left’s larger point; it’s the right who contains society’s most dangerous degenerates. Politically speaking it’s also an incredibly stupid waste of resources. Instead of assembling our forces to combat the left we’re instead militarizing our own tone police to monitor and censor ourselves. We’re enabling the very evil we feign disgust over by our nαzι-bashing virtue signalling. While we’re busy making sure our i’s are dotted and our t’s are crossed, the left continues to metastasize their corrosive ideology that’s blessed our country with, among other things, mail to order abortions and confidential gender transitions at your local public school.

    Lucas, I don’t hate on Groypers because it’s trendy or to appease the left. I hate Groypers because they are evil, and as a Christian I oppose evil wherever evil rears it’s ugly head. It’s not a left/right thing, all evil should be opposed!

    You’re full of crap. Let’s do a compare and contrast, shall we? Nick Fuentes claims to be a Catholic. Joe Biden claims to be a Catholic. Joe Biden is pro-choice, a public stance that Catholics do not and have never supported. Do you spend an equal amount of time hating Joe Biden in proportion to your hatred of Nick Fuentes?

    Further, which of these bastions of evil are posed to do the the larger amount of damage to our society? Joe Biden is the president of the United States who actively uses his political clout to goad Americans into overturning the overturning of Roe Vs. Wade and establishing the divine right of undergoing irreversible physical and chemical alterations to our genders, age of reason be damned!

    Nick Fuentes is a streamer who couldn’t even use his political power to stay on Kanye West’s 2024 presidential campaign.
    It would be one thing if Nick Fuentes was the chair of the American Catholic nαzι Party. He’s not. He has no political power to enact harmful laws to you, your family or your neighbors. Joe Biden on the other hand…

    And yet, who do we spend more time demonizing? I cannot stress this enough; going after Groypers not only doesn’t accomplish anything, it' actually helps clear the way for the left to continue codifying degeneracy into inalienable rights. The left wants to murder the unborn children. The left wants to create a lucrative cottage industry around the mutilation of confused teenagers. And they’re winning.
    Ok Lucas, for the sake of argument I’ll concede that I shouldn’t fret as much about Groypers, or that I should at least match my energy for hating the left that I do hating the Groypers. But I still don’t understand why we should ignore them. Are you really saying we should just pretend Groypers don’t exist?

    Absolutely we should pretend they don’t exist, and here’s why. Groypers will shift the Overton Window back to the right.
    What is the Overton Window? Well, the left hates it, which is all you need to know in regards to it’s virility.

    Put simply, it’s the idea that political opinions get shifted on the fringe. After decades of activists pushing gαy marriage to be legalized it did, in fact, become legalized. This tectonic shift in public opinion didn’t just make the left more left, it actually brought Conservatives over to the left in support of gαy marriage. The window in regards to acceptable opinions that you can comfortably express publicly has shifted so far to the left that if you oppose gαy marriage you’ll be ostracized by everyone, left and right.

    This in spite of the fact the the Leftist Establishment waited UNTIL gαy marriage became popular before giving their blessing.

    The left does not police their extremists and it pays dividends.

    Can Groypers offer the same free service to the right? In many ways they already have.

    Have you noticed the large shift in public opinion regarding Israel on the right? The left has historically held mixed feelings about Palestine, but the right has always been staunchly pro-Israel. There’s now a sharp division on the right regarding Israel. This younger generation of conservatives are less enthralled by our “strongest middle eastern ally”, and are publicly expressing concern over Israel’s tactics in regards to the Gazan occupation. You can oppose Israeli policy and still hold on to your conservative bonafides today, something that would have ostracized you not even 10 years ago. This is a benefit that you enjoy solely because of Groypers. Yes, those nasty, vile Groypers helped shift the Overton Window on acceptable opinions that you can express about Israel. This option that’s now afforded to Conservatives came at no cost to Conservatives. It came solely through the free, open source sharing of unacceptable opinions by Groypers. Through their Groypering, the unacceptable became acceptable.

    Who knows, maybe one day we’ll be able to express with greater conviction that “reproductive rights” are anti-human. We’ll be able to say without fear of reprisal that parents who subject their children to irreversible gender transitions are monsters. As former president Barack Obama said, a “shift in hearts and minds is possible”.

    Thanks to the Overton Protocol, I have learned to stop worrying and love the Groypers. So should you, dear Christian.

    Blessed are the Groypers, for they shall shift the Overton Window.



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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
    « Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 10:06:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Today at 02:30:55 PM
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    For the most part his proselytizing is dead-on orthodox with the occasional NO novelties.

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    :facepalm: title=facepalm

    And his statement that Charlie Kirk is seeing the beatific vision is "dead-on orthodox"?! :facepalm: title=facepalm






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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 24, 2025, 07:49:31 PM
    He literally said Kirky met God in the “beatific vision”
    He probably meant to say "at his particular judgment", but he should've known the difference.
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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
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    • Quote from: Geremia on Yesterday at 11:36:07 PM
    He probably meant to say "at his particular judgment", but he should've known the difference.

    I would find either explanation to be plausible, that he has no clue what the beatific vision is or that he literally meant that Kirk is already in Heaven -- and neither one speaks well of him, the former entailing crass ignorance of even the basics of the Catholic faith that he claims to be devoted to, that latter a Bergoglian-Wojtylan heretical view of salvation rooted in complete religious indifferentism.
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