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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Yesterday at 01:45:38 AM
     it, but that didn't stop them from being holy Catholics.

    Very shortly after Fuentes uses that term he's talking about Kirk coming "face to face" with God.  If that's all that he said I don't think people would be jumping up and down trying to claim that implied that he was in heaven since so many Catholics, for better of for worse, simply equate that with the particular judgement.  He is on record as saying there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church so he obviously knows that dogma.  So the business of assuming that he meant Kirk who he knew was not a Catholic was in heaven is just bunk.

    P.S. Fuentes is a self-described Catholic integralist who identifies with the traditionalist Catholic movement.  Those who continue to endlessly harp on this forum and other venues about him being NO don't accomplish much more than their own echo chamber harping.  It seems like you never hear them offering any evidence of what specific parish or chapel he goes to or whether he goes at all.  All we seem to hear is the blanket gratuitous assertion/mantra that he is NO.
    :facepalm: you sound like a Fuentes fanboy. Lad is right in his opinions, either Fuentes is ignorant or he was saying Kirk was in heaven.
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    « Reply #31 on: Yesterday at 04:43:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on Yesterday at 02:37:59 AM
    :facepalm: you sound like a Fuentes fanboy. Lad is right in his opinions, either Fuentes is ignorant or he was saying Kirk was in heaven.

    Silly 5th grader schoolyard name calling.  Surely, you can do better than that.  Or, on the other hand, maybe you can't.
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    P.S. Fuentes is a self-described Catholic integralist who identifies with the traditionalist Catholic movement.  Those who continue to endlessly harp on this forum and other venues about him being NO don't accomplish much more than their own echo chamber harping.  It seems like you never hear them offering any evidence of what specific parish or chapel he goes to or whether he goes at all.  All we seem to hear is the blanket gratuitous assertion/mantra that he is NO.





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    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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    I posted earlier: "Never heard of Nick Fuentes except on CI. What reason do we have to even know, or listen to him at all?"   

    I watched about a minute of the top video, which is all I will ever watch of him. I can see I did not miss anything. Thank you WorldsAway.  
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    Thanks Worlds Away for your contribution of the 4 short clips.  It adds some good substantive light to the thread rather than grossly distorted overstatements and catty/petty name calling.  (On a side personal note, thanks for introducing me to https://catbox.moe/, the 100% free public file host.  I may use it someday.)

    BTW, compliments to you on the beautiful image you have chosen of Our Lady of Czestochowa Black Madonna and Child Jesus icon.  Aside from its beauty, the history behind it is not only very fascinating, but truly inspiring in the best of all traditional Catholic sense.  Finally, another sincere compliment for your well-chosen Sacred Scripture passage on the bottom of your posts: "John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."  I suspect it is one, that Fuentes with whatever failings he may have, is well aware of.

    I think what your clips are evidence of is the ambivalent feelings and beliefs Fuentes has concerning a good number of tradCats and their often self-styled brand of Catholicism.  It appears that he clearly and openly recognizes the goodness of traditional Catholicism but is rather leery of being pulled into it hook line and sinker because he sees so much hypocrisy and even role playing in the tradCat world.  At its worst it can even come off as some sort of closed off self-admiration society. 

     It appears to me that Fuentes is much more of the E. Michael Jones' "obedience -- first and foremost" kind of persuasion in his approach to the faith than the sad, but true holier than thou self-righteous pharisaical public face of a lot of trad Catholicism.  Hopefully, he will get beyond all this and embrace tradCatholicism in spite of its quite ugly hypocritical and scandal ridden side, some of which is obviously displayed on CathInfo and other tradCat sites on a daily basis, not to mention in everyday life.  

    In the meantime, I am not about to throw him under the bus.  (It's been a long journey for perhaps not a few of us, some not just from NO to tradCat, but from fallen away and apostate to NO to tradCat.  Nick, a cradle Catholic, has apparently never fallen away or at least never completely fallen away, from the faith.  That in and of itself is a great blessing that not all of us can claim.  I hope we can offer a prayer for him (as well as E. Michael Jones) rather than simply disparage/dismiss him in a way not befitting of a Catholic.

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    Re: Nick Fuentes: ‘Charlie Kirk is in Heaven’
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    Thank you, Worlds Away. Since Nick Fuentes says in this video that he would rather commit ѕυιcιdє than put on a tie and go to the traditional Latin Mass on Sunday, can we just lose this ridiculous assertion that Nick Fuentes is "trad" in any sense of the term?
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    In the second video Nick says, "I prefer Novus Ordo because I support the Catholic Church. All this trad schismatic stuff, I'm not with it, okay? I support the pope."

    So, no, Nick is not a trad.

    Are we done here?
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    In the second video Nick says, "I prefer Novus Ordo because I support the Catholic Church. All this trad schismatic stuff, I'm not with it, okay? I support the pope."

    So, no, Nick is not a trad.

    Are we done here?

    “In the evening of life, we will be judged on love alone.” St. John of the Cross (“A la tarde te examinarán en el amor; aprende a amar como Dios quiere ser amado y deja tu condición.”)

    (I think some of us may be in for a great surprise when we go before Almighty God at our Particular Judgement.  "But Lord, Lord I was a good trad not like those Novus Ordo"  cf. Matt. 7:21-23, Luke 18: 9-14





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    “In the evening of life, we will be judged on love alone.” St. John of the Cross (“A la tarde te examinarán en el amor; aprende a amar como Dios quiere ser amado y deja tu condición.”)

    (I think some of us may be in for a great surprise when we go before Almighty God at our Particular Judgement.  "But Lord, Lord I was a good trad not like those Novus Ordo"  cf. Matt. 7:21-23, Luke 18: 9-14
    Vatican 2 is a false religion
    Novus ordo mass is sacrilegious
    The new priest are doubtful so they have no sacramental power
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